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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
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Junior Chimp
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« on: November 22, 2006, 06:09:23 PM »

Since when has the Constitution ever stopped Congress from doing anything?

I'm all for "civil rights" giving us an extra electoral vote Smiley
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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,983
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Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 11:20:09 AM »

Maybe now that the Dems control a majority of them DC will have a chance again.

And we shall fight it to the death.

(unless we can work out a few more EV's for Utah to balance it out) Smiley
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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,983
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Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2006, 01:25:45 PM »

Newsflash.  DC already has 3 EVs and has had them for over 40 years so there is nothing to balance out there.   Try reading the 23rd amendment.  The question of balance only comes into play when you consider congressional representation.

Welcome, rude new person.  If we added more members of Congress to Utah or another GOP state, then I'd be just plum delighted to add 2 new Senators and a voting rep for DC - hence adding more EV's.
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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2006, 12:53:33 PM »

The fact that you would hold ransom the voting rights of over half a million tax paying American citizens just so your party can gain a few extra votes for itself is disgusting. 

You know what, you're exactly right.  I don't want to hold ransom the voting rights of any tax-paying American citizen.  Declare DC a tax-free haven and watch it blossom!
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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,983
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Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2006, 11:50:41 AM »

What precedent?  Congress did not assume sovereignty over the District until it was ready to move there in 1800. Until that happened, that territory still belonged to Virgina and Maryland.  I agree that retrocession would be a desirable course of action.  However that gets complicated by the 23rd Amendment.  If you remove all the residents of D.C., who gets to decide who those 3 electors D.C. has under the 23rd are?  Does Congress get to pick them?

I think it would require a new Constitutional Amendment to retrocede DC to Maryland because the 23rd Amendment would have to be undone.  I don't think Maryland or DC have any desire to reunite though.  We shouldn't force it on them either.  I think a better course for those who favor the retrocession option would be to give DC its own Congressional District, allow DC residents to vote and run for office as Maryland Senators, and maintain its current 3EVs. 

Yeah you'd like that wouldn't you.... that way you get 3 Dem EV's instead of just basically adding 1 to Maryland (which is about all that the population of DC would be entitled to)
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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 06:06:51 PM »


Yeah you'd like that wouldn't you.... that way you get 3 Dem EV's instead of just basically adding 1 to Maryland (which is about all that the population of DC would be entitled to)

Well I suppose we could use your preferred method of equalization.  If your willing to force North and South Dakota together I'll gladly force DC and Maryland together.  I'm sure neither of those parties will mind us forcing them together at all.

Hmm... that might get rid of at least one, and probably two Dem Senators Smiley
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