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« Reply #875 on: February 01, 2004, 12:47:31 am »

It was hard not to like Reagan's optimism even if you totally disagreed with his ideology.  As I remember, the economy was in the toilet and we had horrible setbacks in foreign policy in the late 70s.  At the time, America really did need that dose of optimism.  I'd say it was similar to the optimism FDR brought to America when he took over when America was in the depths of the Great Depression.
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« Reply #876 on: February 01, 2004, 12:52:09 am »
« Edited: February 01, 2004, 12:53:39 am by hughento »

Hoardes of French Canadians are amassing on the border, with plans to make all New Englanders go "Hor hor" in that annoying laff of theirs. Wilson Hubble, A resident of Caribou, ME, saw someone he described as "Tall, skinny and frenchie-lookin'". It is believed to be former Canadian Prime Minister, Jean Chretien. Gail Byrd of Niagara, NY, said "We always see 'em comin' over to the land of the free; but now they'm coming in ten times as much!"

America has long feared this day. Now that it is upon us, do as Clarke Mitchells of Ogdenburg, NY is planning to do. "Go shoot sum dang blasted froggy canucks".

(No offense to Canadians, or residents of the towns mentioned, btw Smiley)
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« Reply #877 on: February 01, 2004, 01:18:11 am »

This is weird.......I found more, and I vouch for NOTHING!

Look at this--

it says Reagan was blackmailed by Bush into getting named the VP, and was co-President, according to James Brady......(was this before or after he was shot??)

If anyone would know, Nancy Reagan would--R. told her everything.   Anyone remember what opinion she had of Bush, Sr? in her book?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?X52A24247

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« Reply #878 on: February 01, 2004, 07:23:52 am »

It was hard not to like Reagan's optimism even if you totally disagreed with his ideology.  As I remember, the economy was in the toilet and we had horrible setbacks in foreign policy in the late 70s.  At the time, America really did need that dose of optimism.  

Yeah, back in the seventies and very early eighties people would've thought the 2000-2001 'recession' was some kind of boom.  Now those were the days people had actual hard times.
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« Reply #879 on: February 01, 2004, 10:25:50 am »

No kidding.  Double didgit inflation, 7.6% unemployment, 18% interest rates..... Sheesh.  Contrast that with the present unemployment rate of 5.7%, 2% inflation, mortgage rates at below 6%.  Of course, if you listen to all the rhettoric from the other side you'd think we were all eating in soup kitchens.
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« Reply #880 on: February 01, 2004, 10:57:17 am »

Carter-Mondale years were okay up until 1978 when gas went, and Iran hostage. We needed a great leader, and Reagan was just that.
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« Reply #881 on: February 01, 2004, 02:21:44 pm »

No kidding! I thought that we now had the worst economy of all time ever and people were fondly remembering their hunter-gatherer days?

Oh wait, I've been listening to too many Demcratic candidate speeches.
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« Reply #882 on: February 01, 2004, 03:49:00 pm »
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I've heard things like that a lot, which I find interesting because I follow sports but certainly am very liberal. Does anybody have an explanation for why sports fans tend to vote more GOP than the national average?

And I also find it interesting that almost all former athletes/coaches who go into politics are Republicans. Sure Dems have Bill Bradley, but the GOP has Jim Bunning, J.C. Watts, Jim Ryun, Tom Osborne, etc.
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« Reply #883 on: February 01, 2004, 04:31:35 pm »

No kidding.  Double didgit inflation, 7.6% unemployment, 18% interest rates..... Sheesh.  Contrast that with the present unemployment rate of 5.7%, 2% inflation, mortgage rates at below 6%.  Of course, if you listen to all the rhettoric from the other side you'd think we were all eating in soup kitchens.

Sweden had 500% interest rates 10 years ago. Now that's a crisis for you... Smiley
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« Reply #884 on: February 01, 2004, 04:44:48 pm »

not that it matters much but lots of people are urging Osborne to run for Senate in 2006 vs Nelson, all that would change is D for R in leadership vote though as Nelson always is voting with GOP anyway.

Osborne would wina dn I doubt Nelson would run against him.


I've heard things like that a lot, which I find interesting because I follow sports but certainly am very liberal. Does anybody have an explanation for why sports fans tend to vote more GOP than the national average?

And I also find it interesting that almost all former athletes/coaches who go into politics are Republicans. Sure Dems have Bill Bradley, but the GOP has Jim Bunning, J.C. Watts, Jim Ryun, Tom Osborne, etc.
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« Reply #885 on: February 01, 2004, 05:53:36 pm »

Carter-Mondale years were okay up until 1978 when gas went, and Iran hostage. We needed a great leader, and Reagan was just that.

