Who would you have voted for?

[12th Doctor]

1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush

[12th Doctor]

1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush

I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

[12th Doctor]

1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush

I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

[12th Doctor]

1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush

I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?

Don't get me wrong, Hoover made a lot of mistakes, but the Depression wasn't his fault, it would have happened no matter who was president.  The events that set the Depression in motion started at the end of WWI.  An often ignored fact is that when Hoover left office, the economy was recovering and unemployment was down.  It kept getting lower during the first two years of the FDR administration (still Hoover's economy) and then spiked again in the third and fourth years of FDR's administration (FDR's economy).  So for ALL that Hoover was doing wrong, he must have done SOMETHING right.

[12th Doctor]

1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush

I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?

Don't get me wrong, Hoover made a lot of mistakes, but the Depression wasn't his fault, it would have happened no matter who was president.  The events that set the Depression in motion started at the end of WWI.  An often ignored fact is that when Hoover left office, the economy was recovering and unemployment was down.  It kept getting lower during the first two years of the FDR administration (still Hoover's economy) and then spiked again in the third and fourth years of FDR's administration (FDR's economy).  So for ALL that Hoover was doing wrong, he must have done SOMETHING right.

I don't have immediate access to statistics from that time, but that sounds dubious. I do know that the stock market did not recover until the 50s. I believe that Keynesian policies were necessary to battle the depression, and I don't think Hoover would've done that, hence it would have been worse than it would otherwise have been.

To be fair I should point out that the numbers I am using are for private sector employment.  The acctual number of those employed did go up during MOST of the FDR administration, but ALL of the net gain in jobs can be attributed to government works projects, which is "artificial" when considering acctual economic impact.

[12th Doctor]

1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush

I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?

Don't get me wrong, Hoover made a lot of mistakes, but the Depression wasn't his fault, it would have happened no matter who was president.  The events that set the Depression in motion started at the end of WWI.  An often ignored fact is that when Hoover left office, the economy was recovering and unemployment was down.  It kept getting lower during the first two years of the FDR administration (still Hoover's economy) and then spiked again in the third and fourth years of FDR's administration (FDR's economy).  So for ALL that Hoover was doing wrong, he must have done SOMETHING right.

I don't have immediate access to statistics from that time, but that sounds dubious. I do know that the stock market did not recover until the 50s. I believe that Keynesian policies were necessary to battle the depression, and I don't think Hoover would've done that, hence it would have been worse than it would otherwise have been.

To be fair I should point out that the numbers I am using are for private sector employment.  The acctual number of those employed did go up during MOST of the FDR administration, but ALL of the net gain in jobs can be attributed to government works projects, which is "artificial" when considering acctual economic impact.

Not really, since that was part of the point, stimulating the economy through public projects. What would've happened if these people had been unemployed?

What would have happened if FDR hadn'd regulated the CRAP out of the economy?  The fact is that in 1938, we were no closer to acctually getting out of the Depression.  WWII is what pulled the country out of Depression, not the New Deal.

[12th Doctor]

Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?

Well I might have felt that we could have gotten involved earlier and without a doubt I would have been concerned about a person haveing more then 2 terms as President.

But weren't the Republicans at the time more isolationist? I know the American senate stopped Jewish children from entering the US during the 30s.

Seeing as the Senate was controled by the Democrats....

[12th Doctor]

Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?

Well I might have felt that we could have gotten involved earlier and without a doubt I would have been concerned about a person haveing more then 2 terms as President.

But weren't the Republicans at the time more isolationist? I know the American senate stopped Jewish children from entering the US during the 30s.

Seeing as the Senate was controled by the Democrats....

Well, I seemed to remember that FDR had a lot of problems with the congress, so I have always supposed that it was a Republican congress, but I guess I was wrong.

There were never more than 35 (out of 96) Republicans in the Senate during the FDR administration until the start of the war.  For two years there were only 16 Republicans!  The House had about the same percentages thoughout the era.  FDR had trouble because most of his proposals were too socialistic for even most of the New Deal Democrats.