August 2020 Conservative Party of Canada leadership election

[RogueBeaver]

Since the contest has already begun.

[brucejoel99]

Whoever it ends up being, I hope it triggers the SoCon/Wexiteers to the point that they split off & form another party.

[King of Kensington]

What about Rona Ambrose and Lisa Raitt?

[DC Al Fine]

Whoever it ends up being, I hope it triggers the SoCon/Wexiteers to the point that they split off & form another party.

I know you aren't a Tory, so this doesn't quite apply to you, but you'd be amazed at how few pundits and Red Tory types realise how precarious the Tory coalition is (and come to think of it, how unpopular fiscon-soclib is). Half the pro life vote leaving, would pretty much ensure the right can't form government.

What about Rona Ambrose and Lisa Raitt?

Jason Kenney and Brad Wall both mentioned Ambrose recently, so I suspect something is in the works there. Someone needs to be the Western/Blue candidate, and she'd fit the part.

Raitt got 3% of the vote in the last leadership race and lost her seat in the election. Classic case of the media loving a candidate and no one else.

[DC Al Fine]

Since the contest has already begun. Sources are Globe, La Presse, Le Devoir, CP, Star for those wondering.

Out: Bernard Lord, Brad Wall, Doug Ford, Brian Pallister, Caroline Mulroney, Max Bernier

In: Erin O'Toole

Maybe: Rona Ambrose, Peter MacKay, Michelle Rempel, Pierre Poilievre, Candice Bergen, Gerard Deltell, Marilyn Gladu, Mike Chong, Lisa Raitt.

As far as factional candidates go, I'm hearing that Right Now is trying to draft Garnett Genius as the socon candidate.

[DL]

I know you aren't a Tory, so this doesn't quite apply to you, but you'd be amazed at how few pundits and Red Tory types realise how precarious the Tory coalition is (and come to think of it, how unpopular fiscon-soclib is). Half the pro life vote leaving, would pretty much ensure the right can't form government.

Where else can they go? The Christian Heritage Party?

[DC Al Fine]

I know you aren't a Tory, so this doesn't quite apply to you, but you'd be amazed at how few pundits and Red Tory types realise how precarious the Tory coalition is (and come to think of it, how unpopular fiscon-soclib is). Half the pro life vote leaving, would pretty much ensure the right can't form government.

Where else can they go? The Christian Heritage Party?

CHP, PPC, Wexit , some new party one of the pro-life MP's formed... my point really wasn't about the pro life movement specifically though.

A lot of pundits and Red Tories think that liberalizing is a cure all for the Tories without any downsides. If (and this probably won't happen, but hypothetically), a new leader pushed too far in one direction and caused even a marginally bigger schism than Bernier, it would be a huge problem. The portion of the population open to voting for the right in Canada just isn't that big. For every socon, or free marketeer, or whatever vote lost to schism, you would need to win another increasingly difficult to win vote from the left just to break even. Bernier didn't have much of an impact but even if he got 4-5% of the vote, it would have been very difficult for Scheer to win.

[RogueBeaver]

Hill Times reports Michael Fortier is seriously considering running.

https://twitter.com/cath_cullen/status/1206616431875547142

[RogueBeaver]

MacKay is leaning yes but hasn't made a final decision, Ambrose hasn't expressed interest yet but her unilingualism has sparked an ABA movement here in Quebec. Poilievre and Deltell are interested but haven't made a final decision either.

[Hatman 🍁]

Rumour is Ambrose won't run. But if she did, she'd be the clear front runner right now. Our poll will be out today.

[RogueBeaver]

Ambrose is considering a possible run, but she's also reflecting on her private life.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Erin O’Toole would be a great nominee though I hope he is not as milquetoast as Scheer was

[DC Al Fine]

Since the contest has already begun. Sources are Globe, La Presse, Le Devoir, CP, Star for those wondering.

Out: Bernard Lord, Brad Wall, Doug Ford, Brian Pallister, Caroline Mulroney, Max Bernier

In: Erin O'Toole

Maybe: Rona Ambrose, Peter MacKay, Michelle Rempel, Pierre Poilievre, Candice Bergen, Gerard Deltell, Marilyn Gladu, Mike Chong, Lisa Raitt.

