Why did Orange County, CA elect some House Democrats in the 1960s-70s?
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« on: April 20, 2020, 11:12:05 PM »
« edited: April 20, 2020, 11:18:00 PM by ERM64man »

OC was known for being GOP then. Why were Anaheim and OC’s North Coast represented by Democrats?
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2020, 11:28:49 PM »
« Edited: April 20, 2020, 11:36:37 PM by Tartarus Sauce »

This is something I've also wanted to know. For the entire time that Orange County has had more than one district within its borders, it's only been an all GOP delegation from 1984-1996.

From 1962-1974, Richard Hanna represented the 34th district, and he was followed by Jerry Paterson in a successor district (38th) from 1974-1984. Mark Hannaford represented the redrawn 34th district from 1974-1978, although it also spilled over into Los Angeles County.

What were these guys like? I have to imagine they were quite a bit more conservative than the national Democratic party.

Fun little side note, Hanna was the central political figure in the Koreagate scandal.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2020, 12:02:47 AM »

This is something I've also wanted to know. For the entire time that Orange County has had more than one district within its borders, it's only been an all GOP delegation from 1984-1996.

From 1962-1974, Richard Hanna represented the 34th district, and he was followed by Jerry Paterson in a successor district (38th) from 1974-1984. Mark Hannaford represented the redrawn 34th district from 1974-1978, although it also spilled over into Los Angeles County.

What were these guys like? I have to imagine they were quite a bit more conservative than the national Democratic party.

Fun little side note, Hanna was the central political figure in the Koreagate scandal.
Hanna/Patterson were Anaheim/Santa Ana. Was Hannaford Seal Beach/Westminster/West Garden Grove/Huntington Beach/Cypress/Long Beach in the 1970s? Who were the OC Democrats other than Hanna in the 1960s?
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2020, 08:30:54 AM »

The Anaheim district was drawn in 1962 to include as many Democratic areas as possible.  This continued in the 1970s.  Hannaford was purely a fluke who only won in 1974 because of Watergate (he barely held on in 1976 before losing solidly in 1978).
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2020, 09:03:38 AM »
« Edited: April 21, 2020, 09:07:35 AM by ERM64man »

Was it the Hispanic vote that helped elect Hanna and Patterson?
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2020, 09:06:32 AM »

Was it the Hispanic vote that helped elect Hanna and Patterson?

That as well as white working class voters being included in the district.  That area was always the most Dem part of OC.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2020, 09:10:11 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2020, 10:06:57 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2020, 10:34:46 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2020, 11:19:31 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2020, 11:22:03 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2020, 11:42:13 AM »
« Edited: April 21, 2020, 11:46:20 AM by Mr.Phips »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

In the 60s, it was Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2020, 11:46:18 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2020, 11:56:43 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2020, 12:00:12 PM »
« Edited: April 21, 2020, 12:06:41 PM by ERM64man »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2020, 12:10:05 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2020, 12:14:38 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2020, 12:18:27 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2020, 12:23:11 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2020, 12:28:02 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2020, 12:29:06 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
What were Hanna, Patterson, Hannaford, and Van Deerlin like? Average liberals, Berniecrats, or Blue Dogs?
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2020, 12:35:50 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
What were Hanna, Patterson, Hannaford, and Van Deerlin like? Average liberals, Berniecrats, or Blue Dogs?

They were all pretty middle of the road.
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2020, 12:38:39 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
What were Hanna, Patterson, Hannaford, and Van Deerlin like? Average liberals, Berniecrats, or Blue Dogs?

They were all pretty middle of the road.
The answer is average liberal. Wiggins was a staunch Nixon supporter. What was Hosmer like?
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2020, 12:41:21 PM »

Did the arrival of large numbers of Asians cause the Democratic incumbent on OC to lose in 1978?
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2020, 12:45:12 PM »

Did the arrival of large numbers of Asians cause the Democratic incumbent on OC to lose in 1978?
Hannaford’s district is now Lowenthal’s. Hannaford lost because Watergate was over and Vietnamese immigrants were very GOP at the time.
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