HB 22-02: Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act (Passed)

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Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act

SECTION I: NAME

1. This bill may be cited as the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act.
2. This bill may, in short, be cited as the Assault Weapon Ban Act.

SECTION II: ASSAULT WEAPON BAN

1. There shall be a nationwide ban on the purchasing, sale, or possession of assualt weapons, these weapons include semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns, which can accept detachable magazines, as well as revolving cylindrical shotguns.

2. Any weapon that is purchased, sold, or possessed may not have a folding or collapsible stock, a bayonet lug, a threaded barrel, a grenade launcher, or a barrel shroud.

SECTION III: AUTOMATIC WEAPON BAN

1. There shall be a ban on the purchasing, sale, or possession of fully automatic weapons, also known as Title II weapons under the National Firearms Act.

SECTION IV: TIMING

1. This bill shall take effect, one week after being signed by the President.

Sponsor: Citizen (S019)
House Designation: HB 22-02

72 hours to debate.

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This is a citizen bill submitted by S019 in the Public Consultation and Legislation Submission thread.

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This is a citizen bill submitted by S019 in the Public Consultation and Legislation Submission thread.

I don't think this was the first bill in the queue. See old noticeboard. Let me look.

Update: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=208051.msg6850917#msg6850917 did this become law or no? Otherwise yes this belongs on the floor.

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This is a citizen bill submitted by S019 in the Public Consultation and Legislation Submission thread.

I don't think this was the first bill in the queue. See old noticeboard. Let me look.

Update: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=208051.msg6850917#msg6850917 did this become law or no? Otherwise yes this belongs on the floor.

My assumption was because it was adressed to the Senate it wasn't meant to start in the house..?

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This is a citizen bill submitted by S019 in the Public Consultation and Legislation Submission thread.

I don't think this was the first bill in the queue. See old noticeboard. Let me look.

Update: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=208051.msg6850917#msg6850917 did this become law or no? Otherwise yes this belongs on the floor.

My assumption was because it was adressed to the Senate it wasn't meant to start in the house..?

IIRC that's correct.

So yea you did the right thing here.

[Blair]

A ban coming into place one week after the President's signature would be interesting- it takes a lot longer for my local council to change the type of recycling bins we have.

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

What a great bill. Thank you for putting it forward, citizen S019! I would understand if some representatives wish to change the implementation date, that would make sense since one week is a bit short to say the least.

[Esteemed Jimmy]

I support a federal assault weapons ban.

[fhtagn]

Automatic weapons are already extremely regulated and are not a threat to public safety today. There is no valid reason to push for an outright ban.

There is also no valid reason to push for an assault weapons ban, especially when the definition is extremely vague, applies to most guns already in circulation, and cannot reasonably or legally be implemented.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Do you seriously think everyone will turn in their guns?

Anyway, yeah I oppose this bill for reasons already discussed pretty much everywhere in Atlasia for the past year or so.

[fhtagn]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Do you seriously think everyone will turn in their guns?

Anyway, yeah I oppose this bill for reasons already discussed pretty much everywhere in Atlasia for the past year or so.

This. Not a single person who owns a gun that fits the extremely vague description given in this bill has any reason to give their guns up. Nor does the federal government have any authority to take them away.

[fhtagn]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Can you name a single mass shooting in recent history that involved an automatic weapon?

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Can you name a single mass shooting in recent history that involved an automatic weapon?

Automatic weapons are essentially already banned, so no. But plenty of mass shooting have involved Assault Weapons, at least under the bill's definition thereof.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Do you seriously think everyone will turn in their guns?

Anyway, yeah I oppose this bill for reasons already discussed pretty much everywhere in Atlasia for the past year or so.

This. Not a single person who owns a gun that fits the extremely vague description given in this bill has any reason to give their guns up. Nor does the federal government have any authority to take them away.

As the bill doesn't address confiscation, my guess is Police would simply confiscate such weapons whenever they are found when fining/arresting someone for some other offense.

