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minionofmidas
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« on: July 31, 2006, 04:34:32 PM »

Frankfurt Ward populations over time...
no 1880 1890   1905   1910   1925   1939   1950   1961   1970   1987   2005
1   8242 9337   7976   7866   6831   4972     335   2145   4847   3692   3430
2   8537 9724   7461   7068   6893   4701     848   1863 merged into 1
3   7436 8368   7906   8025   7587   5599     242   2004 merged into 1
4   3943 3920   3619   3615   3008   2760     703     566     331     167   2261
5   7319 7658   6121   5938   5199   5029   2300   2244   1480     802 merged into 4
6   9207 9699   7400   6696   5738   5544   1605   2548   2170   1620 merged into 4
7   6819 8330   8536   8133   7248   6741   2830   3720   3014   2059   1542
8   5779 5837   5658   6247   5591   6286   1135   3068   2737   2426   2357
9   1847 2257 11190 11420   9893   9965   7452   6426   4972   3807   2431
10 4137 5150   5460   5491   5871   6465   5167   6957   5688   3809   3393
11 3133 3740   3877   3934   4467   4431   2528   4917   3959   3063   2863
12 5494 7573   9031   9188   9247   9597   8456 10728   9340   7027   6272
13 4845 7925   8797   8695   8891   9049   5028   8653   7557   6018   5474
14 5829 6976   8512   9333   9284   9733   5207   8449   8307   6333   7337
15 2290 4874 19571 21218 18900 21864 17983 19204 16893 13625 13923 
16   198   475 12455 25015 29433 30757 21006 31194 26374 20369 18547
17   422 1262   4578   5320   6499   6810   5536   8007   6137   4331   4344
18 1970 5094   6701   7244   7832   8392   8828   9850   7288   5776   5439
19 1484 3373   5152   5627   5477   7756   5700 10553   8691   7168   7619
20 5326 7260   9189   9495 12175 13929 10637 17740 14620 11312 10513
21 2302 5222 13729 16229 16988 15384 14892 15006 13548 10834   9626
22   292   344 18529 21047 19397 17369 21219 19366 15087 12325 11092
23 5105 9476 11995 12065 10950   9611   7550   8767   7214   5931   4993
24 3190 4199   5628   6117   6042   5399   6278   4882   3874   3402   2911
25 3296 5561   8668 14046 16805 17155 12422 20590 18402 15450 14190
26   824 1176   1792   1873 10302 11407 10541 12053 11728   8965   8503
27 5195 6169   9855 12479 14378 12661 14993 17850 15056 12022 11258
28 2657 3238   5944   8125 10968 18888 16499 15371 12823 11287 10505
29   997 1210   1130   1125     941     854     750   1305   1347   2359   2445
30 4377 4856   5109   5245   4748   3844   2460   2414   5134   4138   3564
31 5555 6293   6761   6795   6282   4979   3624   3437 merged into 30
32 4293 7046 20541 25742 28270 33687 43098 46305 40082 35758 35668
33 4491 6398 10903 10968 10769 11093   9569 14473 13661 12170 13517
34                   11534 14327 14530 12846   8978 14581 13147 10027   9713
35                   10614 11613 12657 10813   6012   9520   8365   6798   6767
36                   11090 14054 15767 13745 14568 15295 12878 16393 10492
37                     9747 10433 12900 13678 17926 25224 24492 20728 20698
38                     8766   8943   8610   7540   4897   8252   9845 11286 11719
39                     3108   3214   3183   3511   5268   7655   9043   9896   9195
40                              10068 12529 11406 12850 17623 19682 17207 16385
41                                2050   1867   2476   2352   2434   4004   6374   6607
42                                1413   1373 10863 14278 13184 16160 15315 15317
43                                5729   6248   9656 10685 14831 17691 15231 16335
44                                2695   5331   8741 13644 16861 17960 17160 21735
45                                3567   4851   7026 10781 17016 15811 13618 13324
46                                3445   5657   9067 13879 28073 25565 24110 24748
47                                2642   2456   4241   4355   7270   9107   8015 10023
48                                1026   1415   1712   2304   2253 16933 14062 14412
49                                1261   2473   3476   5928   8814 10253 10533 12399
50                                  441     454     608     924   1030   1472   2046   3149
51                                                      5810   7383   8981 11166   8250   8606
52                                                      3605   4606   4053   6398   6722   6716
53                                                    10303 13842 14016 19820 19937 20684
54                                                      5490   6421 12805 13023 11521 11024
55                                                      6892 10961 12137 12211   9264   9509
56                                                      8326 10191 10086 13981 14517 16957
57                                                      3587   4648   5539   5828   4551   5633
58                                                      4736   5980   4689   4020   3115   3598
59                                                      7634   9849   6114   4536   3759   3521
60                                                      4952   6624 10270 13363 11273 10712
61                                                      4755   6093 12376 12008   9508   9538
62                                                      7713   8741 16961 15466 12872 13550
63                                                      5298   6549   9153 13254 14081 15385
64                                                                                       2619   3448   4242
65                                                                                       2851   3906   5940
66                                                                                       3043   3802   3692
67                                                                                       6435 10591 11313
68                                                                                     14722 15354 16727

