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« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2020, 02:17:20 PM »



This tweet right here was a fairly odd thing to say for someone who supposedly supported Clinton. It was almost as if he was encouraging his supporters to vote for Trump. He is a sneaky person and knew what he was posting. Clinton can say what she wants about him.

Didn’t Clinton say something similar? The “basket of deplorables” comment was in the context of her saying that there were many Trump supporters who aren’t deplorable.
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« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2020, 02:18:40 PM »


This tweet right here was a fairly odd thing to say for someone who supposedly supported Clinton. It was almost as if he was encouraging his supporters to vote for Trump. He is a sneaky person and knew what he was posting. Clinton can say what she wants about him.

Saying that many of those who support Trump aren't racist or sexist isn't the same as saying Trump isn't racist or sexist. Plus, it's not like saying those who support Trump are horrible worked out too well for Clinton. Even if you believe that most of Trump's supporters are racist, that's not something you should explicitly say as a candidate.

Tweeting out anything right before the election that even implies that it is ok to vote for the opposition is wrong. Sanders is not that stupid.

Saying that it's okay to vote for the opposition =/= Saying that people who do aren't racist or sexist

Maybe if Hillary had learned the same thing and humbled herself, she would be president right now.

Why was it necessary for him to say that? Voters know what their intentions are and don't need a politician to tell them anything. It was just an odd thing to tweet right before any election especially from someone who never really conceded that they lost the primary.

I don't know, I don't live inside his head.  Why did Hillary call her opponents' supporters deplorable?

Maybe because a lot of them are deplorable? The past three years have demonstrated that a lot of them are and many people have woken up to that fact.

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« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2020, 02:19:45 PM »


This tweet right here was a fairly odd thing to say for someone who supposedly supported Clinton. It was almost as if he was encouraging his supporters to vote for Trump. He is a sneaky person and knew what he was posting. Clinton can say what she wants about him.

Saying that many of those who support Trump aren't racist or sexist isn't the same as saying Trump isn't racist or sexist. Plus, it's not like saying those who support Trump are horrible worked out too well for Clinton. Even if you believe that most of Trump's supporters are racist, that's not something you should explicitly say as a candidate.

Tweeting out anything right before the election that even implies that it is ok to vote for the opposition is wrong. Sanders is not that stupid.

Saying that it's okay to vote for the opposition =/= Saying that people who do aren't racist or sexist

Maybe if Hillary had learned the same thing and humbled herself, she would be president right now.

Why was it necessary for him to say that? Voters know what their intentions are and don't need a politician to tell them anything. It was just an odd thing to tweet right before any election especially from someone who never really conceded that they lost the primary.

I don't know, I don't live inside his head.  Why did Hillary call her opponents' supporters deplorable?

Maybe because a lot of them are deplorable? The past three years have demonstrated that a lot of them are and many people have woken up to that fact.

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If you are an asshole, you don’t get respect. You had the tolerant left for years but you pushed too far. You can’t expect us to play nice when your side refuses for years.  I sincerely hope the Democrats play the same games the GOP has done to an extent. If there was any justice in the World, your state alone would be a 53-0 Dem gerrymander.
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« Reply #103 on: January 21, 2020, 02:21:20 PM »

Democrats aren't winning anyone who votes based on Trump's racist ramblings, period. The House flipped in 2018 because voters in swing states rejected extremism and hate. If you think Sanders would win this racists that marched in Charlottesville you need to rethink that.
A good deal of those people who voted Democratic in 2018, voted for Donald Trump.
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« Reply #104 on: January 21, 2020, 02:21:31 PM »


This tweet right here was a fairly odd thing to say for someone who supposedly supported Clinton. It was almost as if he was encouraging his supporters to vote for Trump. He is a sneaky person and knew what he was posting. Clinton can say what she wants about him.

Saying that many of those who support Trump aren't racist or sexist isn't the same as saying Trump isn't racist or sexist. Plus, it's not like saying those who support Trump are horrible worked out too well for Clinton. Even if you believe that most of Trump's supporters are racist, that's not something you should explicitly say as a candidate.

