Will China invade Taiwan?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Curious as to what yall think.  I say Yes/2006, maybe 7 if they have to deal with NK 1st.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Taiwan would not be easy to take, they have an extremely defensive military (can you say, anti-aircraft missiles?) and they have strong political alliance with many countries China does not want to piss off, hah.

Us and Russia to name 2 big ones.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Uh, No, and at least not for 20 years or more. China's economy right now is not, repeat not, built for war. They are dependant on foreign investment, money that would be completely cut off by invading Taiwan. Not to mention what harm it would do to the overall world economy.

Yes exactly. Who is currently supplying the impetous for all of their economic development? The United States and the EU both of which would, at the least, call on sanctions of China and Chinese goods or actually prepare a full scale war against China.

If a war between the US and China became a reality it would almost certainly end in a US victory. Chinese naval assets are mostly old Soviet equipment which wouldn't stand a chance against American naval forces rendering an amphibious invasion of Taiwan complete suicide if US forces are in the area.

On the ground it would be much different. While we have the more advanced technology they have a distinct advantage in numbers at the beginning of the war, outnumbering the entire US Army by over 2:1 not including National Guard and Civil Defence elements. It would be a hard fought war probably on the scale of WWII in size and scope although help from other Asian nations plus EU countries would help the American side if Russia stays neutral in any conflict.

In a nuclear engagement any Chinese officials would know that he is screwed, utterly and completely. The Chinese have about 35 missles capable of reaching targets in the continental US as compared to the over 1500 such devices in the American arsenal. Which basically means that any Chinese leader would have to succomb to the fact that if he launches his weapons his entire country would be reduced to radioactive slag, a very strong deterent against the starting of a nuclear war.

Russian involvement would be key. While I see them as mostly staying neutral in the conflict it is likely that they would actually join the American side due to a mutual distrust between China and Russia. India would also be a major factor. Again there are unresolved conflicts between those two powers that may force the Indians into the American camp, as well as the spectre of a militarily dominant Asian superpower in China dominating the subcontinent.

Lastly why in the name of hell do you think China will attack Taiwan in 2006? They have no reason to and unless Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao have been smoking crack cocaine for the last year and a half would not commit themselves to what basically accounts for national suicide.

They said they were going to invade Taiwan in the near future to regain what they had lost, and 2006 was the predicted year by most people.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Curious as to what yall think.  I say Yes/2006, maybe 7 if they have to deal with NK 1st.

You really can't wait for an all-out war in the Far East, can you?

I just want to see those countries corrected; if that means war, then absolutely.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Uh, No, and at least not for 20 years or more. China's economy right now is not, repeat not, built for war. They are dependant on foreign investment, money that would be completely cut off by invading Taiwan. Not to mention what harm it would do to the overall world economy.

Yes exactly. Who is currently supplying the impetous for all of their economic development? The United States and the EU both of which would, at the least, call on sanctions of China and Chinese goods or actually prepare a full scale war against China.

If a war between the US and China became a reality it would almost certainly end in a US victory. Chinese naval assets are mostly old Soviet equipment which wouldn't stand a chance against American naval forces rendering an amphibious invasion of Taiwan complete suicide if US forces are in the area.

On the ground it would be much different. While we have the more advanced technology they have a distinct advantage in numbers at the beginning of the war, outnumbering the entire US Army by over 2:1 not including National Guard and Civil Defence elements. It would be a hard fought war probably on the scale of WWII in size and scope although help from other Asian nations plus EU countries would help the American side if Russia stays neutral in any conflict.

In a nuclear engagement any Chinese officials would know that he is screwed, utterly and completely. The Chinese have about 35 missles capable of reaching targets in the continental US as compared to the over 1500 such devices in the American arsenal. Which basically means that any Chinese leader would have to succomb to the fact that if he launches his weapons his entire country would be reduced to radioactive slag, a very strong deterent against the starting of a nuclear war.

