Offical Massachusetts Democratic Gubernatorial Primary thread

[TheresNoMoney]

I really, really hope that Cuellar runs against Cornyn in 2008 for Senate.

He will lose, and then we can get a real Democrat into his seat in Congress.

[Democratic Hawk]

Was never bothered about who'd win this primary, as long as it's a Democratic pick-up come Fall

Dave

No DINOs for you to endorse like Cuellar?

Quite . Then this is Massachussetts not Texas. I'm a pragmatist. And when I think of Cueller I think of a Texas Democrat who has the potential to be a statewide candidate one day

Dave

Yeah, it's real hard to win an general election as a Democrat in Texas when no one else is running.

What I meant to say is that I supported Cueller because I see him as being a viable statewide candidate in Texas one day. Any Democrat can be a statewide candidate, whether they can win statewide in Texas is another question and I think Cueller could

Dave

[TheresNoMoney]

Any Democrat can be a statewide candidate, whether they can win statewide in Texas is another question and I think Cueller could

I really hope he does.

In my opinion, no Democrat can win statewide in Texas.

[Democratic Hawk]

I really, really hope that Cuellar runs against Cornyn in 2008 for Senate.

He will lose, and then we can get a real Democrat into his seat in Congress.

Define a real Democrat? A Democrat does not have to be some uber-left liberal dove, you know . The party would be much stronger if it was not perceived as being so

Dave

[TheresNoMoney]

Define a real Democrat? A Democrat does not have to be some uber-left liberal dove, you know

Good lord man, it has nothing to do with being dovish/hawkish! A real Democrat is someone who votes in the best interests of the working man and the middle class.

Cuellar is absolutely horrible on economic and trade issues. He is the top corporate Democrat in the House. No Democrat does more to screw the working man than Henry Cuellar.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

What I meant to say is that I supported Cueller because I see him as being a viable statewide candidate in Texas one day. Any Democrat can be a statewide candidate, whether they can win statewide in Texas is another question and I think Cueller could

Dave

Two problems
1. Cuellar ran as a Democrat because only a Democrat can get elected in that district
2. Chet Edwards manages to win in a much more Republican area of Texas (went 70% for Bush in 2004), and is more liberal.

As for SamSpade's comments, this was all before the court changed the districts, so they're not at all relevant.

I really, really hope that Cuellar runs against Cornyn in 2008 for Senate.

He will lose, and then we can get a real Democrat into his seat in Congress.

Define a real Democrat? A Democrat does not have to be some uber-left liberal dove, you know . The party would be much stronger if it was not perceived as being so

Dave

 that sh**t, this party would be much stronger if it didn't have "Democrats" like Cuellar backstabbing it at every chance.

[Sam Spade]

I really, really hope that Cuellar runs against Cornyn in 2008 for Senate.

He will lose, and then we can get a real Democrat into his seat in Congress.

Not gonna happen, though it's a nice thought.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Cuellar voted to permanantly repeal the estate tax. Explain to me how he gives one rats asses about anyone his rich buddies like Bush. Cuellar is why 218 Democrats isn't enough, ing DINOs.

Dave Hawk just wishes to undermine the Democratic party.

[TheresNoMoney]

Not gonna happen, though it's a nice thought.

You're right, Cuellar is probably too much of a coward to run statewide against a Republican.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Not gonna happen, though it's a nice thought.

You're right, Cuellar is probably too much of a coward to run statewide against a Republican.

Well, he could always run as a Republican. He's really the most likely Democrat to switch parties in Congress. Even Ben Nelson and Gene Taylor seem more solid.

[Sam Spade]

Define a real Democrat? A Democrat does not have to be some uber-left liberal dove, you know

Good lord man, it has nothing to do with being dovish/hawkish! A real Democrat is someone who votes in the best interests of the working man and the middle class.

Cuellar is absolutely horrible on economic and trade issues. He is the top corporate Democrat in the House. No Democrat does more to screw the working man than Henry Cuellar.

His free trade votes represent the views along the border of South Texas.  Look at the other votes of the South Texas border Democrats.

[Sam Spade]

What I meant to say is that I supported Cueller because I see him as being a viable statewide candidate in Texas one day. Any Democrat can be a statewide candidate, whether they can win statewide in Texas is another question and I think Cueller could

Dave

Two problems
1. Cuellar ran as a Democrat because only a Democrat can get elected in that district
2. Chet Edwards manages to win in a much more Republican area of Texas (went 70% for Bush in 2004), and is more liberal.

As for SamSpade's comments, this was all before the court changed the districts, so they're not at all relevant.

How are they not relevant?  The past is not relevant, not the future.

Chet Edwards wins because of his regional ties and because the Republicans over the past few elections have nominated total right-wing nuts (worse than Downwithdaleft).

[Democratic Hawk]

Define a real Democrat? A Democrat does not have to be some uber-left liberal dove, you know

Good lord man, it has nothing to do with being dovish/hawkish! A real Democrat is someone who votes in the best interests of the working man and the middle class.

Cuellar is absolutely horrible on economic and trade issues. He is the top corporate Democrat in the House. No Democrat does more to screw the working man than Henry Cuellar.

His free trade votes represent the views along the border of South Texas.  Look at the other votes of the South Texas border Democrats.

And surprising as it may seem to the likes of fernie, congressmen are elected to represent the interests of their district

Dave

[TheresNoMoney]

Cuellar voted to permanantly repeal the estate tax.  

He's done a lot worse than that. He's voted for every "free" trade deal, voted for every tax cut for the rich, voted for the bankruptcy bill, voted for every piece of corporate welfare for the oil and pharmaceutical companies, and votes against every piece of lobbyist reform that's been out there.

He is absolutely horrible on economic and trade issues.

[WalterMitty]

this thread is about massachusetts.

[TheresNoMoney]

I still would love to see Cuellar run against Cornyn.

I would actually support him if he does. Get some balls Henry!!

[Sam Spade]

this thread is about massachusetts.

This has been an uber-successful thread hijack.

[TheresNoMoney]

I say Patrick wins the general by around 10%.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

this thread is about massachusetts.

Which means that there are probably no DINOs to bash.

[Democratic Hawk]

this thread is about massachusetts.

Well, it was until fernie popped up with my supporting Henry Cuellar after I happened to say I didn't mind who won the Massachussetts Democratic gubnatorial primary

Dave

[sethm0]

 Back to MA, I would like to point out that tonight Deval Patrick has won around half of the votes he will need to win in the general, perhaps more. Very impressive primary performance.

 This is assuming that turnout in the general is similar to 2002. The "perhaps more" part factors in Mihos.

[Rob]

Congrats to Deval Patrick on his primary win.

and for the record, I would love to see Cuellar lose to Cornyn.

[Rob]

Is there any real difference between Cuellar and a right-wing Republican, other than his nominal party tag? I really wouldn't give a damn who won in a Cornyn vs. Cuellar race- it's truly Tweedledum vs. Tweedledee. It would be nice to see him lose, though, because I don't like him and it would be possible to get a halfway decent Dem into his seat.

[Erc]

Not that I'd been following this at all, but I'd only seen Patrick bumper stickers around these parts.

Does anyone know where to find a town breakdown of the results?

[Democratic Hawk]

Does anyone know where to find a town breakdown of the results?

http://www.boston.com/news/special/politics/2006_elections/primary_results/dem_governor.html

Dave