Tweeting out anything right before the election that even implies that it is ok to vote for the opposition is wrong. Sanders is not that stupid.

Saying that it's okay to vote for the opposition =/= Saying that people who do aren't racist or sexist

Maybe if Hillary had learned the same thing and humbled herself, she would be president right now.

Why was it necessary for him to say that? Voters know what their intentions are and don't need a politician to tell them anything. It was just an odd thing to tweet right before any election especially from someone who never really conceded that they lost the primary.

I don't know, I don't live inside his head.  Why did Hillary call her opponents' supporters deplorable?

Because some are deplorable. In that full speech, she specifically singled out racists, sexists, homophobes and xenophobes. Whether it's stragetically smart or not is another question (obviously it's not that much), but Trump constantly mocked and insulted other people. Her remarks are hardly a big deal compared to Trump's disgusting behavior. Also, if she was elected, I'm sure she would have tried to represent to whole country, where Trump has made zero efforts to reach out to anyone not 100% in line with him.
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« Reply #105 on: January 21, 2020, 02:26:04 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2020, 02:32:05 PM by CEO of Bernie Sanders »

Love to see the racists and sexists come out the woodwork. Remember kids, you're not a real woman or POC unless you're a centrist! If you're a woman, you don't get Landslide Lyndon or RFKFan's allyship. You're just Fighting for Men if you don't agree with them.
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« Reply #106 on: January 21, 2020, 02:28:32 PM »

Meanwhile RFKFan is bringing up bog-standard smears in a non-sequitur response to my post. How low can discourse on Atlas possibly go?
Jane bankrupting that college is a matter of public record.

Jane tweeting that it didn't matter who voted for was there in black and white.

Where was the smear? Where did I go low?
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« Reply #107 on: January 21, 2020, 02:30:41 PM »

Look at y'all acting like she came out and gave a speech on this or something.

They're making a movie about her.  They did an interview with her for it and asked her the question and she gave an honest answer.  So why blame her for the timing.
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« Reply #108 on: January 21, 2020, 02:34:55 PM »


This tweet right here was a fairly odd thing to say for someone who supposedly supported Clinton. It was almost as if he was encouraging his supporters to vote for Trump. He is a sneaky person and knew what he was posting. Clinton can say what she wants about him.

Saying that many of those who support Trump aren't racist or sexist isn't the same as saying Trump isn't racist or sexist. Plus, it's not like saying those who support Trump are horrible worked out too well for Clinton. Even if you believe that most of Trump's supporters are racist, that's not something you should explicitly say as a candidate.

Tweeting out anything right before the election that even implies that it is ok to vote for the opposition is wrong. Sanders is not that stupid.

Saying that it's okay to vote for the opposition =/= Saying that people who do aren't racist or sexist

Maybe if Hillary had learned the same thing and humbled herself, she would be president right now.

Why was it necessary for him to say that? Voters know what their intentions are and don't need a politician to tell them anything. It was just an odd thing to tweet right before any election especially from someone who never really conceded that they lost the primary.

I don't know, I don't live inside his head.  Why did Hillary call her opponents' supporters deplorable?

Maybe because a lot of them are deplorable? The past three years have demonstrated that a lot of them are and many people have woken up to that fact.

tolerant left strikes again
If you are an asshole, you don’t get respect. You had the tolerant left for years but you pushed too far. You can’t expect us to play nice when your side refuses for years.  I sincerely hope the Democrats play the same games the GOP has done to an extent. If there was any justice in the World, your state alone would be a 53-0 Dem gerrymander.


yes if there was justice it would be 53-0, however the dems aren't ruthless in politics so GOP gets 7 or so seats!
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« Reply #109 on: January 21, 2020, 02:36:53 PM »


This tweet right here was a fairly odd thing to say for someone who supposedly supported Clinton. It was almost as if he was encouraging his supporters to vote for Trump. He is a sneaky person and knew what he was posting. Clinton can say what she wants about him.

