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« Reply #200 on: June 22, 2009, 11:14:08 AM »

The Death of Conservatism

POD FDR dies in 1943.

Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) (1933-1943)
Henry Wallace (D-IA) (1943-1945)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1945-1953)
John Bricker (R-OH) (1953-1957)
Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) (1957-1965)
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1965-1973)
John Kennedy (D-MA) (1973-1981)
Robert Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Mario Cuomo (D-NY) (1993-2001)
Pete Wilson (R-CA) (2001-2009)
John Edwards (D-NC) (2009-



Both Kemp and Dole are conservatives.
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« Reply #201 on: June 22, 2009, 11:16:08 AM »

The Death of Conservatism

POD FDR dies in 1943.

Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) (1933-1943)
Henry Wallace (D-IA) (1943-1945)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1945-1953)
John Bricker (R-OH) (1953-1957)
Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) (1957-1965)
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1965-1973)
John Kennedy (D-MA) (1973-1981)
Robert Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Mario Cuomo (D-NY) (1993-2001)
Pete Wilson (R-CA) (2001-2009)
John Edwards (D-NC) (2009-



My dream... Smiley
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« Reply #202 on: June 23, 2009, 03:11:08 PM »

The Three Party system 1913-2009, this is kind of like 1913-2009 in my massive list, but a little different.

Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) (1913-1919)*
Hiram Johnson (CA)/Robert M. La Follette Sr. (WI) (Progressive) (1919-1925)
Calvin Coolidge (MA)/Frank Lowden (IA) (Republican) (1925-1929)
Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charles Curtis (KS) (Republican) (1929-1933)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. La Follette Jr. (WI) (Progressive) (1933-1937)*
Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI)/Henry Wallace (IA) (Progressive) (1937-1945)
Thomas Dewey (NY)/Harold Stassen (MN) (Republican) (1945-1953)
Robert S. Kerr (OK)/Estes Keyfauver(TN) (Democratic) (1953-1961)
Nelson Rockefeller (NY)/Richard Nixon (CA) (Republican) (1961-1965)*
John F. Kennedy (MA)/Daniel Brewster (MD) (Democratic) (1965-1967)*
Daniel Brewster (MD)/Hubert Humphrey (MN) (Democratic) (1967-1969)*
Eugene McCarthy (MN)/George McGovern (SD) (Progressive) (1969-1977)
Frank Church (ID)/Fred Harris (OK) (Progressive) (1977-1981)
Robert F. Kennedy (MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (TX) (Democratic) (1981-1983)*
Lloyd Bentsen (TX)/Howard Baker (TN) (Democratic) (1983-1989)
Howard Baker (TN)/Gary Hart (CO) (Democratic) (1989-1993)*
Paul Tsongas (MA)/Al Gore (TN) (Republican) (1993-1997)*
Al Gore (TN)/Bill Clinton (CA) (Republican) (1997-2005)*
Howard Dean (VT)/Russ Feingold (WI) (Progressive) (2005-2009)
Hillary Rodham Rubin (NY)/Bill Richardson (NM) (Democratic) (2009-present)*

