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« Reply #200 on: December 12, 2019, 05:23:44 PM »

Skynews say CON 46% LAB 32%
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« Reply #201 on: December 12, 2019, 05:24:08 PM »



Get ready to watch the north got Blue even as Esher and Walton goes orange lol.

Imagine if Boris wins an 86 seat majority and loses his seat.

The scenes, my God.
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« Reply #202 on: December 12, 2019, 05:24:18 PM »



Get ready to watch the north got Blue even as Esher and Walton goes orange lol.
Trends are global.
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« Reply #203 on: December 12, 2019, 05:24:25 PM »

Huh, the exit poll says Cities of London and Westminster is going to Labour.

I could see Chuka siphoning off enough of the Tory vote to make that happen, actually. Gordon Nardell will be a great addition to parliament.
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« Reply #204 on: December 12, 2019, 05:24:53 PM »



Labour getting ready to spread the blame.

The conservatives built an electoral coalition of remainers and leavers?

Picked up tons of Leavers, and their remainy southern shires preferred Tory Brexit to Corbyn's Socialism.
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« Reply #205 on: December 12, 2019, 05:25:01 PM »


If so, that's the best Tory vote share since 1959.
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« Reply #206 on: December 12, 2019, 05:25:12 PM »

Goodbye, United Kingdom of four countries.
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« Reply #207 on: December 12, 2019, 05:25:34 PM »

Tories will definitely govern for longer than they did under Thatcher and Major.

Yeah, well, that's, just, like, your opinion, man.

Welcome to the forum.

Tbh, the Conservatives would still be vulnerable in 2024, it is more that Corbyn has lost than Boris has won. They also campaigned on promises like an end to austerity and getting Brexit done that they are either unable or unwilling to achieve. Still, starting so far behind and such a grim result in Scotland makes it look very hard for Labour to win an outright majority in 2024, hung parliament then certainly possible. 5 grim years beforehand though, and this election should have been a Labour win, so it is really a tragic result.
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« Reply #208 on: December 12, 2019, 05:25:34 PM »

Where are you all seeing the exit poll details on a constituency level ?

I heard it on Sky News live feed. They said Dennis Skinner is probably out.
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« Reply #209 on: December 12, 2019, 05:26:01 PM »

Corbyn is not going away from the public consciousness. He's now the perfect scapegoat for all the bad that will come from Brexit, instead of, you know, the actual governing party. This has Dolchstoßlegende written all over it.
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« Reply #210 on: December 12, 2019, 05:26:25 PM »

Goodbye, United Kingdom of four countries.
Probably not. There isn't gonna be an Indyref 2 if the SNP isn't in government.
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« Reply #211 on: December 12, 2019, 05:26:44 PM »

Goodbye, United Kingdom of four countries.
Time for the US to invite Wales and Northern Ireland to the Union. Smiley
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« Reply #212 on: December 12, 2019, 05:28:22 PM »

BBC expects that Dudley North, formerly Labour, will go 58-37 Tory

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« Reply #213 on: December 12, 2019, 05:28:47 PM »

Interestingly BBC has Bridgend as a likely Tory gain, which was strange. Most models said it was too remainy.
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« Reply #214 on: December 12, 2019, 05:29:09 PM »
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Most models expected it though. Though there are seats where a 10% swing was required and wasn't projected to flip, and this may suggest seats in YouGov's likely catergory flip.
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« Reply #215 on: December 12, 2019, 05:29:16 PM »

Maybe Corbyn/LAB should have backed May's deal in retrospect.
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« Reply #216 on: December 12, 2019, 05:32:27 PM »

BBC expects that Dudley North, formerly Labour, will go 58-37 Tory

It was pretty much Safe Tory, given that not only it's a 0.1% Labour majority (it also swung 5.5% to the Tories in 2017), that alone means it flips, but it's also got a 71% Leave vote, and not only that but it's an open seat and even further the previous MP outright told people to vote for the Tories. The swing is interesting, and a 21% majority for the Tories is in line with a great result for them.
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« Reply #217 on: December 12, 2019, 05:32:28 PM »

Goodbye, United Kingdom of four countries.
Probably not. There isn't gonna be an Indyref 2 if the SNP isn't in government.
I imagine the Supreme Court will be deciding that issue, tbh, as it's legally untested as to whether the Scottish Government could call an independence referendum without the UK Government's consent. The Section 30 order for the 2014 referendum was only done to keep it out of the Supreme Court.
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« Reply #218 on: December 12, 2019, 05:32:57 PM »

Tories will definitely govern for longer than they did under Thatcher and Major.

Yeah, well, that's, just, like, your opinion, man.

Welcome to the forum.

Tbh, the Conservatives would still be vulnerable in 2024, it is more that Corbyn has lost than Boris has won. They also campaigned on promises like an end to austerity and getting Brexit done that they are either unable or unwilling to achieve. Still, starting so far behind and such a grim result in Scotland makes it look very hard for Labour to win an outright majority in 2024, hung parliament then certainly possible. 5 grim years beforehand though, and this election should have been a Labour win, so it is really a tragic result.

Labour would have to gain 130 seats to get even near to be a government; Blair did 145 in 1997, so it is not outside the realm of possibility. But Labour needs to pick the right leader.
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« Reply #219 on: December 12, 2019, 05:36:50 PM »

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« Reply #220 on: December 12, 2019, 05:36:50 PM »

Goodbye, United Kingdom of four countries.
Probably not. There isn't gonna be an Indyref 2 if the SNP isn't in government.

Oh, but it is. In Edinburgh.
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« Reply #221 on: December 12, 2019, 05:36:58 PM »

I’m not an expert on U.K. politics at all, so pardon my ignorance, but when I heard majority of 86 my jaw dropped. I’ve followed the campaign but haven’t read much recently. I didn’t expect such a large majority.
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« Reply #222 on: December 12, 2019, 05:37:24 PM »

Labour had been relatively safe from some of the broader political cleavages developing across Europe, but perhaps the erosion of a class based vote has finally caught up to them? Is the UK now doomed to a US/Europe style of politics along some sort of globalist/internationalist lines.
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« Reply #223 on: December 12, 2019, 05:37:59 PM »

Goodbye, United Kingdom of four countries.
Probably not. There isn't gonna be an Indyref 2 if the SNP isn't in government.

Oh, but it is. In Edinburgh.

And Boris will tell them to F off when Sturegon asks for Indyref2. He knows the data. So Sturgeon will likely do something rash and then... well...

More likely a Catalonia situation develops rather than a new nation.
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« Reply #224 on: December 12, 2019, 05:39:49 PM »

Tories will definitely govern for longer than they did under Thatcher and Major.

Yeah, well, that's, just, like, your opinion, man.

Welcome to the forum.

Tbh, the Conservatives would still be vulnerable in 2024, it is more that Corbyn has lost than Boris has won. They also campaigned on promises like an end to austerity and getting Brexit done that they are either unable or unwilling to achieve. Still, starting so far behind and such a grim result in Scotland makes it look very hard for Labour to win an outright majority in 2024, hung parliament then certainly possible. 5 grim years beforehand though, and this election should have been a Labour win, so it is really a tragic result.

Labour would have to gain 130 seats to get even near to be a government; Blair did 145 in 1997, so it is not outside the realm of possibility. But Labour needs to pick the right leader.

Indeed, tbh a hung parliament in 2024 with Labour as the largest party looks more plausible. That'd require a gain of about 90 seats, so a David Cameron rather than a Tony Blair.
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