Saying that many of those who support Trump aren't racist or sexist isn't the same as saying Trump isn't racist or sexist. Plus, it's not like saying those who support Trump are horrible worked out too well for Clinton. Even if you believe that most of Trump's supporters are racist, that's not something you should explicitly say as a candidate.

Tweeting out anything right before the election that even implies that it is ok to vote for the opposition is wrong. Sanders is not that stupid.

Saying that it's okay to vote for the opposition =/= Saying that people who do aren't racist or sexist

Maybe if Hillary had learned the same thing and humbled herself, she would be president right now.

Why was it necessary for him to say that? Voters know what their intentions are and don't need a politician to tell them anything. It was just an odd thing to tweet right before any election especially from someone who never really conceded that they lost the primary.

I don't know, I don't live inside his head.  Why did Hillary call her opponents' supporters deplorable?

Maybe because a lot of them are deplorable? The past three years have demonstrated that a lot of them are and many people have woken up to that fact.

And that, my friend, is why you lose.

Democrats aren't winning anyone who votes based on Trump's racist ramblings, period. The House flipped in 2018 because voters in swing states rejected extremism and hate. If you think Sanders would win this racists that marched in Charlottesville you need to rethink that.


This tweet right here was a fairly odd thing to say for someone who supposedly supported Clinton. It was almost as if he was encouraging his supporters to vote for Trump. He is a sneaky person and knew what he was posting. Clinton can say what she wants about him.

Saying that many of those who support Trump aren't racist or sexist isn't the same as saying Trump isn't racist or sexist. Plus, it's not like saying those who support Trump are horrible worked out too well for Clinton. Even if you believe that most of Trump's supporters are racist, that's not something you should explicitly say as a candidate.

Tweeting out anything right before the election that even implies that it is ok to vote for the opposition is wrong. Sanders is not that stupid.

Saying that it's okay to vote for the opposition =/= Saying that people who do aren't racist or sexist

Maybe if Hillary had learned the same thing and humbled herself, she would be president right now.

Why was it necessary for him to say that? Voters know what their intentions are and don't need a politician to tell them anything. It was just an odd thing to tweet right before any election especially from someone who never really conceded that they lost the primary.

I don't know, I don't live inside his head.  Why did Hillary call her opponents' supporters deplorable?

Because some are deplorable. In that full speech, she specifically singled out racists, sexists, homophobes and xenophobes. Whether it's stragetically smart or not is another question (obviously it's not that much), but Trump constantly mocked and insulted other people. Her remarks are hardly a big deal compared to Trump's disgusting behavior. Also, if she was elected, I'm sure she would have tried to represent to whole country, where Trump has made zero efforts to reach out to anyone not 100% in line with him.

If you still believe that the media treats Democrats the same as Republicans when they misbehave or say dumb sh!t, you are sadly mistaken.  You can argue that it's wrong that they don't, and I would agree, but regardless, Democrats held themselves to the standard "when they go low, we go high", and calling Trump supporters deplorable not only goes against that but feeds into the cultural biases that Democrats and liberals have had going against them for years.

There is a reason that conservatives tend to, at the very least, dislike Sanders less than they dislike Hillary or most Democrats.  Part of it is that he's simply better at engaging with people who vote Republican.  For obvious reasons, vicious anti-Semites and bigots will never vote for Sanders, but it says something when Sanders is less afraid of going to conservative bastions, like Liberty University for example, coming clean about the disagreements between liberals and conservatives, and speaking directly to Trump supporters, than other national Democrats.
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« Reply #110 on: January 21, 2020, 02:39:17 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2020, 02:45:49 PM by SN2903 »

I despise Bernie Sanders but I would take him ANY DAY of the week over the vile Hillary Clinton!
Me too. I would vote for a socialist with good intentions over a slimey career politician any day of the week.
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« Reply #111 on: January 21, 2020, 02:49:35 PM »

I am sure Sanders is secretly thrilled about this. Fires up his supporters, results in a burst of donations to his campaign, and focuses media attention on him for a few days when he's least able to get his name out there.