Notes:
1. Teddy dies of heart complications
2. FDR's polio is much more severe than IOTL and he dies 3 days before being sworn in for his second term. Robert M. LaFollette Jr. is sworn in 5 hours later and shows up on inauguration day where there is a confused air about the place.
3. Like IOTL Rockefeller's affair with Happy is made public and that destroys his popularity. To save face and help Nixon's own presidential aspirations he announces he won't be seeking re-election. It wouldn't be enough though, as the very charismatic Democrat nominee John F. Kennedy would win election.
4. JFK gets assasinated during a parade on October 21st, 1967 in downtown Baltimore. A PI that was gathering info on JFK's hidden affairs and mafia dealings decides not to come out with the information out of respect for JFK's passing. Vice President Daniel Brewster is sworn in as president.
5. The revelation of Brewster getting bribes a week before election destroys his approval rating and he suffers a huge electoral defeat which results in the underdog Progressive ticket of McCarthy/McGovern to take the White House.
6. Robert F. Kennedy (pretty moderate for a Democrat, like his brother) benefits greatly from the legacy of his brother and the economic downturn of 1980 to regain the White House for the Democrats. A Watergate like scandal that occurs only 8 months into office would result in his impeachment by the US Congress in 1983 whereby his vice president, also moderate Lloyd Bentsen, becomes president. Bentsen would become the Ronald Reagan equivalent ITTL.
7. In January of 1992, the affair between Gary Hart and Donna Rice is revealed to the public. Being the conservative leaning party, this isn't a good breakthrough for the GOP. Public disapporval of the event goes against Howard Baker's re-election campaign and helps the ticket of Paul Tsongas/Al Gore take the White House for the Republicans for the first time in 28 years.
8. Tsongas dies of a liver failure just 3 days before Inauguration. Al Gore is sworn as president and Congress approves of the selection of California Governor Bill Clinton as Vice President. Clinton moved from Arkansas to California in the mid 70's to find legal work before becoming a US Representative (1978-1982), a US Senator (1982-1990) before becoming Governor (1990-1997). His lieutenant governor Gray Davis would succeed him as governor. His selection was very controversial due to his common law relationship with the significantly younger model Elaine Irwin (22 years his junior). On May 4th, 2001 Clinton and Irwin would finally tie the knot with Clinton’s son Steven (born 1968) as the best man and English supermodel Kate Moss as the maid of honor.
9. Hillary Rodham Rubin, the wife of former Secretary of Treasury Robert Rubin (1995-2001), becomes the first woman elected president. Her vice president, Bill Richardson, would become the first Hispanic vice president.
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« Reply #203 on: June 24, 2009, 12:01:49 AM »

Here is a list based on if LBJ had picked Conneticut Senator Thomas Dodd instead of Humphrey for Vice President. Dodd is able to clinch the nomination and wins a narrow victory over Nixon and Wallace...Dodd is revealed for his corruption charges during his 1st term and resigns office before being impeached.

Doddamned

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
37. Thomas J. Dodd (D-CT): January 20th 1969-January 1st 1971**
38. Harold E. Hughes (D-IA): January 1st 1971-January 20th 1973

39. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981
40. Hugh L. Carey (D-NY): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1985
41. Pierre S. “Pete” du Pont IV (R-DE): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
42. Larry L. Pressler (R-SD): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997

43. Joseph P. Kennedy II (D-MA): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
44. Lynn C. Swann (R-PA): January 20th 2005-???*

Notes.

37. First President to Resign Office mainly due to corruption charges
44. First African-American President.
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« Reply #204 on: June 24, 2009, 02:37:47 AM »

George H.W. Bush(R-TX)/James Danforth "Dan" Quayle (R-IN): 1989-1997
John F. Kerry (D-MA)/Evan Bayh (D-IN): 1997-2001
John Ellis "Jeb" Bush(R-FL)/John S. McCain (R-AZ): 2001-2005
John Edwards (D-NC)/Howard B. Dean (D-VT): 2001-2007**
Howard B. Dean (D-VT) 2007-2009
Wesley K. Clark(D-MO)/Barack H. Obama (D-IL):2009-?

**impeached
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« Reply #205 on: June 24, 2009, 03:42:03 AM »

The Three Party system 1913-2009, this is kind of like 1913-2009 in my massive list, but a little different.

Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) (1913-1919)*
Hiram Johnson (CA)/Robert M. La Follette Sr. (WI) (Progressive) (1919-1925)
Calvin Coolidge (MA)/Frank Lowden (IA) (Republican) (1925-1929)
Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charles Curtis (KS) (Republican) (1929-1933)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. La Follette Jr. (WI) (Progressive) (1933-1937)*
Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI)/Henry Wallace (IA) (Progressive) (1937-1945)
Thomas Dewey (NY)/Harold Stassen (MN) (Republican) (1945-1953)
Robert S. Kerr (OK)/Estes Keyfauver(TN) (Democratic) (1953-1961)
Nelson Rockefeller (NY)/Richard Nixon (CA) (Republican) (1961-1965)*
John F. Kennedy (MA)/Daniel Brewster (MD) (Democratic) (1965-1967)*
Daniel Brewster (MD)/Hubert Humphrey (MN) (Democratic) (1967-1969)*
Eugene McCarthy (MN)/George McGovern (SD) (Progressive) (1969-1977)
Frank Church (ID)/Fred Harris (OK) (Progressive) (1977-1981)
Robert F. Kennedy (MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (TX) (Democratic) (1981-1983)*
Lloyd Bentsen (TX)/Howard Baker (TN) (Democratic) (1983-1989)
Howard Baker (TN)/Gary Hart (CO) (Democratic) (1989-1993)*
Paul Tsongas (MA)/Al Gore (TN) (Republican) (1993-1997)*
Al Gore (TN)/Bill Clinton (CA) (Republican) (1997-2005)*
Howard Dean (VT)/Russ Feingold (WI) (Progressive) (2005-2009)
Hillary Rodham Rubin (NY)/Bill Richardson (NM) (Democratic) (2009-present)*


Great list ! Smiley
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« Reply #206 on: June 24, 2009, 07:45:27 AM »

The Three Party system 1913-2009, this is kind of like 1913-2009 in my massive list, but a little different.

Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) (1913-1919)*
Hiram Johnson (CA)/Robert M. La Follette Sr. (WI) (Progressive) (1919-1925)
Calvin Coolidge (MA)/Frank Lowden (IA) (Republican) (1925-1929)
Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charles Curtis (KS) (Republican) (1929-1933)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. La Follette Jr. (WI) (Progressive) (1933-1937)*
Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI)/Henry Wallace (IA) (Progressive) (1937-1945)
Thomas Dewey (NY)/Harold Stassen (MN) (Republican) (1945-1953)
Robert S. Kerr (OK)/Estes Keyfauver(TN) (Democratic) (1953-1961)
Nelson Rockefeller (NY)/Richard Nixon (CA) (Republican) (1961-1965)*
John F. Kennedy (MA)/Daniel Brewster (MD) (Democratic) (1965-1967)*
Daniel Brewster (MD)/Hubert Humphrey (MN) (Democratic) (1967-1969)*
Eugene McCarthy (MN)/George McGovern (SD) (Progressive) (1969-1977)
Frank Church (ID)/Fred Harris (OK) (Progressive) (1977-1981)
Robert F. Kennedy (MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (TX) (Democratic) (1981-1983)*
Lloyd Bentsen (TX)/Howard Baker (TN) (Democratic) (1983-1989)
Howard Baker (TN)/Gary Hart (CO) (Democratic) (1989-1993)*
Paul Tsongas (MA)/Al Gore (TN) (Republican) (1993-1997)*
Al Gore (TN)/Bill Clinton (CA) (Republican) (1997-2005)*
Howard Dean (VT)/Russ Feingold (WI) (Progressive) (2005-2009)
Hillary Rodham Rubin (NY)/Bill Richardson (NM) (Democratic) (2009-present)*


Great list ! Smiley

Thanks. I seem to be pretty good at making these Smiley. I've always been intrigued by the possibility of a strong Progressive Party. I think American politics would've been alot more interesting if it actually had a legit leftist party, although I don't describe myself as one. I think a party that is legitly left would've challenged the other two more so than individual progressives in each party did.
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« Reply #207 on: June 24, 2009, 09:41:16 AM »

Barack Obama/Joe Biden (2009-2017)
Haley Barbour/Sarah Palin (2017-2021)

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« Reply #208 on: June 24, 2009, 10:11:55 AM »

Barack Obama/Joe Biden (2009-2017)
Haley Barbour/Sarah Palin (2017-2021)



Yawn. You have to do much better than that.
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« Reply #209 on: June 24, 2009, 11:22:43 AM »

The Three Party system 1913-2009, this is kind of like 1913-2009 in my massive list, but a little different.

Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) (1913-1919)*
Hiram Johnson (CA)/Robert M. La Follette Sr. (WI) (Progressive) (1919-1925)
Calvin Coolidge (MA)/Frank Lowden (IA) (Republican) (1925-1929)
Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charles Curtis (KS) (Republican) (1929-1933)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. La Follette Jr. (WI) (Progressive) (1933-1937)*
Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI)/Henry Wallace (IA) (Progressive) (1937-1945)
Thomas Dewey (NY)/Harold Stassen (MN) (Republican) (1945-1953)
Robert S. Kerr (OK)/Estes Keyfauver(TN) (Democratic) (1953-1961)
Nelson Rockefeller (NY)/Richard Nixon (CA) (Republican) (1961-1965)*
John F. Kennedy (MA)/Daniel Brewster (MD) (Democratic) (1965-1967)*
Daniel Brewster (MD)/Hubert Humphrey (MN) (Democratic) (1967-1969)*
Eugene McCarthy (MN)/George McGovern (SD) (Progressive) (1969-1977)
Frank Church (ID)/Fred Harris (OK) (Progressive) (1977-1981)
Robert F. Kennedy (MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (TX) (Democratic) (1981-1983)*
Lloyd Bentsen (TX)/Howard Baker (TN) (Democratic) (1983-1989)
Howard Baker (TN)/Gary Hart (CO) (Democratic) (1989-1993)*
Paul Tsongas (MA)/Al Gore (TN) (Republican) (1993-1997)*
Al Gore (TN)/Bill Clinton (CA) (Republican) (1997-2005)*
Howard Dean (VT)/Russ Feingold (WI) (Progressive) (2005-2009)
Hillary Rodham Rubin (NY)/Bill Richardson (NM) (Democratic) (2009-present)*


Great list ! Smiley

Thanks. I seem to be pretty good at making these Smiley. I've always been intrigued by the possibility of a strong Progressive Party. I think American politics would've been alot more interesting if it actually had a legit leftist party, although I don't describe myself as one. I think a party that is legitly left would've challenged the other two more so than individual progressives in each party did.

Agreed. Wink
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« Reply #210 on: June 24, 2009, 12:05:07 PM »

1940's and onwards

Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) / Henry Wallace (D-IA) (1933-1940) *
Henry Wallace (D-IA) / Harry Truman (D-MO) (1940-1941)

Harry Truman (D-MO) / Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) (1941-1945)
John S. McCain, Jr (R-NY) / George A. Wilson (R-IA) (1945-1953)
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / Dick Nixon (R-CA) (1953-1961)

John F. Kennedy (R-MA) / Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA) (1961-1965)
Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) / Scoop Jackson (D-WA) (1965-1967) *
Scoop Jackson (D-WA) / Robert Kennedy (D-NY) (1967-1973)

George McGovern (D-SD) / Jimmy Carter (D-AL) (1973-1975) *
Jimmy Carter (D-AL) / None (1975-1977)*


*Republican Party dissolves*

Howard Baker (L) / Nelson Rockefeller (L) (1977-1981) L =Liberal

*World ends on Jan 14th 1981
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« Reply #211 on: June 24, 2009, 12:29:48 PM »

Ive Always wanted to do a list based on a Lindbergh presidency in 1940...This is as close to distopia as my lists can get lol.

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1933-January 20th 1941
33. Charles Lindbergh (R-NY): January 20th 1941-April 12th 1945*
34. Dewey J. Short (R-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949

35. Scott W. Lucas (D-IL):  January 20th 1949-January 20th 1953
36. Henry C. Lodge Jr. (R-MA): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
37. William F. Knowland (R-CA): January 20th 1961-Febuary 23rd 1962*
38. Everett Dirksen (R-IL): February 23rd 1962-January 20th 1965

39. Matthew E. Welsh (D-IN): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
40. Daniel B. Brewster (D-MD): January 20th 1973-August 9th 1974**
41. Eugene J. “Gene” McCarthy (D-MN) August 9th 1974-January 20th 1977

42. Mark Hatfield (R-OR): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
43. Martin L. King Jr. (D-GA): January 20th 1981-April 4th 1988*
44. Gary Hart (D-CO): April 4th 1988-January 20th 1993