Russian involvement would be key. While I see them as mostly staying neutral in the conflict it is likely that they would actually join the American side due to a mutual distrust between China and Russia. India would also be a major factor. Again there are unresolved conflicts between those two powers that may force the Indians into the American camp, as well as the spectre of a militarily dominant Asian superpower in China dominating the subcontinent.

Lastly why in the name of hell do you think China will attack Taiwan in 2006? They have no reason to and unless Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao have been smoking crack cocaine for the last year and a half would not commit themselves to what basically accounts for national suicide.

They said they were going to invade Taiwan in the near future to regain what they had lost, and 2006 was the predicted year by most people.

You must not be that old Inks. They've been saying things like that since 1949. You need to take the Chinese governments statements with about a boatload full of salt. You wouldn't trust them if they said, "we have no political prisoners! They're in jail for serious crimes but we still treat them as well as any other country. No human rights abuses here." Why trust them if they said they would attack and reclaim Taiwan in a year.

They never said when--that was just the general prediction.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Curious as to what yall think.  I say Yes/2006, maybe 7 if they have to deal with NK 1st.

You really can't wait for an all-out war in the Far East, can you?

I just want to see those countries corrected; if that means war, then absolutely.

The question is "if". War would cause more problems than it would solve.

No, war would eliminate it.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Curious as to what yall think.  I say Yes/2006, maybe 7 if they have to deal with NK 1st.

You really can't wait for an all-out war in the Far East, can you?

I just want to see those countries corrected; if that means war, then absolutely.

The question is "if". War would cause more problems than it would solve.

No, war would eliminate it.

How?

The same way "bad" Japan was eliminated.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Curious as to what yall think.  I say Yes/2006, maybe 7 if they have to deal with NK 1st.

You really can't wait for an all-out war in the Far East, can you?

I just want to see those countries corrected; if that means war, then absolutely.

The question is "if". War would cause more problems than it would solve.

No, war would eliminate it.

War is a magical pill that has no adverse side effects?  Oh golly, I hope someone declares war on *me.*

But seriously, war causes the death of innocents and much suffering.   Invading to eliminate suffering isn't always to the best solution.

But invading to eliminate our elimination is.  If they take Taiwan, and just keep taking free countries, ultimately, we're next.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

No, war would eliminate it.

How?

I assume he's using the war in Iraq as a point of reference; as we all know, freedom and democracy have blossomed across the Middle East since 2003. Why wouldn't that work in China?

China is not a religiously divided country.  They all pretty much agree that Comm. is bad for them, and those who want it would be killed fighting in the war.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Curious as to what yall think.  I say Yes/2006, maybe 7 if they have to deal with NK 1st.

You really can't wait for an all-out war in the Far East, can you?

I just want to see those countries corrected; if that means war, then absolutely.

The question is "if". War would cause more problems than it would solve.

No, war would eliminate it.

How?

The same way "bad" Japan was eliminated.

Not all conflicts are the same, and it would be a gross oversimplification to suggest otherwise. Modern China cannot in any way be compared to Japan in the 1930s/1940s, ditto North Korea, not to mention the knock-on effects it would cause. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked on the back of a six-year long conflict - an attack on China, Taiwan or NK now would actually cause another lengthy conflict (and one which may be considerably more damaging, given that nuclear weapons now are several times more powerful than what landed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki). I could go on and on, but point being, there is a myriad of differences.

My point was not that they;re the same.  My point was that bad countries can be eliminated and replaced with good ones.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

My point was not that they;re the same.  My point was that bad countries can be eliminated and replaced with good ones.

Dude, have you been ingesting illicit pharmasuiticals; been playing the latest incarnation of trolleye; or are you really that clueless?

Countries don't suddenly fall in line with your views just because you blow stuff up (just ask al-queda).   

Oh come on, where the heck did I ever say that?  Don't act like I'm an idiot.

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If China invaded Taiwan and we went to war, teh world would back us (most of it--all of our allies).