Poland may face early elections

[Bono]

www.newsdaily.com/TopNews/UPI-1-20070718-13332300-bc-poland-elections.xml

Poland may face early elections

WARSAW, Poland, July 18 (UPI) -- Poland's prime minister said political disagreements between the parties in his ruling coalition may lead to early elections, Polish radio reported Wednesday.

Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski told reporters in Warsaw he could be forced to call early elections in November if tensions among coalition parties keep on undermining the work of his government.

Kaczynski said his leading Law and Justice party is to debate the election issue at its special meeting, since he is reluctant to lead the government under pressure from other coalition parties.

He offered no further details about the tensions, Polish Radio said.

Tensions between the coalition parties recently reached a climax when Kaczynski fired Deputy Prime Minister Andrzej Lepper over a corruption scandal. Lepper was agriculture minister and the leader of the populist Self Defense party.

Copyright 2007 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Wow.. good news at last.

[Colin]

Every other time someone has posted this its been a false alarm, so I wont be getting my hopes up just yet.

[kireev]

 July poll:

Civic Platform (PO) 31%
Law and Justice Party (PiS) 24%
Left and Democracy (LiD) 13%
Self-Defence of the Polish Republic (SRP) 5%
League of Polish Families (LPR) 3%
Peasant’s Party (PSL) 3%
   
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/16528

[Hash]

Good.

[Cubby]

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

[Colin]

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.

[merseysider]

Hopefully the Polish electorate will get rid of the mixture of crooks and cranks that have been 'governing' for the last few years.

Am I right in thinking that 'Left and Democracy' is the social-democratic former communist party?

[Colin]

Am I right in thinking that 'Left and Democracy' is the social-democratic former communist party?

Well it's a coalition led by the Democratic Left Alliance that includes about 5 different left and centre-left groups.

[Cubby]

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.

Are you serious!? They are the most socially conservative government in all of Europe, not counting Belarus, which is a freak exception at this point.

[Bono]

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.

Are you serious!? They are the most socially conservative government in all of Europe, not counting Belarus, which is a freak exception at this point.

He means Citizen's Platform.

[Colin]

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.

Are you serious!? They are the most socially conservative government in all of Europe, not counting Belarus, which is a freak exception at this point.

I was talking about Civic Platform which you labeled as conservative. League of Polish Families isn't conservative as well, it's an agrarian populist party with a twist of xenophobia.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

League of Polish Families isn't conservative as well, it's an agrarian populist party with a twist of xenophobia.

No, that would be Self Defense. League of Polish Families are the extreme right lunatics (with a twist of anti-semitism).

[Cubby]

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.

Are you serious!? They are the most socially conservative government in all of Europe, not counting Belarus, which is a freak exception at this point.

I was talking about Civic Platform which you labeled as conservative. League of Polish Families isn't conservative as well, it's an agrarian populist party with a twist of xenophobia.

Civic Platform is center-right, like the CDU (or maybe FDP?) in Germany. They are economic conservatives, not social ones. Civic Platform would be a big improvement over the current government, because they wouldn't be intentionally alienating all of Europe by their sheer stupidity (i.e. Law and Justice).

League of Polish Families is extremely socially conservative, which is what I meant. Their economic agenda is meaningless, they are quasi-fascists who should never be allowed into the Polish government.

No, that would be Self Defense. League of Polish Families are the extreme right lunatics (with a twist of anti-semitism).

What are the differences between the 2? They sound very similar, except that Self Defense is in the current coalition, and has a lot more seats in Parliament, so I'm guessing they aren't as crazy as the League.

[Colin]

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.

Are you serious!? They are the most socially conservative government in all of Europe, not counting Belarus, which is a freak exception at this point.

I was talking about Civic Platform which you labeled as conservative. League of Polish Families isn't conservative as well, it's an agrarian populist party with a twist of xenophobia.

Civic Platform is center-right, like the CDU (or maybe FDP?) in Germany. They are economic conservatives, not social ones. Civic Platform would be a big improvement over the current government, because they wouldn't be intentionally alienating all of Europe by their sheer stupidity (i.e. Law and Justice).

They're not Christian Democrats, most christian democrats in Poland vote PiS not PO, They have more in common, in my mind, with VVD in the Netherlands or Venestre in Denmark. Centre-right liberals not conservatives.

No, that would be Self Defense. League of Polish Families are the extreme right lunatics (with a twist of anti-semitism).

Ah, thanks for that I always get the two mixed up.

CUBBY: The difference is Self Defence is an agrarian populist party with a xenophobic twist and is mostly focused on rural issues, farmers rights, and social conservatives. League of Polish Families is far-right xenophobic racist party akin to Front National or those neo-Nazi parties in Germany.

[Bono]

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.

Are you serious!? They are the most socially conservative government in all of Europe, not counting Belarus, which is a freak exception at this point.

I was talking about Civic Platform which you labeled as conservative. League of Polish Families isn't conservative as well, it's an agrarian populist party with a twist of xenophobia.

Civic Platform is center-right, like the CDU (or maybe FDP?) in Germany. They are economic conservatives, not social ones. Civic Platform would be a big improvement over the current government, because they wouldn't be intentionally alienating all of Europe by their sheer stupidity (i.e. Law and Justice).

They're not Christian Democrats, most christian democrats in Poland vote PiS not PO, They have more in common, in my mind, with VVD in the Netherlands or Venestre in Denmark. Centre-right liberals not conservatives.

No, that would be Self Defense. League of Polish Families are the extreme right lunatics (with a twist of anti-semitism).

Ah, thanks for that I always get the two mixed up.

CUBBY: The difference is Self Defence is an agrarian populist party with a xenophobic twist and is mostly focused on rural issues, farmers rights, and social conservatives. League of Polish Families is far-right xenophobic racist party akin to Front National or those neo-Nazi parties in Germany.

Self Defense and LPF merged.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Sambroona (Self Defense) pulled out its ministers today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6932158.stm

[Silent Hunter]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6937385.stm

The Interior Minister has been sacked.

[minionofmidas]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6939241.stm

Looking ever better...