45. Joseph I. “Joe” Lieberman (R-CT) January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001*
46. June Carter Cash (D-VA): January 20th 2001-May 15th 2003*
47. James R. “Rick” Perry (D-TX): May 15th 2003-January 20th 2009

48. Antonio Villaraigosa (R-CA): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

33. Assassinated by German Espionage Agents during the height of the Pacific War.
37. Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion into Cuba.
40. First to resign the Presidency due Bribery Charges while he was Senator and Vice President.
43. First African American President, Assassinated during the final year of his second term by a Neo-Nazi skinhead.
45. First Jewish President.
46. First Female President, Died in office due to complications following heart valve replacement surgery.
48. First Hispanic American President.
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« Reply #212 on: June 24, 2009, 12:39:38 PM »

McCain in the white house Sad

1953-2021

* In 1948 : lowest age for president lowered to 30

1953-1959 : John S. McCain, Jr (R-NY) / Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA)
1959-1965 : Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA) / Roman Hruska (R-NE)
1965-1967 : John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Frank Church (D-ID) *
1967-1973 : Frank Church (D-ID) / Bobby Kennedy (D-NY)
1973-1975 : Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / Gerald Ford (R-NE) *
1975-1977 : Gerald Ford (R-NE) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
1977-1981 : Walter Mondale (D-MN) / George McGovern (D-SD)
1981-1989 : Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1989-1997 : Al Gore (D-TN) / Joe Biden (D-DE)
1997-2005 : George W. Bush (R-TX) / Joe Lieberman (R-CT)
2005-2009 : Hillary R. Kerry (D-NY) / Bill Clinton (D-CA)
2009-2017 : John Thune (R-ND) / Denny Rehberg  (R-MT)
2017-Current : Sarah Palin (R-UT) / Bobby Jindal (R-TX)


*JFK dies of heart disease
* Goldwater disappeared after a plane crash in 1975
 
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« Reply #213 on: June 24, 2009, 09:26:30 PM »

Ive Always wanted to do a list based on a Lindbergh presidency in 1940...This is as close to distopia as my lists can get lol.

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1933-January 20th 1941
33. Charles Lindbergh (R-NY): January 20th 1941-April 12th 1945*
34. Dewey J. Short (R-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949

35. Scott W. Lucas (D-IL):  January 20th 1949-January 20th 1953
36. Henry C. Lodge Jr. (R-MA): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
37. William F. Knowland (R-CA): January 20th 1961-Febuary 23rd 1962*
38. Everett Dirksen (R-IL): February 23rd 1962-January 20th 1965

39. Matthew E. Welsh (D-IN): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
40. Daniel B. Brewster (D-MD): January 20th 1973-August 9th 1974**
41. Eugene J. “Gene” McCarthy (D-MN) August 9th 1974-January 20th 1977[/
48. Antonio Villaraigosa (R-CA): January 20th 2009-???*color]
42. Mark Hatfield (R-OR): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
43. Martin L. King Jr. (D-GA): January 20th 1981-April 4th 1988*
44. Gary Hart (D-CO): April 4th 1988-January 20th 1993

45. Joseph I. “Joe” Lieberman (R-CT) January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001*
46. June Carter Cash (D-VA): January 20th 2001-May 15th 2003*
47. James R. “Rick” Perry (D-TX): May 15th 2003-January 20th 2009


Notes.

33. Assassinated by German Espionage Agents during the height of the Pacific War.
37. Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion into Cuba.
40. First to resign the Presidency due Bribery Charges while he was Senator and Vice President.
43. First African American President, Assassinated during the final year of his second term by a Neo-Nazi skinhead.
45. First Jewish President.
46. First Female President, Died in office due to complications following heart valve replacement surgery.
48. First Hispanic American President.