[fhtagn]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Do you seriously think everyone will turn in their guns?

Anyway, yeah I oppose this bill for reasons already discussed pretty much everywhere in Atlasia for the past year or so.

This. Not a single person who owns a gun that fits the extremely vague description given in this bill has any reason to give their guns up. Nor does the federal government have any authority to take them away.

As the bill doesn't address confiscation, my guess is Police would simply confiscate such weapons whenever they are found when fining/arresting someone for some other offense.

Which they have no authority to do, especially since the guns were legally acquired.

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Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act

SECTION I: NAME

1. This bill may be cited as the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act.
2. This bill may, in short, be cited as the Assault Weapon Ban Act.

SECTION II: ASSAULT WEAPON BAN

1. There shall be a nationwide ban on the purchasing, sale, or possession of assualt weapons, these weapons include semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns, which can accept detachable magazines, as well as revolving cylindrical shotguns.

2. Any weapon that is purchased, sold, or possessed may not have a folding or collapsible stock, a bayonet lug, a threaded barrel, a grenade launcher, or a barrel shroud.

SECTION III: AUTOMATIC WEAPON BAN

1. There shall be a ban on the purchasing, sale, or possession of fully automatic weapons, also known as Title II weapons under the National Firearms Act.

SECTION IV: TIMING

1. This bill shall take effect, one week six months after being signed by the President.

An amendment, there needs to be a longer timeframe to prevent complications. Otherwise I'm on board.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Do you seriously think everyone will turn in their guns?

Anyway, yeah I oppose this bill for reasons already discussed pretty much everywhere in Atlasia for the past year or so.

This. Not a single person who owns a gun that fits the extremely vague description given in this bill has any reason to give their guns up. Nor does the federal government have any authority to take them away.

As the bill doesn't address confiscation, my guess is Police would simply confiscate such weapons whenever they are found when fining/arresting someone for some other offense.

Which they have no authority to do, especially since the guns were legally acquired.

Legally acquired, but illegally possessed. The executive branch has every right to enforce the law through direction of our law enforcement personnel.

[fhtagn]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Do you seriously think everyone will turn in their guns?

Anyway, yeah I oppose this bill for reasons already discussed pretty much everywhere in Atlasia for the past year or so.

This. Not a single person who owns a gun that fits the extremely vague description given in this bill has any reason to give their guns up. Nor does the federal government have any authority to take them away.

As the bill doesn't address confiscation, my guess is Police would simply confiscate such weapons whenever they are found when fining/arresting someone for some other offense.

Which they have no authority to do, especially since the guns were legally acquired.

Legally acquired, but illegally possessed. The executive branch has every right to enforce the law through direction of our law enforcement personnel.

This bill is so poorly written it does nothing to actually outline anything needed to actually make something illegal. The federal government has absolutely no right to pass this, and no right to enforce this.

[S019]

Yeah, one week is probably too little time for a full federal ban, I support the amendment proposed by Congressman ReaganClinton20XX. Also Congressman-Emeritus Wulfric states exactly why I proposed this as a citizen in the first place, Atlasia has far too much gun violence compared to the rest of the Western world. One example of a place with far less gun violence is Australia, where gun violence is nearly nonexistent due to stringent gun regulation. Also, 2019 was the deadliest year for gun violence since the 1970’s, according to the Associated Press. I call on Congress to act in our time of need and pass this bill to save countless innocent lives that are lost each year in gun violence.

[fhtagn]

Yeah, one week is probably too little time for a full federal ban, I support the amendment proposed by Congressman ReaganClinton20XX. Also Congressman-Emeritus Wulfric states exactly why I proposed this as a citizen in the first place, Atlasia has far too much gun violence compared to the rest of the Western world. One example of a place with far less gun violence is Australia, where gun violence is nearly nonexistent due to stringent gun regulation. Also, 2019 was the deadliest year for gun violence since the 1970’s, according to the Associated Press. I call on Congress to act in our time of need and pass this bill to save countless innocent lives that are lost each year in gun violence.

