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[© tweed]

That's an epic collapse for Gore.  He's down to 4.8 right now, which means the Gore shares have lost more than 50% of their value in just the last 12 hours.  And as far as I can tell, it's not because of any one event that occured yesterday or today.  It's just because the market suddenly realized that the Gore shares were absurdly overvalued.  Oh, and he's down to 4.4 in the winning individual market, so there's been a huge collapse there as well.

it's due to a quote from Gore.  read my first post on this page.

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Hillary has surged to 74.5.

Gore has dropped to 4.2


Obama and Edwards gain a bit, and are now ahead of Gore.  Dodd surges.

Democrats
Clinton 74.5
Obama 12.9
Edwards 4.3
Gore 4.2
Richardson 0.8
Biden 0.4
Dodd 0.4

[Mr. Morden]

That's an epic collapse for Gore.  He's down to 4.8 right now, which means the Gore shares have lost more than 50% of their value in just the last 12 hours.  And as far as I can tell, it's not because of any one event that occured yesterday or today.  It's just because the market suddenly realized that the Gore shares were absurdly overvalued.  Oh, and he's down to 4.4 in the winning individual market, so there's been a huge collapse there as well.

it's due to a quote from Gore.  read my first post on this page.

Yes, but as you yourself said, this is a *repeat* announcement.  He's been saying virtually the same thing for ages.  But somehow I guess this particular announcement has caused the stock to crash.

The "Gore will enter the race" share price has crashed from 28 to 4 in the last 12 hours.  Incredible.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Maybe the delusional crew finally realized it's too late for Gore after this. When's the filing deadline in IA and NH after all?

Anyone shorting Gore earlier (smart people) just made a king's ransom.

[SPC]

I'm surprised Gore himself doesn't just invest that Nobel prize money in his stock that he will annouce a candidacy. That way, he will have more than enough money to have a serious campaign.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Gore's collapses has ended around 5.0. So only half the morons on InTrade got the picture.

This does mean shorting Gore's not so much of a good investment anymore though, since it's only $5 for every $100. Of course, it's also basically a sure thing, but you're better off shorting Paul.

[Mr. Morden]

The collapse in the market's belief that Gore will run was far greater than the collapse in its belief that he'll win.  So much so that the "Gore to formally announce his intention to run for US Presidency in 2008" price is all the way down to 4.0, while the "Gore to win the Democratic nomination" price is at 5.0.  I guess that means that Gore might win the nomination without announcing that he's running.  His powers know no bound!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

My guess is a few folks suspect Gore might try some sort of coup to steal the nomination at the convention like a handful of complete morons thought Hillary would try in 2004.

[Mr. Morden]

Yeah, actually, as I think I mentioned in another thread, of all the various "Gore wins the nomination" scenarios one could imagine, the one that I think is actually the least farfetched is where Clinton clinches the nomination in the primaries, then some time after the primaries are over but before the convention, she either dies, is incapacitated, or a scandal blows up that's so big, it forces her out of the campaign.  At that point, I suppose it's possible that Gore would step in and win at the convention, especially if polls show that he'd likely win in the general election.

Granted, the chances of that happening are incredibly low.  But at this point, it's probably more likely than Gore entering the race within the next few weeks when all the primary filing deadlines come up.

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Clinton down, but still really high.  Gore reclaims 3rd place from Edwards.

Giuliani surges and is basically a record high. Thompson continues his fall.

Democrats
Clinton 72.9
Obama 13.0
Gore 5.0
Edwards 4.0
Richardson 0.8
Biden 0.4
Dodd 0.4

Republicans
Giuliani 44.5
Romney 25.6
Thompson 13.0
Paul 7.4
McCain 6.6
Huckabee 4.1
Rice 1.7
Gingrich 0.3


Clinton:

Giuliani:

Thompson:

[Mr. Morden]

For fun, here's a repost of the numbers from August 29, 2005 that Boss Tweed posted earlier in the thread:

GOP:
Allen 23.0
McCain 15.6
Giuliani 15.0
Frist 7.1
Romney 7.0
Jeb Bush 6.0
Rice 5.8
Hagel 4.2
Gingrich 3.6
Cheney 2.8
Pawlenty 2.4
Brownback 2.0
Pataki, Owens, Powell, Thompson, Santorum, Bloomberg, Graham, Sanford each between 1 and 2.
Ridge, Schwarzenegger, Barbour, Elizabeth Dole, Franks each between 0 and 1.

Dems:
Clinton 42.4
Warner 10.7
Biden 9.6
Bayh 8.5
Richardson 6.1
Gore 5.8
Edwards 5.2
Clark 3.6
Kerry 3.3
Corzine 2.1
Feingold 2.0
Vilsack, Obama, Rendell, Dean, Breseden each 1 to 2
Powell, Leahy, Dodd, Ford, Lieberman, Schweitzer, Easley each 0 to 1.