How did June become president?
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« Reply #214 on: June 25, 2009, 04:00:44 AM »


Yes, how could the world live without the Republican Party ? Tongue
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« Reply #215 on: June 25, 2009, 01:06:37 PM »

Robert Kennedy TL

Robert Kennedy/Ralph Yarborough: 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan/John Connally-1977-1985
Julian Bond/John Glenn: 1985-1989
Jack Kemp/Bob Dole: 1989-1993
Mario Cuomo/Al Gore: 1993-2001
Al Gore/Evan Bayh: 2001-2005
John McCain/Tommy Thompson: 2005-2009
Robert Kennedy Jr./Mark Warner
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« Reply #216 on: June 26, 2009, 04:41:15 PM »

Gore wins in '88

41. Al Gore Jr (1989-1997) Democratic
42. Donald Rumsfeld (1997-2000) Republican
43. Phil Gramm (2000-2001) Republican
44. Paul Wellstone (2001-2005) Democratic
45. Rick Perry (2005-2009) Democratic
46. John McCain (2009-) Republican
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« Reply #217 on: June 26, 2009, 09:24:01 PM »

Goldwater Waits Until 1968

36. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX): November 22, 1963-January 20, 1969
37. Richard Nixon (R-CA): January 20, 1969-August 9, 1974
38. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ): August 9, 1974-September 5, 1975
39. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): September 5, 1975-January 20, 1977

40. Jimmy Carter (D-GA): January 20, 1977-January 20, 1981
41. Robert Dole (R-KS): January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989
42. John Tower (R-TX): January 20, 1989-February 17, 1991
43. Jack Kemp (R-NY): February 17, 1991-January 20, 1993

44. Bill Clinton (D-AK): January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
45. John McCain (R-AZ): January 20, 2001-December 20, 2006
46. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX): December 20, 2006-January 20, 2009

47. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN): January 20, 2009-Present

36. Senator Goldwater stunned his conservative supporters when he announced that he would not be a candidate for President in 1964. In a private conversation with Arizona Governor Paul Fannin, Goldwater remarked that the election was over for the Republican when President Kennedy was assassinated. The Republicans would nominate Nelson Rockefeller for President and William Scranton for Vice President. Governor George Wallace of Alabama broke from the Democrats to run as the nominee of the American Independent party; he would win only in Mississippi, Georgia and his home state. President Johnson won his own term with 56 percent of the popular vote, Rockefeller had 40 percent and Wallace had 4 percent. In 1968, Goldwater threw his hat in the ring. Since primaries did not determine the parties' presidential nominees, former Vice President Nixon had the support of the GOP establishment (mostly in non-primary states). Goldwater was strongest in the Southern and interior Western states. Nixon clinched the nomination going into the convention and offered the nomination to Goldwater, which he accepted. Wallace decided not to run in 1968 and endorsed Nixon. Nixon swept the South and won a 44 state landslide over Hubert Humphrey.

37. President Nixon resigned over the Watergate scandal and was succeeded by Vice President Goldwater.

38. Once President Goldwater learned the extent of Nixon's involvement in Watergate, he announced that he would not pardon Nixon. In private, he told his wife that "anyone who would lie to Congress and his own wife is no good in my book." After the 1974 elections, Congress confirmed Ronald Reagan as Vice President.In foreign policy, President Goldwater replaced Henry Kissinger as Secretary of State with General William Westmoreland. With the might of the US Armed Forces, Goldwater ordered nonstop attacks on North Vietnam and Special Forces assaults on Viet Cong positions at the border between North and South Vietnam. On July 2, 1975, Goldwater ordered hydrogen bomb attacks on Hanoi that killed over a million people on the ground and destroyed every government building, resulting in the end of any effective Communist government there. With US air cover, South Vietnamese tanks entered Hanoi with little resistance on July 3. Vietnam was united and the South won. A united Vietnam would emerge as the dominant power in Indochina as it invaded Cambodia and Laos to prevent Communists from taking over. Back at home, Goldwater was criticized for dropping the hydrogen bomb and his popularity began to drop. While visiting Sacramento on September 5, 1975, Goldwater was shot in the head and died three hours later. The assassin, Lynette Fromme, was convicted and executed on March 4, 1977.
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« Reply #218 on: June 26, 2009, 10:19:47 PM »

39. Ronald Reagan was sworn into office. He nominated Senator Robert Dole for Vice President. However, Reagan's inability to address rising inflation and the recession led to former Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter's election in 1976.