Darn. This got pretty long. Took way too long, too.
Ahem. Notes.
Obviously numerous of these have been subdivided since, I just gave total figures for their original areas.
Wards were introduced in 1890, some helpful soul recalculated the 1880 and 1885 Census results for the new ward boundaries though.
Anything from Ward 34 represents areas incorporated after 1890, usually one ward for each former municipality. Exceptions: Bockenheim = 34-36, Fechenheim = 51 and 52, Griesheim = 54 and 55, Höchst city as existed 1920-1928 = 57-62, former area of Höchst = 57-59.
Later incorporations included from first census after incorporation, except the 1970s incorporations where I included the 1970 figures as well.

No good map right now, I'll post one when I find one, but here's the original numbering scheme:
1-3 Old Town
4-8 New Town (parts of which were built up as early as the 13th century, so much for "new"), clockwise from west
9-14 (inner layer) and 15-26 (outer layer) areas within city limits but outside old walls, on the north bank of the river, clockwise from west
27-29 Old Bornheim (22-25 are also partly on territory formerly belonging to Bornheim, which was incorporated into Frankfurt in 1877, but were built up mostly from Frankfurt)
30, 31 Old Sachsenhausen (medieval suburb across the river from the Old Town)
32, 33 as 9-26, but on the Sachsenhausen bank.

There's probably very little you might think to ask that I can't answer (except for the obvious question of why do I find all this even remotely interesting. I have no answer to that one.), so fire away.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2006, 05:06:57 PM »

(medieval suburb across the river from the Old Town)

Like a bigger Frankwell then? (hey, I feel like being absurdly parochial today). Any gentrification there? (odd thing about gentrification in Frankwell is that (as far as population goes) it hasn't really touched the core of the Little Borough much yet; the area right down by the river is still working class).
O/c Frankwell isn't anywhere near being big enough to have it's own ward these days; and the population has shrunk to the extent that it doesn't even slightly impact on the politics of the ward it's in Sad
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2006, 11:47:20 AM »

Old Sachsenhausen is ... different. (It's original name is now used for the much vaster area of wards 30-33. While from 1891 to ? [but after 1933 and before 1961] 30 & 31 were sometimes collectively referred to as Inner Sachsenhausen and 32 & 33 as Outer Sachsenhausen, nowadays 30 + 32 I, II, and IV + 33 I is sometimes referred to as Sachsenhausen North, and 32 III, V, and VI + 33 II as Sachsenhausen South...) Because the two are hard to tear apart, I will discuss the whole of Sachsenhausen here, with special attention to Old Sachsenhausen.
While Old Sachsenhausen was certainly a working class area in the 19th and early 20th century (not as much so as the Old Town itself though, which by the early 20th was a slum, pure and simple. 39% KPD in July 32. Grin ) it was never really an industrial area. Down to the late 18th century, most inhabitants were small-scale farmers who just lived behind city walls, but tended fields and gardens outside. In 1877, all of the small remaining number of professional river fishermen lived in Old Sachsenhausen. The area just southeast and east of Old Sachsenhausen (in Ward 33) certainly had some early industrial development - the slaughterhouse was here, the breweries still are, at a somewhat larger distance - and some of the oldest council housing in Frankfurt as well. Ward 32 was mostly middle class early on (and nowadays has some 30s and 50s built estates, as well as some of the poshest areas of Frankfurt).
Ward 33 as a whole has certainly gentrified a lot - but this is (largely, not entirely) because back in, say 1905, the bulk of the population still lived very close to Old Sachsenhausen in the old working class part, the South of the district was still nearly devoid of population. When that was built up, it was not as a working class area. Meanwhile, apart from the normal trend to lower pop. density in inner city areas that still remain densely populated afterwards in normal terms (look at 12,13,20-24, ie the Nordend, since 1961), the area also suffered heavy bombing damage - and more to the point, parts of it weren't rebuilt as residential area as all.
Old Sachsenhausen's frame houses just next door, meanwhile, survived the war relatively little scathed... but not 1960s and 70s city planning.
Here's a map:

