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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2003, 12:56:14 pm »

Cool.  BTW, I did get your mail and that is the best way to email me. (one can always use the email form as well).
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2003, 12:10:12 pm »

My 2nd prediction failed again! I think I uploaded OK but then it wouldn't let me enter my username!
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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2003, 01:45:00 pm »
« Edited: November 19, 2003, 01:46:18 pm by Dave Leip »

English -
I reset the database when I created the ability to add the confidence map.  You need to start fresh (check the initial prediction button and choose your username and password).
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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2003, 02:06:48 pm »

BTW I forgot to mention that after taking care of the probs I mentioned I had no probs uploading with IE 5 ans Win 98- SE so there is no conflict with that system Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2003, 10:37:17 pm »

I am confused completely how to make this map.  Could someone please help this newbie to the site but not politics?  Thanks
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« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2003, 09:27:16 am »

Steps:
1. Start in this page.
2. Download the template maps.
3. modify template .gif files with graphic program (such as graphicconverter (Mac) or default paint program (PC) or gimp (Linux), etc.  Be sure to rename according to the guidelines and save a .gif
4. upload the files on the page listed in step 1.
5. once you upload, fill out the comments and EV totals fields.
6. If you need to update, just repeat these steps.
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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2003, 03:56:52 pm »
« Edited: November 22, 2003, 04:06:57 pm by GBD4 »

okay, I figured out how to edit the maps in Paint, but I am having trouble uploading them.  do I have to rename the files every time I update (i.e. version 1, 2, 3, etc.?) I assumed that's what "revised prediction" is for, but I think I'm confused

btw, it's been a few months since I've been on the forum, actually my first time on since the forum was redone, glad to be back
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« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2003, 10:53:26 pm »
« Edited: November 27, 2003, 09:09:19 am by Dave Leip »

Glad to see you back.  I see that you tried to upload a number of files - but they all had a file lenght of 0... meaning that they did not upload properly.  The version number is intended for you to use when you actually update the maps, but if the maps don't upload correctly, then you need to change the name when you try again.  I can't explain the upload problem.  I've not been able to reproduce this problem.  Can you tell me what browser and OS you used when trying to upload?
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« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2003, 05:02:45 pm »

I'm using Windows 98 & Internet Explorer, I'm going to rename the maps and try again
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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2003, 03:14:47 pm »

Well even though I had said earlier that simplicity was best; in this case, I do think the colors are a useful addition. Nice job Dave.  Smiley

I having been using the EV calculator a good bit and maintain its the best one I've used yet. I do not find the lack of a map to be a negative point at all.
However Dave, if like all techies you like to continually make improvements to your work Smiley I would suggest a horizontal bar graph depicting the new dem/rep totals

This is the only feature from Edwards EV calc on
http://www.johnedwards2004.com/map/

that I find could be a good addition here and even then its obviously not vital. Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2003, 12:08:18 pm »

New User Prediction pages available!  I've redesigned the user-prediction scripts and now have removed all the pain associated with downloading, editing, and uploading maps.  The computer now generates them.  Try it out!
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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2003, 01:05:10 pm »

THAT IS THE BOMB!!!!  I updated my prediction just to use it Smiley  It is so much easier and you don't have to go through and count the EV's.  Thanks!
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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2003, 08:55:40 am »

Any way to delete a map? I wanted to update my original (I hadn't noticed the percentage drop-down boxes weren't all set the same), but after I finished updating my map I somehow wound up with two entries of the exact same thing.
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2003, 09:36:10 am »

Hi Vetiver,
your two entries aren't the same - the prediction maps have different percentage wins (look at the version history on your individual prediction page).  You can't delete maps, but you can create a new version - and it will become the default version in the list.  There is currently a bug in the "most recent" page that I will address shortly that repeats the most recent version when you submitted multiple versions.
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« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2003, 02:42:27 pm »

Dave, great site!

Question for you, or anyone who cares to answer...  What does, for example, >70% mean?  Is it that I think there's an 70%+ chance of a candidate carrying the state in question?  Or is it a prediction that the candidate will get 70%+ of the popular vote in that state?

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« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2003, 02:48:02 pm »

The Percent column is intended to be the popular vote total for the winning candidate of that state... so > 70% means that the candidate wins the state with > 70% of the vote.
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« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2003, 03:29:39 pm »
« Edited: December 13, 2003, 03:30:02 pm by Miamiu1027 »

great new calcultaor dave---I didn't need to used the smrs.tamu.edu page to make the map.  Alot easier.

How come you hide your political opinions with the indpendent avatar?  Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2003, 04:06:21 pm »

The Percent column is intended to be the popular vote total for the winning candidate of that state... so > 70% means that the candidate wins the state with > 70% of the vote.
Dave

Thanks, Dave.  My updated prediction map doesn't have as many dark colors now.
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« Reply #43 on: December 25, 2003, 11:38:57 pm »

whenever I complete my maps and try to submit them, I get an error that shuts my IE down.
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« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2003, 04:04:56 pm »

How is it that the 2004 predictions mimic the 2000 outcomes, even down to the color shading?

Given the variation in predictions, including the number of all-blue and all-red maps, it seems highly unlikely.

Are we sure this represents the median prediction for each state?
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« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2003, 04:06:23 pm »

How is it that the 2004 predictions mimic the 2000 outcomes, even down to the color shading?

Given the variation in predictions, including the number of all-blue and all-red maps, it seems highly unlikely.

Are we sure this represents the median prediction for each state?
Am I the only one who doesn't understand what he is saying?

We use Red for dem and blue for Republicans.
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« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2003, 05:27:59 pm »

How is it that the 2004 predictions mimic the 2000 outcomes, even down to the color shading?

Given the variation in predictions, including the number of all-blue and all-red maps, it seems highly unlikely.

Are we sure this represents the median prediction for each state?
Am I the only one who doesn't understand what he is saying?

We use Red for dem and blue for Republicans.

Actually, I don't understand what you are saying Smiley
He doesn't mention party colours as far as I can see. I asked the same thing on the other thread. The median prediction map is an exact copy of the 2000 results map, which does seem weird. It is not impossible though.
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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2004, 06:52:16 am »

I think that the matchup between the 2000 map and the 2004 compiled map of user predictions is very suspicious.  Recently the map had begun to reflect a larger Republican victory, with New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Iowa switching to Republican, but this did not last long.  I think a large number of Republican prediction maps were removed to make the average or median more Democratic.  This can be seen by the fact that the number of submitted user predictions drops occasionally.  Interestingly, this adjustmet always favors the Democrats.
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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2004, 07:40:25 am »

I think that the matchup between the 2000 map and the 2004 compiled map of user predictions is very suspicious.  Recently the map had begun to reflect a larger Republican victory, with New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Iowa switching to Republican, but this did not last long.  I think a large number of Republican prediction maps were removed to make the average or median more Democratic.  This can be seen by the fact that the number of submitted user predictions drops occasionally.  Interestingly, this adjustmet always favors the Democrats.

OK...I seriously doubt that Leip is purposefully trying to favour the Democrats in the prediction maps. That makes abolutely no sense.
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« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2004, 12:28:04 pm »

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OK...I seriously doubt that Leip is purposefully trying to favour the Democrats in the prediction maps. That makes abolutely no sense.
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Well, I'm open to alternative explanations.  Can you think of any?  There's no doubt the number of entries drops occasionally, and the result is a shift back to 269-269 from a substantial Republican lead.
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