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Joe Biden 2020
BushOklahoma
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« on: July 24, 2006, 12:30:47 PM »
« edited: July 24, 2006, 12:36:09 PM by BushOklahoma »

God, jfern, you're just as bad as those idiots from my state who vote solely on abortion.  STOP BEING A SINGLE-ISSUE VOTER!


Regardless of the Iraq war, do you want a "Democrat" who gives appaluse to a terrible Bush speech and then kisses him. Do you want a "Democrat" who talks about how we need private accounts? Do you want a "Democrat" who almost  costs Democrats control of the Senate by running for re-election to the Senate the same time he runs for VP? Do you want a "Democrat" who constantly bashes on liberals, and is endorsed by Hannity, Coulter and other wingnuts? Do you want a "Democrat" who sharply criticized a President of his own party for lying about a blow job, while didn't criticize a President of the opposite party for lying about everything else.

Absolutely!!!!!!  Sean Hannity is an advocate for a better America while his sidekick Alan Colmes and his liberal friends are advocates for the execution of all conservative Republicans. 

Just to throw for Kerosene on the fire, lets throw in a VERY GOOD pro-war talk show host, the incredible RUSH LIMBAUGH.

I do agree with you on one point, Ann Coutler is a bit too radical and spouts off without regard for courtesy.  I do think she is an embarrassment to the Republican party, but as for Sean and Rush and Joe, they are not only not an embarrassment to the Republican party, but they are three of the best Americans in the media and in Washington.
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Joe Biden 2020
BushOklahoma
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2006, 06:28:19 PM »

rather than a true conservative dem like Ben Nelson or Mark Pryor... it's odd I'll give it that.

Ben Nelson represents Nebraska. Mark Pryor represents Arkansas. A "liberal" Democrat would fail miserably in those Republican states, which is why the left supports them; they're better than nothing.

Actually, it's much simpler than that. Joe Lieberman goes out of his way to go on national TV and criticize other Democrats. He sucks up to the Bush whenever he can. He's a media whore. He undermines the party whenever he gets the chance.

Neither Ben Nelson or Mark Pryor criticize their party. They make our party stronger. Joe Lieberman makes the party weaker.

I wish people would understand this. It's really not a hard concept.

Dissent in both parties is great for this country.  Without it, we would have a bunch of Senators and Congressmen being robots of their party's leaders.  I welcome the John McCains, the Joe Liebermans, the Chuck Hagels of the country, they actually keep the rest of the country from going insane with two vastly different parties with little or no link between the two in the center of the spectrum.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2006, 08:00:23 AM »
« Edited: July 25, 2006, 08:01:57 AM by BushOklahoma »

What is really wrong with Lieberman isn't specifically his support for the war or various other right-wing positions, it is that he is too friendly with the other side.  Republicans are the enemy, and until Democrats get serious about treating them as such, they will not gain power.

From what I have heard of him I much prefer Menendez.  We need to attack, attack, attack.  Leiberman is useless for this purpose, so who needs him?

The Republicans aren't all bad just like the Democrats aren't all good and vice versa.  The Republicans are NOT the enemy.  Rather those who oppose the Almighty God of the Christians are the enemy.

I am a part of the religious right and I am going to bring this out and tell the truth.  CHRISTIANITY is the ONLY religion that will survive.  All of these other religions, such as mormonism, islam, buddhism, hinduism, etc, will all one day be eliminated and The Lord God Jehovah will reign victorius.  I don't mean to preach, but I can't be silent on the truth, either.  No offense, but Republicans seem to have more of the Biblical values than do Democrats.  The Bible is pro-life, the Republicans are pro-life, the Bible is anti-gay-marriage, so are Republicans,.  The Bible supports the death penalty, so do most Republicans.  I could go on and on and on, but I'll let everybody else figure it out.  Thats why I believe the majority of America is trending right rather than left.  Conservatism is our real future.

I'm not saying all Democrats are bad.  There are some Democrats who agree 100% with the Bible, too.  However, it seems that when people tout the first amendment freedom of religion, they mean any religion but Christianity.

I'll get off my soap box, now, but it just irks me why people don't care an inkling about God's Word sometimes and say that one party is horrible.

One last thing, I'd rather eat lunch with Jerry Falwell than Howard Dean.
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Joe Biden 2020
BushOklahoma
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2006, 05:41:12 PM »

Bill Clinton has endorsed Joe Lieberman.  The report was on Fox News "Special Report with Brit Hume" at 5:30 pm CDT.

The Lamont supporters still aren't scared.

It still remains to be seen whether Connecticut Democrats love Bill Clinton more or hate Joe Lieberman more.
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Joe Biden 2020
BushOklahoma
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2006, 06:00:24 PM »

On the same show "Special Report with Brit Hume" on Fox News, they were saying in a 3-party race with Lieberman as Independent that Lieberman would manhandle Lamont and Shlies, 51-27-9.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2006, 10:06:14 PM »

And I'm not one to tell people to change their avatar colors, but I'll definitely have to say so to BushOklahoma after that post awhile back. As if his name wasn't enough.

The reason I don't change my avatar color is while I am a registered Republican, I'm not so hard-core that I hate Democrats.  I have voted for Democrats in the past (i.e. John Kerry) and am planning to vote for a Democrat in November 2006 (Brad Henry).  As my political matrix says I am a social conservative and an fiscally left-of-center.  I consider myself to fall in between John McCain and Bill Frist on the conservative scale.

My posts in the past may have shown otherwise, but I just don't like vast left-wing conspiratists.  The moderate and even slightly liberal Democrats are okay.

I voted for John Kerry in 2004, because at the time I thought like many of the people in this forum, I thought we needed a fresh face to handle the war in Iraq.

Even though he's a staunch liberal, I still kinda like John Kerry, though I won't vote for him again if he runs, and I also like his former running mate, John Edwards.  He's a liberal, but I don't think he's as hard-core as, say, Ted Kennedy or Hillary Clinton, or Barbara Boxer, etc.
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Joe Biden 2020
BushOklahoma
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2006, 10:31:08 PM »

The reason I don't change my avatar color is while I am a registered Republican, I'm not so hard-core that I hate Democrats.  I have voted for Democrats in the past (i.e. John Kerry) and am planning to vote for a Democrat in November 2006 (Brad Henry).  As my political matrix says I am a social conservative and an fiscally left-of-center.  I consider myself to fall in between John McCain and Bill Frist on the conservative scale.

It's good to see you sporting that red avatar.  There is a healthy moderate Democratic contingent here, including Preston Caldwell, Frodo, myself, Dave Hawk, and josh22 (who switched parties recently).  You're probably more conservative than I am on some issues, but it's refreshing to see some moderates from the Sooner State.  Perhaps you'll re-register as a Democrat someday. 

I too hope Henry wins a second term this November.  He and Dave Freudenthal are the best things we have going for us in the Plains states.

Thanks, Senator,

I will actually have a chance to re-register in late August or early September as I will be moving to Northwestern Oklahoma in middle August.  I can't re-register until August 23 at the earliest due to our runoff on August 22, but I will do it in late August or early September.  Definitely before registration closes in early October in advance of the November election.  I have been pondering a switch, formally, to the Democratic party, but I still haven't made up my mind, yet.  I'll let you know, though, as soon as I do.  I like both parties so its a hard decision.  The majority of my family are staunch Republicans, but I'm quietly the rebel of the group as I'm a little to their left on some things.  They think I am a staunch conservative Republican, and I don't want to come out and tell them, because I like talking politics with them.  The good thing is, they don't have to know, as I have the freedom of political affiliation in our Constitution.
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