41. Bob Dole's victories in the 1980 Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary made him the front runner and he never looked back. He selected Senator John Tower as his running mate. While Dole is regarded as a popular President, his balance the budget approach to the economy over tax cuts and increased spending on defense resulted in record high budget deficits.

42. John Tower and his running mate Jack Kemp would enjoy a comfortable victory over the Dukakis/Bentsen ticket in 1988. The stress of handling the Gulf War with Iraq and his alcoholism, a worst kept secret in politics, resulted in his fatal heart attack two weeks before the end of the Gulf War.

43. On February 28, 1991, President Kemp announced the victory over Iraq as it was forced out of Kuwait. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld wanted to continue to march into Baghdad and remove Saddam Hussein. But Kemp sided with General Colin Powell and overruled Rumsfeld. Kemp's popularity ratings peaked at 88 percent but the recession proved to be an Achilles heel.

45. John Warner, former Vice President (1991-1993) and unsuccesful 1996 Republican nominee, declined to run again in 2000. Senator John McCain made the race and won nearly every primary. He selected Texas Governor Kay Bailey Hutchison as his running mate. McCain defeated Vice President Gore in a landslide. President McCain was re-elected in 2004 thanks to succesfully leading the US-led coalition to victory over al Qaeda and the Taliban in the War on Terror in Afghanistan. Despite pleas from conservatives to invade Iraq, McCain refused to do so. Nevertheless, covert CIA gun running operations in the Shiite and Kurdish parts of Iraq led to a rebellion that overthrew Saddam in October 2004 and the triumphant return of Ahmed Chalabi to Baghdad. He was named provisional President of Iraq and elected in his own right in 2005. In his second term, McCain suffered a loss in political capital by invading Iran, which unlike Iraq had admitted having a nuclear program. After two months of warfare, American tanks entered Teheran on October 31, 2005. Newly elected Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad fled Teheran but was caught by British soldiers in Isfahan. But Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei chose a martyr's death as his basij militia bodyguards fought to the death in a gunfight with American Marines in Qom. Former President Abolhassan Banisadr returned to Teheran in January 2006 after nearly 25 years in exile in France. McCain allowed Banisadr to assume a provisional Presidency of Iran. However with American troops bogged down in Iran and fighting guerillas from the disbanded Revolutionary Guards, McCain's popularity fell and the Democrats regained its Congressional majorities after the Novermber 2006 elections. The stress of dealing with Iran led to a fatal heart attack for McCain.

46. Hutchison became the first female President of the United States and promised to continue McCain's policies. By November 2008, over 5,000 American troops died since the invasion of Iran. Former Vice President Gore decided to return to political life and easily breezed through the primaries. He selected Senator Barack Obama of Illinois as his running mate and promised to bring the troops home from Iran if elected President. Gore defeated Hutchison in a landslide as he swept the Northeast and run every Southern state (except Texas). Two weeks later, former Majlis Speaker Mehdi Karroubi, a moderate, was elected President of Iran after Banisadr decided to retire.
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« Reply #219 on: June 26, 2009, 11:36:41 PM »

Here is a quick list a whiped up based on if President Carter was Assasinated in 1979...

Jimmie’s Gone

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI): August 9th 1974-January 20th 1977
39. James E. “Jimmy” Carter (D-GA): January 20th 1977-May 5th 1979*
40. Walter Mondale (D-MN): May 5th 1979-January 20th 1989

41. George Deukmejian (R-CA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997*
42. Nancy L. K. Baker (R-KA): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2001*

43. Julian Bond (D-GA): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009*
44. Eric Cantor (R-VA): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

39. Assassinated by Raymond Lee Harvey in Los Angeles, California.
41. First Armenian-American President.
42. First Female President.
43. First African-American President.
44. First Jewish President.
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« Reply #220 on: June 27, 2009, 09:37:45 PM »

Romney in 1968

Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) / Nelson Rockefeller (D-NY) 1963-1969