Yet you can't write a single well written bill that actually does anything enforceable on the issue you are speaking about.


You also can't be bothered to answer the valid point about automatic weapons, which are already regulated and aren't killing people.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Do you seriously think everyone will turn in their guns?

Anyway, yeah I oppose this bill for reasons already discussed pretty much everywhere in Atlasia for the past year or so.

This. Not a single person who owns a gun that fits the extremely vague description given in this bill has any reason to give their guns up. Nor does the federal government have any authority to take them away.

As the bill doesn't address confiscation, my guess is Police would simply confiscate such weapons whenever they are found when fining/arresting someone for some other offense.

Which they have no authority to do, especially since the guns were legally acquired.

Legally acquired, but illegally possessed. The executive branch has every right to enforce the law through direction of our law enforcement personnel.

This bill is so poorly written it does nothing to actually outline anything needed to actually make something illegal. The federal government has absolutely no right to pass this, and no right to enforce this.

True, I'm disappointed this bill doesn't have a specific process for confiscation or punishment. But if it did, you'd just switch over to an attack on said confiscation/punishment. Let's not pretend your opposition comes from anything more than partisan hatred of everything the Labor Party does.

[fhtagn]

This bill will prevent all mass shootings, and every Atlasian should stand in strong support.

Do you seriously think everyone will turn in their guns?

Anyway, yeah I oppose this bill for reasons already discussed pretty much everywhere in Atlasia for the past year or so.

This. Not a single person who owns a gun that fits the extremely vague description given in this bill has any reason to give their guns up. Nor does the federal government have any authority to take them away.

As the bill doesn't address confiscation, my guess is Police would simply confiscate such weapons whenever they are found when fining/arresting someone for some other offense.

Which they have no authority to do, especially since the guns were legally acquired.

Legally acquired, but illegally possessed. The executive branch has every right to enforce the law through direction of our law enforcement personnel.

This bill is so poorly written it does nothing to actually outline anything needed to actually make something illegal. The federal government has absolutely no right to pass this, and no right to enforce this.

True, I'm disappointed this bill doesn't have a specific process for confiscation or punishment. But if it did, you'd just switch over to an attack on said confiscation/punishment. Let's not pretend your opposition comes from anything more than partisan hatred of everything the Labor Party does.

The Atlasian Constitution makes pretty clear what Congress has the power to do. What you are trying to argue about this bill violates it.

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Article_III_of_the_Fourth_Constitution#Section_6_.28Powers.29

Section 6 (Powers)The Congress shall have the power, except where limited elsewhere by this Constitution,

1. to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, and to distribute the revenue thus collected;
2. to regulate foreign trade and inter-regional commerce;
3. to establish uniform laws of naturalization;
4. to regulate the value and coinage of the national currency;
5. to establish a uniform system of weights and measures;
6. to establish post offices and post roads;
7. to define and punish crimes committed on the high seas
8. to declare war, issue letters of marque and reprisal, and make laws governing the capture of land and water;
9. to raise, support, and regulate the national armed forces;
10. to admit new states and territories to the Union;
11. to make laws governing borrowing, lending, and the selling of stocks and bonds;
12. to confirm or reject nominations for the Supreme Court and the officers of executive departments;
13. to establish a central national bank;
14. to make laws necessary for the enforcement of the Constitution and federal law; and
15. to regulate voter registration and federal elections.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

"make laws necessary for the enforcement of the Constitution "

This law enforces the constitution by keeping section 7 of the bill of rights properly constrained to the limits intended by the leftist government that led the writing thereof.

I also remind the Honorable Fhtagn that the Supreme Court is 4-1 Left.

[fhtagn]

"make laws necessary for the enforcement of the Constitution "

This law enforces the constitution by keeping section 7 of the bill of rights properly constrained to the limits intended by the leftist government that led the writing thereof.

I also remind the Honorable Fhtagn that the Supreme Court is 4-1 Left.

Thank you for providing more reasons this bill has no valid reason to pass.