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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: January 24, 2020, 02:05:27 AM »

My first paragraph literally singles out people who think Bernie is a self-righteous crank who lost fair and square (i.e. Hillary hacks).  Also, I don’t single out Sanders supporters.  Plenty of Sanders supporters aren’t pointlessly obsessing over the 2016 primaries.  I have no quarrel with them.  

Anyway, the point is there are people being dumb in both camps (Berniecrats and Hacks for Hillary).  Yes, some of Sanders’ supporters sometimes do dumb things.  That’s not an attack on all Berniecrats; it’s a criticism of the ones who are doing the dumb thing in question.  Same deal with Hillary apologists.

Be more careful of what you write comrade or next time you will be labeled enemy of the people.

Sanders is not Stalin, despite what you think.


Stalin wasn't a capitalist and considering that economics is the only issue that matters for some people, I'm not sure why socialists have a problem with Stalin. Didn't the Soviet Union just do what needed to be done to achieve economic balance for the people and keep corporations out?

Juat take a minute to read what you said and realise how monumentally idiotic it sounds.

I'm just using the logic that it seems a lot of socialists use which is that every problem is linked to economic class and nothing else. The communists in Russia got rid of the elitists to establish the USSR which was a closed economy where the means of production were owned by the state. I was under the impression that socialists thought that getting to a socialist economy was the top priority and that everything else was meaningless, but maybe the goalposts have been moved. Doesn't Stalin at least get some points for not being a corporatist?

He killed millions of people.
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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
Nathan
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2020, 02:27:11 AM »

My first paragraph literally singles out people who think Bernie is a self-righteous crank who lost fair and square (i.e. Hillary hacks).  Also, I don’t single out Sanders supporters.  Plenty of Sanders supporters aren’t pointlessly obsessing over the 2016 primaries.  I have no quarrel with them.  

Anyway, the point is there are people being dumb in both camps (Berniecrats and Hacks for Hillary).  Yes, some of Sanders’ supporters sometimes do dumb things.  That’s not an attack on all Berniecrats; it’s a criticism of the ones who are doing the dumb thing in question.  Same deal with Hillary apologists.

Be more careful of what you write comrade or next time you will be labeled enemy of the people.

Sanders is not Stalin, despite what you think.


Stalin wasn't a capitalist and considering that economics is the only issue that matters for some people, I'm not sure why socialists have a problem with Stalin. Didn't the Soviet Union just do what needed to be done to achieve economic balance for the people and keep corporations out?

Juat take a minute to read what you said and realise how monumentally idiotic it sounds.

I'm just using the logic that it seems a lot of socialists use which is that every problem is linked to economic class and nothing else. The communists in Russia got rid of the elitists to establish the USSR which was a closed economy where the means of production were owned by the state. I was under the impression that socialists thought that getting to a socialist economy was the top priority and that everything else was meaningless, but maybe the goalposts have been moved. Doesn't Stalin at least get some points for not being a corporatist?

He killed millions of people.

That isn't news. My point is that in politics some people are willing to overlook wrongdoing if a leader meets their ideological standards.

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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2020, 02:25:10 PM »

All I stated is that it was surprising that a socialist took an issue with Stalin, because I thought anyone who wasn't a capitalist was super cool and off limits for criticism.

Okay. But did you "think that", or are you pretending to have "thought that" because you're under the impression that it's a good talking point to own the maroon avatars with?
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