People liked to say Carter made a better preacher than a president.  That's how people viewed him. They thought he tried hard, but just wasn't up to the task.
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« Reply #886 on: February 02, 2004, 05:32:36 am »

You wanna see a what a depression is like?
Try Northern England/Central Scotland/South Wales in the 1980's... Sad
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« Reply #887 on: February 04, 2004, 12:46:34 am »

And the corker: we have Nolan Ryan.
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« Reply #888 on: February 04, 2004, 11:30:45 am »

DC's Political Report prediction:

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« Reply #889 on: February 04, 2004, 12:44:35 pm »

Two Stars?  Five Stars?  What is that all about?

Hey did anyone else notice that the submitted board average is now a Democrat win in electoral votes?  What balderdash!  
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« Reply #890 on: February 04, 2004, 01:14:45 pm »

Two Stars?  Five Stars?  What is that all about?

Hey did anyone else notice that the submitted board average is now a Democrat win in electoral votes?  What balderdash!  

I think the stars stand for excitement level, or something like that.
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« Reply #891 on: February 04, 2004, 02:57:35 pm »

Two Stars?  Five Stars?  What is that all about?

http://www.dcPoliticalReport.com/Ratings.htm

He explains it here, although that system is more suited for congressional races.
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« Reply #892 on: February 04, 2004, 03:39:49 pm »

How is Michigan two stars dem?  It is by no means solid for the Democrat.
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« Reply #893 on: February 05, 2004, 09:57:26 am »

Hello -- This is my first post. Today I posted my first election prediction map. I love this stuff, and have been doing these kinds of maps for years. This site is a delight.

It seems to me right now that Bush will win...
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« Reply #894 on: February 05, 2004, 12:28:42 pm »

Hello -- This is my first post. Today I posted my first election prediction map. I love this stuff, and have been doing these kinds of maps for years. This site is a delight.

It seems to me right now that Bush will win...

Welcome to the forum! Smiley

I saw your prediction, and it seems like an overall good assessment, even though one could argue some individual states, such as New Hampshire or Oregon. But it's a fairly likely outcome, I will agree to that.
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« Reply #895 on: February 05, 2004, 03:25:38 pm »

Pretty good map, Peteli, although I disagree with your assessments of NH, WV, OH, and MN.
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« Reply #896 on: February 06, 2004, 03:26:41 am »

Here is my president forever prediction of a clark/edwards ticket...

DEMOCRAT
HA
WA
OR
CA
NV
IA
LA
IL
MI
OH
TN
WV
VA
DC
MD
DE
NJ
NY
CT
RI
MA
VT
NH
ME

with the rest republican. If anyone could be bothered to do an EV count, that would be cool. in the game there were still 160 undecideds (I only have the demo)
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« Reply #897 on: February 06, 2004, 08:07:43 am »

Here is my president forever prediction of a clark/edwards ticket...

DEMOCRAT
HA
WA
OR
CA
NV
IA
LA
IL
MI
OH
TN
WV
VA
DC
MD
DE
NJ
NY
CT
RI
MA
VT
NH
ME

with the rest republican. If anyone could be bothered to do an EV count, that would be cool. in the game there were still 160 undecideds (I only have the demo)
President forever is a cool game, but not the most accurate.  I was Bush and I won CA without even campaigning there that much.
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« Reply #898 on: February 06, 2004, 10:37:43 am »

281 for your list.  but I doubt a number of them, VA being at the top of the list.


Here is my president forever prediction of a clark/edwards ticket...

DEMOCRAT
HA
WA
OR
CA
NV
IA
LA
IL
MI
OH
TN
WV
VA
DC
MD
DE
NJ
NY
CT
RI
MA
VT
NH
ME

with the rest republican. If anyone could be bothered to do an EV count, that would be cool. in the game there were still 160 undecideds (I only have the demo)

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« Reply #899 on: February 06, 2004, 01:13:58 pm »

281 for your list.  but I doubt a number of them, VA being at the top of the list.


Here is my president forever prediction of a clark/edwards ticket...

DEMOCRAT
HA
WA
OR
CA
NV
IA
LA
IL
MI
OH
TN
WV
VA
DC
MD
DE
NJ
NY
CT
RI
MA
VT
NH
ME

with the rest republican. If anyone could be bothered to do an EV count, that would be cool. in the game there were still 160 undecideds (I only have the demo)


Yeah VA is solid Republican imo.
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