Public Opinion Strategies: Lieberman(I) crushing his opposition

[Gustaf]

I am  saying a trend that Lieberman is winning not the percentage. And the same ARG that predicted Kerry would win OH, they have alot of credibility right.

Zogby said Kerry would win Tennessee, which is worse.

For the record, is this an internal poll, in the sense that it was paid for or ordered by the Lieberman campaign?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

But I think that this poll got it right that Lamont is in deep trouble.

[Adlai Stevenson]

You can think that but I agree with other posters that this poll should be ruled out of general trends in the Connecticut Senate race.  I will include it when I do another Senate Races Poll of Polls thread in early November.  However, I think the fact that its an Internal poll should speak for itself really. 

[ATFFL]

POS (despite the initials) is considered one of the best partisan polling firms.

Here is the poll.

It was done by both POS and Knickerbocker SKD, a solidly Democrat firm.

[Alcon]

POS (despite the initials) is considered one of the best partisan polling firms.

Here is the poll.

It was done by both POS and Knickerbocker SKD, a solidly Democrat firm.

I've never heard of Knickerbocker SKD (snicker), but if a Democratic poll and POS come together to take a poll, I'd usually trust it.  Then again, Connecticut is an odd case.

[Gustaf]

POS (despite the initials) is considered one of the best partisan polling firms.

Here is the poll.

It was done by both POS and Knickerbocker SKD, a solidly Democrat firm.

I've never heard of Knickerbocker SKD (snicker), but if a Democratic poll and POS come together to take a poll, I'd usually trust it.  Then again, Connecticut is an odd case.

POS is a very good firm, so if there is no (or less) reason to suspect bias, I'd trust this.

[Eraserhead]

POS (despite the initials) is considered one of the best partisan polling firms.

Here is the poll.

It was done by both POS and Knickerbocker SKD, a solidly Democrat firm.

I've never heard of Knickerbocker SKD (snicker), but if a Democratic poll and POS come together to take a poll, I'd usually trust it.  Then again, Connecticut is an odd case.

POS is a very good firm, so if there is no (or less) reason to suspect bias, I'd trust this.

Well somebody is way off. Its either Rasmussen and ARG or this poll and Zogby. I'll trust the big Ras. for now at least.

[Gustaf]

POS (despite the initials) is considered one of the best partisan polling firms.

Here is the poll.

It was done by both POS and Knickerbocker SKD, a solidly Democrat firm.

I've never heard of Knickerbocker SKD (snicker), but if a Democratic poll and POS come together to take a poll, I'd usually trust it.  Then again, Connecticut is an odd case.

POS is a very good firm, so if there is no (or less) reason to suspect bias, I'd trust this.

Well somebody is way off. Its either Rasmussen and ARG or this poll and Zogby. I'll trust the big Ras. for now at least.

Btw, I don't remember if I did ask you about Lynch. I take it you're a big fan?

[Eraserhead]

POS (despite the initials) is considered one of the best partisan polling firms.

Here is the poll.

It was done by both POS and Knickerbocker SKD, a solidly Democrat firm.

I've never heard of Knickerbocker SKD (snicker), but if a Democratic poll and POS come together to take a poll, I'd usually trust it.  Then again, Connecticut is an odd case.

POS is a very good firm, so if there is no (or less) reason to suspect bias, I'd trust this.

Well somebody is way off. Its either Rasmussen and ARG or this poll and Zogby. I'll trust the big Ras. for now at least.

Btw, I don't remember if I did ask you about Lynch. I take it you're a big fan?

Yes indeed. Eraserhead is easily my favorite picture of all time.

[PrisonerOfHope]

Outlier provided by a Republican pollster. I don't doubt Lieberman is ahead right now but I don't take this seriously.

They must be talking to them poll cats.
Bush/LIEberman poll made up

[The Vorlon]

New Poll: Connecticut Senator by Public Opinion Strategies on 2006-08-29

Summary: D: 35%, R: 4%, U: 0%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Public Opinion Strategies is normally a GOP poll, but they are doing work for Lieberman this election.

Two points about POS....

#1 - An expectionally strong firm... arguably the best polling firm in the nation. Bill McInturff (their founder) is defacto the official GOP pollster..  They poll for 17 or 18 senators, and a huge chunk of the House. - In the 2004 Presidential race they were a (very) close second to Mason Dixon in overall accuracy.

#2 - This is a "combat" polling firm... They do push polls, "pr" polls, anything and everything needed to win a race... to discribe these guys as "hyper partisan" just isn't strong enough....  I have 100% confidence that the "real" POS numbers are very accurate. 

There is just no way of knowing if these are the "real" numbers.

[Alcon]

Vorlon,

I'm a bit confused.  POS is a push pollster, but very accurate?   Do you mean that they sometimes release very accurate polls, and then do push polls, which are indistinguishable?

[The Vorlon]

Vorlon,

I'm a bit confused.  POS is a push pollster, but very accurate?   Do you mean that they sometimes release very accurate polls, and then do push polls, which are indistinguishable?

The "internal" numbers, the real, honest to Pete, "Dear Mr. Client this is our best estimate of the race right now" numbers provided by POS are as good at it gets.  This is an exceptionally good firm, arguably the best firm in the nation.

For the "real" numbers POS is utterly "by the book" an RDD quota called EPC sample corrected to a rolling average Party ID ratio, done by real, well paid human operators, using a big sample.

