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jokerman
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« on: June 07, 2006, 09:20:05 PM »

The general election obviously is not going to be interesting, nor part of any larger theme in American politics (other than that Gov and Lt Gov are the only statewide offices the people of Conn are comfortable electing Republicans to now and for the forseeable future).

It's the primary that has potential to tell us something about the role of ideology of the Democratic Party and anything else you want to make of it.


And to those people who say that Lieberman is important to the party, I would ask why the people of Conn should be burdened with him.  Politics is local.  Some swing state, maybe, would be well served to house Joe, but for the same reason Oklahoma shouldn't feel bad about not electing "moderate" Republicans over extremists -- it is a task better left to some place like N.H., or R.I, or Maine.  Pennsylvania, a moderate state on the balance, will likewise get a "centrist" Dem as its Senator.  But since a Senator represents the state to the nation, rather than acting as an agent of the nation working in the state, Conn should expect someone in line with the state's values, not the nation's.
I think you're ignoring the fact that regardless of his ideology (Which is rather center-left, really.  His only right leaning issue is that he is a defense hawk.), Joe Lieberman is of the upmost competency and maintains an honorably high level of integrity.  He is an asset to the Senate and to this nation.  We need someone like that who is willing to work with opposites sides and forge compromises.  To replace a great statesman like that with some hack nobody because he's purist on ideology would be an utter shame.
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jokerman
Cosmo Kramer
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2006, 09:23:08 PM »

The left wing "nuts" are the only true Democrats.  No finnicky wishy washy losers like Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman, John Kerry, and John Edwards. 
You may be right about Kerry and also Edwards (who in ideology aren't anywhere near the other two, so why the hell did you group them all into one category?) to a degree, but Lieberman and Nelson are anything but wishy washy and are especially not losers.  There pragmatism is of the uptmost values and is much more honorable than the endless, substanceless Bush-bashing of others.
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jokerman
Cosmo Kramer
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2006, 07:06:23 PM »

The left wing "nuts" are the only true Democrats.  No finnicky wishy washy losers like Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman, John Kerry, and John Edwards. 
You may be right about Kerry and also Edwards (who in ideology aren't anywhere near the other two, so why the hell did you group them all into one category?) to a degree, but Lieberman and Nelson are anything but wishy washy and are especially not losers.  There pragmatism is of the uptmost values and is much more honorable than the endless, substanceless Bush-bashing of others.

Lieberman votes for/against things when they matter then switches to the other when it no longer matter.  Same for Nelson.  Regardless, they stray too far from the party and too close to Bush for being Democrats.  They are disgraces, but are not quite as bad as Zell Miller who was an ultra conservative Republican.  Saying that the Iraq war was a good deicision after everything we've seen is not honorable, it is despicable, especially for a "Democrat".  Substanceless Bush bashing?  Is this a joke?  How does calling him on the deficit, the war, his social policies, and his foreign policies become "substanceless."  I strongly disagree.  The real Democrats are honorably defending the country by rallying against the anti-constitution Bush.
It's quite substanceless when they don't even have their own damn plan.  It's just a waste of everyone's time.
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