Modern ward 30 is the area is the area north of Schifferstraße (hitting the river outside the map) and west of Dreieichstraße. That area is now quite diverse. In the Southwest (near Schifferstr.) and in the far NE (Frankensteiner Straße) you got late 19th/early 20th century houses. Needless to say, these areas vote Green these days (can't say about the NE one for sure, of course, as it can't dominate a precinct). In the center, you get postwar housing - 1950s working class, highly immigrant, tiny flats around Elisabethenstraße and Paradiesgasse; and 1960s, not-sure-how-posh-but-certainly-very-geriatric, as well as posh 1980s, around Walter-Kolb-Straße, which was hacked through the area in the 60s to make the area more easily traversable by car, and on the Sachsenhäuser Ufer.
In between them, you get several remaining odd nooks of ancient Sachsenhausen houses - around the western one of the churches, around the roads just marked as 1 and 2... and most of all, the relatively large area here marked with purple roads (to signify a pedestrian zone). Thing is, not that many people live there anymore - although some do. It's a big loud tourist trap swarming with pubs and nightclubs of every description, including a large number of traditional Frankfurt applewine places as well. Almost all of it in ancient, protected buildings... (My favorite ones are the tiny Drei Steuber, open tuesday to friday and run by two guys in their seventies, and the Eichkatzerl [Squirrel], both on Dreieichstraße). Anyways, when most people speak of Old Sachsenhausen these days, they're thinking exclusively of this area.
Oh yeah, right in the middle of that 1980s-built development, they left standing the Oldest surviving residential building in Frankfurt, from 1292 (not used residentially anymore, though).

The area now has three precincts, 300-01, 300-02 and 300-03. 01 is by the river, 02 combines the poor part and the tourist trap, 03 is the southwest.
01 always has the CDU's best result, 02 always has the lowest turnout and the SPD#s best result, and 03 always has the Greens' best result. They're not necessarily won by the respective party - that depends on how the election goes in general - although they frequently are.
Of course Old Sachsenhausen isn't big enough to affect the results of its State House constituency, or even of it's district council (which includes Oberrad and Niederrad [37 and 38] as well as all of Sachsenhausen), but... if we had fptp constituencies... if we had 93 fptp constituencies for Frankfurt#s city council rather than electing them all by pr, then Old Sachsenhausen plus the Northern parts of the former 33 (now 33 I) which the SPD still sort of dominates, could be one of these constituencies.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2006, 08:41:31 PM »

While Old Sachsenhausen was certainly a working class area in the 19th and early 20th century (not as much so as the Old Town itself though, which by the early 20th was a slum, pure and simple. 39% KPD in July 32. Grin ) it was never really an industrial area. Down to the late 18th century, most inhabitants were small-scale farmers who just lived behind city walls, but tended fields and gardens outside. In 1877, all of the small remaining number of professional river fishermen lived in Old Sachsenhausen. The area just southeast and east of Old Sachsenhausen (in Ward 33) certainly had some early industrial development - the slaughterhouse was here, the breweries still are, at a somewhat larger distance - and some of the oldest council housing in Frankfurt as well.

Interesting; there's actually a ward in Hereford (south of the river, obviously. St Martin's & Hinton; only ward in Hereford with a big Labour vote) which is home to quite a few agricultural labourers. This was even the case in 2001, but is even more so now. I think there are plans for more developments down there for the new immigrants to live in; as always with Hereford south of the river, these will be a long way away from any services (pretty much all of which are north of the river. There is just a single bridge between the two sides of the City).

Frankwell was a river port (dominated by the wool trade) and notorious slum. It eventually got newer industries in the 19th century, but not to the extent of Castle Foregate/Castlefields/Ditherington or Coleham.
The deindustrialisation of Frankwell was finally completed a few years ago, but there's still a bit in the other two areas mentioned.

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Being parochial again, the borough council in Shrewsbury knocked down an entire district of black and white buildings in the late '50's or early '60's. The concrete horrors built where they stood have now also been knocked down.

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Also interesting; nice to see the very old building survived.

Frankwell had been developing along the route of being a sort of alternative (in most senses of the word) commercial centre (the fact that it both a) floods a lot, and b) is a designated heritage area of some sort, makes tough work of residential development...), mainly in a small/"small" business sort of way (although the borough council moved it's headquarters to a new, and hideous, building in the area recently. It'll be a short move if Shropshire goes down the unitary road though; and most local politicians seem to favour that now). I say "had", because recent publicity for the district (ie; a double murder in a brothel, which managed to attract national media attention for a day or so) has been somewhat less than great for business.

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This is the ward which Frankwell is in:



Porthill, Kingsland and etc are the richest areas in Shrewsbury (and the School mentioned on the map is Shrewsbury School. Or Shrowsbury as those toffs pronounce it).
The Porthill ward has a population of 5,246. The core of Frankwell has a population of about 400.
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