The numbers they release externally, ie the ones designed to try to change the race, create a buzz, generate media, ie polls whose function is to change the political reality, as oppose to measure the political reality will say whatever POS feels will best serve their client - reality be damned...  If it takes a push poll, a blip, and small sample, tarot cards, a ouiji board, a strange turnout assumption to generate that 'desired' number... so be it

[Gustaf]

POS (despite the initials) is considered one of the best partisan polling firms.

Here is the poll.

It was done by both POS and Knickerbocker SKD, a solidly Democrat firm.

I've never heard of Knickerbocker SKD (snicker), but if a Democratic poll and POS come together to take a poll, I'd usually trust it.  Then again, Connecticut is an odd case.

POS is a very good firm, so if there is no (or less) reason to suspect bias, I'd trust this.

Well somebody is way off. Its either Rasmussen and ARG or this poll and Zogby. I'll trust the big Ras. for now at least.

Btw, I don't remember if I did ask you about Lynch. I take it you're a big fan?

Yes indeed. Eraserhead is easily my favorite picture of all time.

I've only seen Blue Velvet, Straight Story and Lost Highway, but I loved all of them. I
ve been meaning to watch Eraserhead too.

[CARLHAYDEN]

New Poll: Connecticut Senator by Public Opinion Strategies on 2006-08-29

Summary: D: 35%, R: 4%, U: 0%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Public Opinion Strategies is normally a GOP poll, but they are doing work for Lieberman this election.

Two points about POS....

#1 - An expectionally strong firm... arguably the best polling firm in the nation. Bill McInturff (their founder) is defacto the official GOP pollster..  They poll for 17 or 18 senators, and a huge chunk of the House. - In the 2004 Presidential race they were a (very) close second to Mason Dixon in overall accuracy.

#2 - This is a "combat" polling firm... They do push polls, "pr" polls, anything and everything needed to win a race... to discribe these guys as "hyper partisan" just isn't strong enough....  I have 100% confidence that the "real" POS numbers are very accurate. 

There is just no way of knowing if these are the "real" numbers.

Good to see you back!

I do have a question for you.

Has Rasmussen significantly increased the ratio in weighting in favor of the Democrats in his polls?

His results are a little bit weird to me.

[Alcon]

The "internal" numbers, the real, honest to Pete, "Dear Mr. Client this is our best estimate of the race right now" numbers provided by POS are as good at it gets.  This is an exceptionally good firm, arguably the best firm in the nation.

For the "real" numbers POS is utterly "by the book" an RDD quota called EPC sample corrected to a rolling average Party ID ratio, done by real, well paid human operators, using a big sample.

The numbers they release externally, ie the ones designed to try to change the race, create a buzz, generate media, ie polls whose function is to change the political reality, as oppose to measure the political reality will say whatever POS feels will best serve their client - reality be damned...  If it takes a push poll, a blip, and small sample, tarot cards, a ouiji board, a strange turnout assumption to generate that 'desired' number... so be it

So, in summary, the bastards are holding out on us, and we shouldn't trust 'em? 

[Eraserhead]

POS (despite the initials) is considered one of the best partisan polling firms.

Here is the poll.

It was done by both POS and Knickerbocker SKD, a solidly Democrat firm.

I've never heard of Knickerbocker SKD (snicker), but if a Democratic poll and POS come together to take a poll, I'd usually trust it.  Then again, Connecticut is an odd case.

POS is a very good firm, so if there is no (or less) reason to suspect bias, I'd trust this.

Well somebody is way off. Its either Rasmussen and ARG or this poll and Zogby. I'll trust the big Ras. for now at least.

Btw, I don't remember if I did ask you about Lynch. I take it you're a big fan?

Yes indeed. Eraserhead is easily my favorite picture of all time.

I've only seen Blue Velvet, Straight Story and Lost Highway, but I loved all of them. I
ve been meaning to watch Eraserhead too.

Cool. Check it out. If you like those other ones, Eraserhead will blow your mind. Elephant Man is another good Lynch film but Eraserhead is by far my favorite.

[adam]

Look on the main poll page it say Bluegrass poll Schlesinger in the lead.

LOL. Oh my god that poll has me rolling on the floor. Go Gold! Go Gold!

Well....that polling firm has lost any positive reputation it may have had.

[Eraserhead]

Look on the main poll page it say Bluegrass poll Schlesinger in the lead.

LOL. Oh my god that poll has me rolling on the floor. Go Gold! Go Gold!

Well....that polling firm has lost any positive reputation it may have had.

It turns out it was a fake poll. Somebody felt the need to brighten all four Schleshinger supporters days.

[adam]

Look on the main poll page it say Bluegrass poll Schlesinger in the lead.

LOL. Oh my god that poll has me rolling on the floor. Go Gold! Go Gold!

Well....that polling firm has lost any positive reputation it may have had.

It turns out it was a fake poll. Somebody felt the need to brighten all four Schleshinger supporters days.

That makes sense, they are probably the most depressed people on Earth...perhaps next to John Faso supporters.

[Eraserhead]

Look on the main poll page it say Bluegrass poll Schlesinger in the lead.

LOL. Oh my god that poll has me rolling on the floor. Go Gold! Go Gold!

Well....that polling firm has lost any positive reputation it may have had.

It turns out it was a fake poll. Somebody felt the need to brighten all four Schleshinger supporters days.

That makes sense, they are probably the most depressed people on Earth...perhaps next to John Faso supporters.

At least Faso has about seven supporters.