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« Reply #2050 on: January 10, 2017, 04:07:14 PM »

List of Presidents
33. Henry Wallace (D-NY) - 1945-1949
34. Robert Taft (R-OH) - 1949-1953
35. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) - 1953-1961
36. Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 1961-1969
37. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 1969-1973
38. Mark Hatfield (R-OR) - 1973-1981
39. Jerry Brown (D-CA) - 1981-1989
40. John Glenn (D-OH) - 1989-1993
41. H. Ross Perot (R-TX) - 1993-2001
42. Douglas Wilder (D-VA) - 2001-2007
43. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2007-2009
44. Melissa Hart (R-PA) - 2009-2017
45. Ben Jealous (D-MD) - 2017-2021
46. Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 2021-2025
47. Ben Jealous (D-MD) - 2025-2029
48. Jack Stevens* (R-OH) - 2029-2037

List of Vice Presidents
34. Harold Ickes (D-PA) - 1945-1949
35. Joseph Martin (R-MA) - 1949-1953
36. Robert Kerr (D-OK) - 1953-1961
37. Henry Cabot Lodge (D-MA) - 1961-1969
38. Edmund Muskie (D-ME) - 1969-1973
39. Howard Baker (R-TN) - 1973-1981
40. John Glenn (D-OH) -1981-1989
41. Al Gore (D-TN) - 1989-1993
42. Trent Lott (R-MS) - 1993-2001
43. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2001-2007
44. Skip Humphrey (D-MN) - 2008-2009
45. J.C. Watts (R-OK) - 2009-2017
46. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 2017-2021
47. Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 2021-2025
48. John Chisholm (D-WI) - 2025-2029
49. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) - 2029-2037
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« Reply #2051 on: January 10, 2017, 04:55:07 PM »

1913-1919: Theodore Roosevelt1/Hiram Johnson
1919-1925: Hiram Johnson/Calvin Coolidge
1925-1933: Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis
1933-1941: Franklin D. Roosevelt/John Nance Garner
1941-1949: Wendell Willkie/Earl Warren
1949-1953: Alben W. Barkley/Harry S. Truman2
1953-1961: Earl Warren/Thomas E. Dewey
1961-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1969-1973: John F. Kennedy/John Connally2
1973-1978: Nelson Rockefeller3/George Romney (1973-1977), Gerald Ford (1977-1978)
1978-1981: Gerald Ford4/Richard Schweiker (appointed)
1981-1985: Hugh Carey/Walter Mondale2
1985-1989: Donald Rumsfeld/Bob Dole2
1989-1997: Lawton Chiles/Lloyd Bentsen
1997-2005: Richard Lugar/Elizabeth Dole
2005-2009: John Kerry/Bill Graham2
2009-2017: Jon Huntsman/George Pataki
2017-2025: Kirsten Gillibrand/Jay Nixon


1= Died in office; January 6, 1919
2= Defeated for reelection
3= Died of a heart attack; October 20, 1978
4= Did not seek renomination due to challenge from Ronald Reagan
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« Reply #2052 on: January 11, 2017, 01:45:41 AM »

35. John F. Kennedy [D-MA] (1961-1963†) / Lyndon B. Johnson [D-TX] (1961-1963)
36. Lyndon B. Johnson [D-TX] (1963-1973) / none, Hubert H. Humphrey [D-MN] (1965-1973)
37. Robert F. Kennedy [D-NY] (1973-1981) / Hubert H. Humphrey [D-MN] (1973-1981)
38. Ronald Reagan [R-CA] (1981†) / George H. W. Bush [R-TX] (1981)
39. George H. W. Bush [R-TX] (1981-1985) / Gerald R. Ford [R-MI] (1981-1985)
40. Howard Baker [R-TN] (1985-1993) / Bob Dole [R-KS] (1985-1993)
41. Bob Dole [R-KS] (1993-2001) / Dan Quayle [R-IN] (1993-2001)
42. Patricia Schroeder [D-CO] (2001-2009) / Al Gore [D-TN] (2001-2009)
43. Bill Richardson [D-NM] (2009-2017) / Barack Obama [D-IL] (2009-2013), Alex Sink [D-FL] (2013-2017)
44. Barack Obama [D-IL] (2017-2021) / Martin O'Malley [D-MD] (2017-2021)
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« Reply #2053 on: January 23, 2017, 02:37:37 AM »

No 22nd Amendment, and every president seeks as many terms as possible:

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) 1933-1945
33. Harry Truman (D-MO) 1945-1953
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-KS) 1953-1963
35. Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1963-1974
36. Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1974-1977
37. Jimmy Carter (D-GA) 1977-1981
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 1981-1993
39. Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1993-2009
40. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2009-present
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« Reply #2054 on: January 23, 2017, 06:27:43 PM »

Democratic President Reagan

Ronald Reagan (D-CA)/Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy: 1981-1989
Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy (D-MA)/Jerry Brown (D-CA): 1989-1993

