Should there have ever been any troops in Vietnam?

[Justin]

I guess Better Red then Dead forgets the fact that after war millions of South Vietnamese were sent to "re-education camps" in the North. These camps were little better than Nazi concentration camps or Soviet Gulags. Two million South Vietnamese were brutally murdered in purges in these camps in the late 1970's. As well as the mass exodus of South Vietnamese during the fall of the Republic in 1975. To say that South Vietnam was more corrupt is a farce in and of it's self.

[Justin]

And I wouldn't have fought in any conflicts for other countries either.

So, you'd allow millions of people to be purged, murdered, starved or tortured, becuase you feel it's wrong to support a war to prevent such attrocities. I suggest you take a very good look at yourself and re-evaluate your beliefs in marxism. Your own Lenin instituted collectivization in the USSR which served nothing more than to starved millions of Soviet citizens, including the kulaks, ukranians, white russians, Don Cossaks, etc. Stalin liquidated somewhere around 16 million soviet citizens in purges, famines, and gulags in Siberia. During Mao's great leap forward, a couple million died due to the fact that most of the farmers were sent to factories to build up China's industry while crops rotted in the fields and no new crops were planted. When people began to voice thier objections, Mao instituted the Cultural Revolution and purged China of it's intellectuals, pro-democracy advocates, and generals. It is not known how many millions of people were liquidated as part of the Cultural Revolution, but the number was certainly high.

I don't think I need to speak about Pol Pot, or North Korea. Or How the Soviet Union crushed pro-democracy advocates in Hungary and Czechoslovakia in the 60's and 60's and then purged thier governments. I don't need to speak about 100,000 Polish officers murdered by the NKVD after Poland surrendered the USSR in 1939. I don't even need to speak about the fact that after WWII ended, Hundreds of Thousands of Soviet Soldier were sent to Gulags in Siberia, because Stalin thought that since they had a glimpse of the west they were prone to revolt.

To say that you would do nothing to alieviate the suffering of those who are oprressed is cowardism. I spit in your general direction.

[Justin]

I'm not a Stalinist or Maoist or any of that crap. Marx wasn't a dictator. If you think I favor any of the guys you're talking about then you have no clue what you're talking about.

I actually condmened the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot. I said if it wasn't for the Vietnam War they probably wouldn't of gotten the support to come to power.

Sorry that I think sending unwilling kids to die in a hellhole isn't acceptable.

You certainly are a marxist and a Leninist. What Marx wanted to achieve differed little from what Lenin did in the Soviet Union. Or are you telling me that collectivisation and the elimination of rights and freedoms and the creation of the dictatorship of the proletariet are not marxist ideals? It's right there in the manifesto itself. Have you even read the manifesto? In his own doctorine, Marx calls for the elmination of all opposistion to the socialist party.

Khmer Rougue got support to come to power? By whom?

What is your definition of "unwilling" kids ? From facts that I read, plently of them were volunteers. The rest who were draftees still fought to keep the South from falling to the dictatorship of the North. Many of those draftees git purple hearts and gave thier lives to stop communism from spreading. To say that these kids were "unwilling" is an asnine statement.

[Justin]

but nothing like Stalin or Mao. Besides rightwingers think higher taxes on the rich are a human rights violation. Like I should have any sympathy for rich people.

What about Lenin? Becuase of Lenin's institution of the collect farm millions of Soviet citizens were starved to death. This included the kulaks, Don Cossaks,Ukranians,Beylorussians, and poor Russians. Lenin before his death was also planning purges of the Intellectuals and Cpolitical rivals and military officers.