And here are the numbers from as recently as July 9, 2007:

Democrats
Clinton 43.8
Obama 38.7
Gore 6.7
Edwards 5.1
Richardson 1.8
Clark 0.7
Biden 0.5
Dodd 0.4
Kerry 0.2
Warner 0.1


Republicans
Thompson 35.7
Giuliani 35.4
Romney 15.5
McCain 4.7
Gingrich 3.8
Paul 2.4
Huckabee 1.2
J. Bush 0.6
Hagel 0.6
Rice 0.6
Cheney 0.4
Tancredo 0.4
Bloomberg 0.3
Brownback 0.3
T. Thompson 0.2
Hunter 0.2

Yes, it was only a little over 3 months ago that Obama was within a few points of Clinton and Thompson was actually in the lead on the GOP side, ahead of Giuliani.  The Obama and Thompson share prices have lost something like 2/3rds of their value since then.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Er, so Gore has actually gone UP since then? Wow.

[Mr. Morden]

Er, so Gore has actually gone UP since then? Wow.

Well yes, he went up, but he's since gone back down.  As I showed in that post, he was at 5.8 on that one day in August 2005 (though looking at the price graph, that must have been an off day for him).  He's at 5.5 now.  So in net, he's gone down.  But he was way up at about 15-18 for much of mid-late 2006.  Then in 2007, he's been oscillating between 4.0 and 13.0.  Earlier this week he was at the top of that range.  Now he's down near the bottom.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What's shocking though is that Gore went up AT ALL since 2005 since he said he wasn't running several times between that and his peak. You think Gore could've just said "I'm not running" and that would be the end of it, like Kerry and Warner. But apparently he has just too many idiot fanboys.

[© tweed]

What's shocking though is that Gore went up AT ALL since 2005 since he said he wasn't running several times between that and his peak. You think Gore could've just said "I'm not running" and that would be the end of it, like Kerry and Warner. But apparently he has just too many idiot fanboys.

Kerry and Warner explicitly stated that they would not seek the presidency in 2008.  Gore has instead always said that he "has no plans" which is why his stock still has activity - he still has not actually said that he will not seek the presidency in 2008.  if he did, his stock would probably fall to below 1.0.

[Mr. Morden]

The main reason he went up so much in 2006 was because of An Inconvenient Truth, and the media glow he got from that.  That positive press he was getting at that time led many to believe that he might have a good chance at getting elected president.  There wasn't as much Gore fever before that.

[Mr. Morden]

Here are some of the threads from this forum during that May/June 2006 period when Gore was surging on Tradesports:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=39920.0

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https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=40393.0

"Will Gore run?" poll of this forum from May 2006.....13 answered yes and 18 answered no.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=40260.0

Are Gore's odds better than a month ago? poll of this forum from May 2006.....18 yes, 3 no, 5 same.

There was definitely a Gore boomlet around that time, which is when Gore made most of his gains on Tradesports.

[Mr. Morden]

What's going on with Huckabee?  He's more than doubled in the last few hours, and is now all the way up to 8.9.  Was that values voters straw poll really that important?

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Obama down a bit.

Thompson continues his slide. Huckabee gains.

Democrats
Clinton 73.0
Obama 12.3
Gore 5.3
Edwards 4.0
Richardson 0.8
Biden 0.4
Dodd 0.4

Republicans
Giuliani 44.0
Romney 25.6
Thompson 12.0
Paul 7.4
McCain 6.6
Huckabee 5.0
Rice 1.7
Gingrich 0.3

Huckabee went haywire earlier:

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Man, it'll be hilarious if McCain falls to 6th.

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Not much movement on the Democratic side. Dodd down.

Giuliani down a bit. Thompson continues his crash and burn. Paul drops and Huckabee gains, they are now tied for 5th, with McCain re-claiming 4th place.

Democrats
Clinton 72.8
Obama 12.2
Gore 5.4
Edwards 3.9
Richardson 0.7
Biden 0.3
Dodd 0.2

Republicans
Giuliani 43.2
Romney 26.0
Thompson 11.0
McCain 6.6
Paul 6.0
Huckabee 6.0
Rice 1.6
Gingrich 0.3

Good week for Huckabee:


Not so good for Thompson:


Or Gore:

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Whoa!  Glad I bought all that Huckabee at 3.

Though it is worth mentioning that his bid/ask is only 4.8/4.9, despite 6 being the last trade.

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Clinton plunges some. Strangely, Gore is the main gainer.

Giuliani has a slight gain.  Romney drops. McCain surges.  Paul up, Huckabee down. Rice plunges.

Democrats
Clinton 70.1
Obama 12.0
Gore 6.4
Edwards 4.2
Richardson 0.8
Biden 0.3
Dodd 0.2

Republicans
Giuliani 44.1
Romney 24.3
Thompson 11.6
McCain 7.5
Paul 6.6
Huckabee 5.1
Rice 0.9
Gingrich 0.2

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Gore is gaining again?

WHAT. F**KING. IDIOTS.

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Gore is gaining again?

WHAT. F**KING. IDIOTS.

To be fair to the Gore supporters, there was a poll where he trails Clinton by only 5 points.