Just noticed his name. Geez, what is it with the media and  speculating about old retired pols running? I'm half expecting to see Mike Harris or Jean Charest's names come up in 'who's running' articles.

Screw it, I don't care of he's pushing 90, I'm backing John Crosbie for leader!

[Hatman 🍁]

Here's our report: https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2019/12/little-cheer-for-scheer-as-conservatives-ponder-the-next-leader/

Among Tories:
Ambrose: 28
MacKay: 15
Harper: 12
Rempel: 8
Mulroney: 5

[DL]

Note that 60% of of CONSERVATIVE VOTERS think Doug Ford would be a "terrible" choice for leader and only 4% think he would be an "excellent" choice - so much for that!

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/nspector4/status/1207368435895689218

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/nspector4/status/1207368435895689218

You son of a bitch, I'm in!

[DC Al Fine]

Since the contest has already begun. Sources are Globe, La Presse, Le Devoir, CP, Star for those wondering.

Out: Bernard Lord, Brad Wall, Doug Ford, Brian Pallister, Caroline Mulroney, Max Bernier

In: Erin O'Toole

Maybe: Rona Ambrose, Peter MacKay, Michelle Rempel, Pierre Poilievre, Candice Bergen, Gerard Deltell, Marilyn Gladu, Mike Chong, Lisa Raitt.

Just noticed his name. Geez, what is it with the media and  speculating about old retired pols running? I'm half expecting to see Mike Harris or Jean Charest's names come up in 'who's running' articles.

Screw it, I don't care of he's pushing 90, I'm backing John Crosbie for leader!

I will now collect my accolades

[Continential]

Since the contest has already begun. Sources are Globe, La Presse, Le Devoir, CP, Star for those wondering.

Out: Bernard Lord, Brad Wall, Doug Ford, Brian Pallister, Caroline Mulroney, Max Bernier

In: Erin O'Toole

Maybe: Rona Ambrose, Peter MacKay, Michelle Rempel, Pierre Poilievre, Candice Bergen, Gerard Deltell, Marilyn Gladu, Mike Chong, Lisa Raitt.

Just noticed his name. Geez, what is it with the media and  speculating about old retired pols running? I'm half expecting to see Mike Harris or Jean Charest's names come up in 'who's running' articles.

Screw it, I don't care of he's pushing 90, I'm backing John Crosbie for leader!

Why not have Joe Clark, he's a former Prime Minister and he is a TRUE RED TORY, he would totally wipe the liberals to PC 1993 levels. /s

[pikachu]

https://twitter.com/nspector4/status/1207368435895689218

Huh. I didn’t realize that Charest is only 61.

[Continential]

https://twitter.com/nspector4/status/1207368435895689218

Huh. I didn’t realize that Charest is only 61.

At this point, why not have Stockwell Day or Kim Campbell running?

[DL]

The whole notion of Jean Charest as fefderal Tory leader is ludicrous. First of all, to Tory members he is seen as a Liberal and second of all, he was the most unpopular premier in the history of Quebec so its not as if Quebec Tories will want to collectively commit suicide either

[DC Al Fine]

The whole notion of Jean Charest as fefderal Tory leader is ludicrous. First of all, to Tory members he is seen as a Liberal and second of all, he was the most unpopular premier in the history of Quebec so its not as if Quebec Tories will want to collectively commit suicide either

Is the trend of terribly unsuitable candidates wanting to run and being feted by the media a uniquely Tory tradition, or do the Liberals and NDP also have this problem?

[DL]

The whole notion of Jean Charest as fefderal Tory leader is ludicrous. First of all, to Tory members he is seen as a Liberal and second of all, he was the most unpopular premier in the history of Quebec so its not as if Quebec Tories will want to collectively commit suicide either

Is the trend of terribly unsuitable candidates wanting to run and being feted by the media a uniquely Tory tradition, or do the Liberals and NDP also have this problem?

In the case of the Liberals they found a terribly unsuitable candidate who wanted to run for their leadership who was feted by the media - and he became leader with predictable results. Remember Michael Ignatieff?

[jaymichaud]

Bernier >>>>>