Impeachment Megathread Part 3

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

Given Biden is getting so little enthusiasm, campaigns so badly and gets such bad results, he probably was always overrated and the Democrats have a stronger candidate. If Biden loses the nomination and Trump helped that outcome happen, he may have done Democrats a favor (and the country too). However, most likely Burisma had no effect on the outcome either way-Democratic voters aren't going to be open to Trump's messages.

You gotta love Democrats. One day they say "her emails" indeed hurt Hillary, and some say they shouldn't nominate someone under "investigation".

Another day, they say Hunter's corruption didn't matter (even though GOP literally threaten to investigate him) 

[Hindsight was 2020]

Given Biden is getting so little enthusiasm, campaigns so badly and gets such bad results, he probably was always overrated and the Democrats have a stronger candidate. If Biden loses the nomination and Trump helped that outcome happen, he may have done Democrats a favor (and the country too). However, most likely Burisma had no effect on the outcome either way-Democratic voters aren't going to be open to Trump's messages.

You gotta love Democrats. One day they say "her emails" indeed hurt Hillary, and some say they shouldn't nominate someone under "investigation".

Another day, they say Hunter's corruption didn't matter (even though GOP literally threaten to investigate him) 

Your trolling is beyond tiring and I don’t care if it’s a bit or not. It isn’t funny

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

Given Biden is getting so little enthusiasm, campaigns so badly and gets such bad results, he probably was always overrated and the Democrats have a stronger candidate. If Biden loses the nomination and Trump helped that outcome happen, he may have done Democrats a favor (and the country too). However, most likely Burisma had no effect on the outcome either way-Democratic voters aren't going to be open to Trump's messages.

You gotta love Democrats. One day they say "her emails" indeed hurt Hillary, and some say they shouldn't nominate someone under "investigation".

Another day, they say Hunter's corruption didn't matter (even though GOP literally threaten to investigate him) 

Your trolling is beyond tiring and I don’t care if it’s a bit or not. It isn’t funny

How's it trolling to state a simple fact, that if you thought "her emails"/Wikileaks/Russians mattered, you should definitely think Hunter mattered, too.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/impeachment-didnt-change-minds-it-eroded-trust/
Impeachment Didn’t Change Minds — It Eroded Trust

The impeachment process might not have shifted anyone’s view about Trump, but it did drive Americans further into their partisan camps — and in the process, unraveled their already frayed sense of trust in the political system. When we spoke to them after the Senate trial had concluded, our respondents had few kind words for either party. Instead, they saw impeachment as a stark and painful example of the country’s partisan stalemate.

“The way I see it is, we seem to be in a place where our politicians don’t really make decisions for themselves — they just say, ‘Well I belong to this party and so that’s how I’m going to vote,’” said Emily Underwood, 29, a Republican-leaning independent. “We’re divided. We’re stuck. I knew that before impeachment, but it’s even clearer to me now.”

Democrats worry impeachment will backfire

Republicans became more supportive of Trump

People were left angered and disillusioned

There was one thing in our surveys that united ordinary Republicans and Democrats: a sense of anger that for four months, their elected leaders had relentlessly jabbed at the country’s gaping partisan wound. For some, it became exhausting to pick up their newspapers or turn on the TV each day. Very few of the respondents we talked with felt triumphant about how impeachment ended. Instead, they mostly thought the two parties had fought to a messy draw.

“The Democrats were bullies, but the Republicans were just as bad,” said Megon Burkit, 43, who identifies as a Republican. “They didn’t have a strong defense. I think everyone is blowing smoke up our butts.”

The price of this anger and disillusionment appears to have been a loss of trust in public institutions — Congress, the news media, the presidency, you name it. A majority (65 percent) of Americans said their level of trust in the American political system had decreased because of the impeachment process. “Democrats, Republicans — it’s starting to feel like nobody has ordinary working people’s interests at heart,” said Alleyne. (She said in our survey that she leans toward the Democrats.) “They’re not trying to help us. They’re just fighting. Nothing seems to be coming together.”

It also left both Republicans and Democrats with an even more bitter impression of their political rivals. By the time the trial was over, 71 percent of Republicans strongly disapproved of how Democrats in Congress were handling impeachment (approximately the same percentage as in November). Sixty-five percent of Democrats felt the same way about congressional Republicans, up from 49 percent in November.

People who identified as Republican or leaned Republican told us they thought the Democrats were mainly looking for a chance to score political points at Trump’s expense. “I just thought it was a publicity play by the Democrats, trying to grab the limelight,” said Robert Wehner, 70. Democrats, for their part, saw the Republicans as equally mercenary. “The way they lied, how their story kept changing — it’s disturbing,” said Evan Smith, 46. “I don’t know how they can look at themselves in the mirror in the morning.”

But there were also respondents who told us they felt lost in the increasingly vast no-man’s-land between the two parties. “It’s like there’s a war in Washington, one side against the other, and everyone has to toe the party line,” said Eric Boggis, 61, an independent who said he doesn’t lean toward either party. He doesn’t like Trump and said he didn’t vote for him in 2016. But he thought the Democrats’ efforts were a “long shot” and a waste of time, especially with the presidential election looming on the horizon. “[The Democrats] were never going to get rid of him through impeachment,” Boggis said. “Let the voters have their say, and he’ll probably be gone in a year anyway.”

Anyone who's intellectually honest knew it would be the outcome of a highly divisive Impeachment Garbage... an even more bitterly divided country moving even further apart. Putin's dream is coming true (thanks to Pelosi).

As smart as she is, Pelosi knew it, of course. She did it anyway, because she thought she and the Democratic party would benefit politically by it. Well, she'd better hope her unpatriotic gamble plays out well rather than backfires. Otherwise, Trump will revenge with fire, fury and conservative judges you've never seen before 

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-republicans-plan-first-subpoena-in-burisma-biden-probe/2020/03/02/0111b39a-5cbb-11ea-b014-4fafa866bb81_story.html
Senate Republicans plan first subpoena in Burisma, Biden probe

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) is preparing to subpoena a witness tied to Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma, in an escalation of the GOP probe of the firm that comes as former vice president Joe Biden’s fortunes are rising in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary.

Johnson, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, sent a letter Sunday to members of the panel informing them of his plan to force a vote on subpoenaing the witness, political consultant and former Ukrainian diplomat Andrii Telizhenko, who worked for a company called Blue Star Strategies that was a representative for Burisma in the United States.

Hunter Biden, Joe Biden’s son, sat on the board of Burisma while his father was the Obama administration’s point person on Ukraine policy. President Trump and Republicans have claimed, without evidence, that there was something nefarious in the Bidens’ dealings with Ukraine.

Trump and his allies have focused primarily on Biden’s push to have Ukraine’s top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, removed — a position supported at the time by other Western leaders who said Shokin was not doing enough to root out corruption in Ukraine. The prosecutor had previously investigated Burisma, but the probe was dormant at the time, according to former Ukrainian and U.S. officials.

If approved, Johnson’s move would mark the first subpoena Senate Republicans have issued in their probe into Biden and Burisma.

Two other GOP senators — Charles E. Grassley (Iowa) and Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) — have also launched investigations into Hunter Biden.

In an interview Monday night, Johnson denied that Biden’s win sparked his subpoena request, noting that “we’d still be asking for the same information” regardless of Biden’s status as a Democratic presidential candidate.

“My oversight is not directed toward Joe Biden or Hunter Biden,” Johnson said. “It’s these issues — it just so happens that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are also wrapped up and connected to the whole Ukrainian issue.”

We need to get to the bottom of this! 🧐
DRAIN THE SWAMP!