If Biden does end up losing Iowa by a narrow margin I think this would be part of the reason why.
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« Reply #112 on: January 21, 2020, 02:51:18 PM »

That being said, I don't think Hillary appreciates how many of Bernie's supporters voted for her for the same reasons, nor does she appreciate the work Bernie did to try and garner her as much support from his base as possible. It goes without saying that he and Hillary are about as ideologically divergent as two candidates for the Democratic nomination have ever been. And he still did the work to get her elected because he saw the same conundrum I saw.

Are you kidding me? If anything, it hurt her that he didn't endorse her sooner. And indeed it did. It was insane that he stayed in the race for so long after the voting had ended & she had clearly defeated him.

If you'll recall, the Democratic convention was in July, yet Bernie waited 6 weeks (until September) to begin campaigning in stride for her, whereas, when Obama won the nomination in 2008, Hillary was out on the campaign trail for him 2-3 days later after a convention which had served as the culmination of a much more brutal primary.

So please spare us the BS about Hillary apparently not "appreciat[ing] the work Bernie did to try and garner her as much support from his base as possible."

Some seem to remember Bernie going out and putting in real work to get Hillary elected, but maybe that's just from some partisan hack, like...-checks notes-...Rachel Maddow?



Wait you mean to tell me that not only did Bernie campaign in 2016 for Clinton, but he campaigned in the states her team flat out ignored?

Wow, yeah what a selfish bastard!
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« Reply #113 on: January 21, 2020, 02:55:00 PM »

VoAt BlOo No MaTtEr WhO!?1?
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« Reply #114 on: January 21, 2020, 03:04:26 PM »

Hopefully this is all out of our systems by November.
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« Reply #115 on: January 21, 2020, 03:26:54 PM »

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« Reply #116 on: January 21, 2020, 03:30:15 PM »



This is why I like Steyer.
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« Reply #117 on: January 21, 2020, 03:31:25 PM »

This primary has already been a cluster and we haven’t even reached Iowa. I’m starting to think that only a couple of candidates (Buttigieg and Bennet) would actually be even slightly favored at this point against Trump. What a shame, the 2020 presidential election was originally lean D for sure but now I see it as tilt R.
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« Reply #118 on: January 21, 2020, 03:32:42 PM »

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« Reply #119 on: January 21, 2020, 03:34:08 PM »

This primary has already been a cluster and we haven’t even reached Iowa. I’m starting to think that only a couple of candidates (Buttigieg and Bennet) would actually be even slightly favored at this point against Trump. What a shame, the 2020 presidential election was originally lean D for sure but now I see it as tilt R.

Your thinking about this way too much. Especially the amount of impact this comment will have.
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« Reply #120 on: January 21, 2020, 03:36:29 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2020, 03:42:01 PM by Statilius the Epicurean »



Criticising Clinton's foreign policy record is like the 10000th most objectionable thing Gabbard has done. Weird flex.
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« Reply #121 on: January 21, 2020, 03:42:42 PM »



This is why I like Steyer.

I can agree with this. Why must we continue hearing about Hillary Clinton? She is an ex-First Lady, who no longer holds political office, and lost the 2016 election under the rules proscribed by our Constitution. Clinton's unprovoked attack upon Sanders is just another demonstration of why she is a terrible person, and why she did not deserve the Presidency.
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« Reply #122 on: January 21, 2020, 03:45:52 PM »



This is why I like Steyer.

I want to not like him but goddammit he's so charming
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« Reply #123 on: January 21, 2020, 03:54:57 PM »



Wisconsin you say...
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« Reply #124 on: January 21, 2020, 03:58:09 PM »



This is why I like Steyer.

The worst part of the last week or so in politics is me starting to un-ironically like Tom Steyer.
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