George Romney (R-MI) / Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1969-1977
Scoop Jackson (D-WA) / Jimmy Carter (D-AL) 1977-1979 *
Jimmy Carter (D-AL) / Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1979-1981
Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Chic Hecht (R-NV) 1981-1989
Chic Hecht (R-NV) / Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1989-1997
Al Gore (D-TN) / Bob Graham(D-FL) 1997-2005
Joe Lieberman (D-CT) / John McCain (R-AZ) 2005-2006 *
John McCain (R-AZ) / George W. Bush (R-TX) 2006-2007 *
George W. Bush (R-TX) / Mike Huckabee (R-LA) 2007- Current

* Scoop Jackson dies of drug overdose. He overdosed on prescription drugs that were illegally given to him. Dr. Morgan Johs is now on Death Row for the death of Jackson
* Lieberman is killed by Tony Villgroasa, his Military aide.
* McCain dies after  visiting Gov. Schwarzenegger in California. He died of  a severe heart attack.
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« Reply #221 on: June 29, 2009, 03:18:36 PM »

Here is a new list...Based on if Teddy never makes his promise not to seek a third term, and runs/wins the 1908 election.

Teddy's Game

25. William McKinley Jr. (R-OH): March 4th 1897-September 14th 1901
26. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY): September 14th 1901-October 12th 1912*
27. Charles W. Fairbanks (R-IN):  October 12th 1912-March 4th 1913
28. Robert M. Lafollette (R-WI): March 4th 1913-March 4th 1917

29. James B. “Champ” Clark (D-MO): March 4th 1917-March 2nd 1921*
30. Judson Harmon (D-OH): March 2nd 1921-March 4th 1925

31. Hiram Johnson (R-CA): March 4th 1925-March 4th 1933
32. Albert C. Ritchie (D-MD): March 4th 1933-Feburary 23rd 1936*
33. William G. McAdoo (D-CA): February 23rd 1936-Feburary 1st 1941*
34. James A. “Jim” Farley (D-NY): February 1st 1941-January 20th 1949

35. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
36. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20th 1957-January 20th 1961

37. Robert B. Meyner (D-NJ): January 20th 1961-May 27th 1962*
38. J. William Fulbright (D-AK): May 27th 1962-January 20th 1969

39. William W. Scranton (R-PA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
40. Robert C. Byrd (D-WV): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
41. Elliot L. Richardson (R-MA): January 20th 1981-December 30th 1985*
42. Robert H. Fitch (R-CA): December 30th 1985-January 20th 1989

43. Bruce E. Babbitt (D-AZ): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997
44. Richard G. “Dick” Lugar (R-ID): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2001
45. Caroll A. Campbell Jr. (D-SC): January 20th 2001-December 7th 2005*
46. Arlen Specter (D-PA): December 7th 2005-January 20th 2009

47. Cory A. Booker (R-NJ): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

25. Assassinated as in OTL
26. Assassinated by John Schrank in Milwaukee, Wisconsin on the campaign trail for Republican nominee Senator Lafollette.   
29. Died in office.
32. Died in office due to a cerebral hemorrhage.
33. Died in office due to a massive heart attack. 
37. Assassinated by Richard Pavlick while vacationing in Palm Beach, Florida.
41. Assassinated by crazed Nuclear-freeze advocates in New York City, New York.
45. Died in office due to a massive heart attack.
47. First African American President.
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« Reply #222 on: June 29, 2009, 06:27:06 PM »

A lot of people seem to die in your timelines Historico.
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« Reply #223 on: June 29, 2009, 07:49:46 PM »

Call me crazy, but I'm contemplating making a What-If scenario based off of this.
Go for it! I would love such a timeline.
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« Reply #224 on: July 01, 2009, 11:41:28 AM »

Give 'em hell Jerry!

POD Ford wins in 1976.

Gerald Ford (R-MI) (1974-1981)
Edward "Ted" Kennedy (D-MA) (1981)*
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) (1981-1989)
Gary Hart (D-CO) (1989-1993)
Pete Wilson (R-CA) (1993-2001)
Albert Gore (D-TN) (2001=2009)
Willard "Mitt" Romney (R-MA) (2009-

* Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr.  on March 30th, 1981.

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