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Joe Biden 2024
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« on: December 11, 2019, 10:24:26 AM »

Right wingers always have historically chosen fascism even against the most milquetoast leftists (just see them voting for Nazi Bolsonaro over Blairite Haddad in Brazil). Not worth it, you'll get 5 of them to vote for Joe Biden and no one else.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Fascism is a left-wing ideology. (And I don't care about the bull-#### definition from Wikipedia.) Mussolini was a communist and accepted fascism for practical purposes, but was still ideologically far left. Just because Hitler attacked communist Stalin does not make him right wing. The Democrats have always been more aligned with these ideologies than Republicans.

Three main ideologies that make up the Democrat party. (All the conservatives have been purged from the party years ago.)

Fascism is an authoritarian government controlling business. Therefore every time a new regulation is created or a new oversight division is added, that makes the government more fascist. Donald Trump's elimination of regulations and weakening of cabinet administrative powers is the opposite of fascism. Democrats have always pushed for more regulations which makes them more fascist. (along with some of George W. Bush's policies sadly) This includes people like Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

Communism is an authoritarian government controlling peoples well-being and livelihood. Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez policies, for instance. Nobody on the right aligns with these policies.

Socialism and progressivism is the same as communism with one key difference. The communists are honest about what they are trying to achieve. The socialists try to mask it with doublespeak so as not to offend people's natural tendencies towards freedom. This would be someone like Elizabeth Warren.

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

These are the 14 characteristics of fascism. Tell me which of these describe Democrats.
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Joe Biden 2024
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2019, 10:58:16 AM »


https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

These are the 14 characteristics of fascism. Tell me which of these describe Democrats.

While I reject his premise that most of these are fascist, but rather totalitarianism (which is both left-wing and right-wing), I will take a bite from your list based on the current state of the parties:

Democrats - #2, #3, #6, #13, #14 for sure.
Republicans - #1, #4,
Both - #7, #8, #9
Neither - #5, #10, #11, #12



How do the Democrats disdain human rights?

What scapegoats do the Democrats have?

How do the Democrats control the media

What rampant cronyism and corruption occur under Democrats?

What fraudulent elections have occurred under the Democrats?
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Joe Biden 2024
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2019, 12:17:08 PM »


https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

These are the 14 characteristics of fascism. Tell me which of these describe Democrats.

While I reject his premise that most of these are fascist, but rather totalitarianism (which is both left-wing and right-wing), I will take a bite from your list based on the current state of the parties:

Democrats - #2, #3, #6, #13, #14 for sure.
Republicans - #1, #4,
Both - #7, #8, #9
Neither - #5, #10, #11, #12



By going after and attacking people for their religious beliefs; trying to force them to be punished if they do not go against their religious beliefs. Fortunately the Supreme Court at least recognizes this for now.

ie. Sisters of Mercy, Jack Phillips (baker)

Organizing boycotts of Christian businesses and organizations or businesses who donated to a conservative politician.

ie. Chick-Fil-A

Organizing campaigns to get people fired for having an opposing viewpoint.


Russia, any GOP politician, anyone wearing a MAGA hat, any black conservative spokesperson.


Pretty much every media outlet except for Fox News, talk radio and a few internet sites.

What rampant cronyism and corruption occur under Democrats?

Frenchrepublican already answered this.

What fraudulent elections have occurred under the Democrats?

Voter fraud - Opposing Real ID act, opposing removing dead people from voter roles, voting twice across precinct or state lines. Voter intimidation (Black Panthers, and going back in history, southern Democrats, KKK)

If all those things make Democrats fascist, then surely, you agree that, through the anti-Semetic and Islamophobic rhetoric, advocation of torture, proposed stripping US citizens of their rights, using Hispanics and Muslims as scapegoats, criticism of the free press, cronyism and corruption of the Trump administration, voter suppression, and voter fraud, that the GOP is fascist.
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