Robert J. "Bob" Dole (R-KS)/Jack Kemp (R-NY): 1993-2001
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN): 2001-2009
J.C. Watts (R-OK)/Mitt Romney (R-MA): 2009-2017
Donald Trump (D-NY)/Michael T. Flynn (D-RI): 2017-Now
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« Reply #2055 on: January 25, 2017, 12:15:34 AM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
35. John F. Kennedy (Democratic-Massachusetts) 1961-1965
36. Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York) 1965-1969
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic-Minnesota) 1969-1977
38. John B. Anderson (Republican-Illinois) 1977-1985
39. Richard G. Lugar (Republican-Indiana) 1985-1989
40. Mario Cuomo (Democratic-New York) 1989-1993
41. Robert J. Dole (Republican-Kansas) 1993-1997
42. John F. Kerry (Democratic-Massachusetts) 1997-2005
43. Thomas R. Harkin (Democratic-Iowa) 2005-2009
44. John S. McCain (Republican-Arizona) 2009-2017
45. Joseph R. Biden (Democratic-Delaware) 2017-incumbent
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« Reply #2056 on: January 27, 2017, 08:29:45 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic-New York) 1933 - 1934
33. Smedley D. Butler (Military, Socialist-Pennsylvania) 1934 - 1940 [1]
34. Norman Thomas (Socialist-New York) 1940 - 1949
35. Thomas E. Dewey (Progressive Conservative-New York) 1949 - 1953
36. Darlington Hoopes (Socialist-Pennsylvania) 1953 - 1957
37. Margaret Chase Smith (Progressive Conservative-Maine) 1957 - 1965
38. George W. Romney (Progressive Conservative-Michigan) 1965 - 1969
39. George McGovern (Socialist-South Dakota) 1969 - 1977
40. Frank F. Church (Socialist-Idaho) 1977 - 1984
41. Barry Commoner (Socialist-Missouri) 1984 - 1985
42. John B. Anderson (Progressive Conservative-Illinois) 1965 - 1993
43. James M. Jeffords (Progressive Conservative-Vermont) 1993 - 1997
44. Ralph Nader (Environmental Democrats-Connecticut) 1997 - 2001
45. James M. Jeffords (Progressive Conservative-Vermont) 2001 - 2005
46. W. Mitt Romney (Progressive Conservative-Massachusetts) 2005 - 2009
47. Bernard Sanders (Socialist-Vermont) 2009 - 2017
48. Sherrod Brown (Socialist-Ohio) 2017 - incumbent

[1] Installed as president following the successful November Coup against Franklin Roosevelt's administration, Butler soon turned on the conservative nationalists who had organized the coup and aligned himself with the political left. After successfully suppressing an attempted second coup in 1936, he restored constitutional government in his will, designating Secretary of State Norman Thomas as his successor.
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« Reply #2057 on: January 27, 2017, 11:41:33 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2017, 11:47:01 PM by SunriseAroundTheWorld »

A More Hawkish Nation:
33rd President: Harry Truman, D-Missouri/Alben Barkley, D-Kentucky: 1945-1953
34th President: Thomas Dewey, R-New York/Harold Stassen, R-Minnesota: 1953-1961
35th President: Henry "Scoop" Jackson, D-Washington/Stu Symington, D-Missouri: 1961-1969
36th President: George Romney, R-Michigan/Mark Hatfield, R-Oregon: 1969-1973 * Lost Re-election
37th President: Eugene McCarthy, D-Minnesota/George McGovern, D-South Dakota: 1973-1977 * Lost Re-election
38th President: Ronald Reagan, R-California/Jack Kemp, R-New York: 1977-1985
39th President: Daniel Patrick Moynihan, D-New York/Lloyd Bentsen, D-Texas: 1985-1993
40th President: Jack Kemp, R-New York/George W. Bush, R-Texas: 1993-1997 *Kemp retires due to health concerns.
41st President: George W. Bush, R-Texas/John Danforth, R-Missouri: 1997-2005
42nd President: Joe Lieberman, D-Connecticut/Patty Murray, D-Washington: 2005-2013
43rd President: Kirsten Gillibrand, D-New York/Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio: 2013-2017 * Lost re-election
44th President: Marco Rubio, R-Florida/Nikki Haley, R-South Carolina: 2017-Current


Will post a write up of the wacky happenings off this alternate history. Nevermind, I had it copied; ready to post it and then I copied and pasted something else on a different tab lol. I'll do a write up later if i feel like it.
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« Reply #2058 on: January 28, 2017, 01:16:39 PM »

No 22nd Amendment, and every president seeks as many terms as possible:

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) 1933-1945
33. Harry Truman (D-MO) 1945-1953
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-KS) 1953-1963
35. Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1963-1974
36. Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1974-1977
37. Jimmy Carter (D-GA) 1977-1981
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 1981-1993
39. Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1993-2009
40. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2009-present

I dont think IKE or Reagan run again they were too old by the time they left and their health were quickly deteriorating. 
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« Reply #2059 on: January 28, 2017, 01:30:37 PM »

44. Howard Dean / Tom Vilsack 2005-2009
45. Rick Santorum / Ken Blackwell 2009-2013
46. Barack Obama / Evan Bayh 2013-2021
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« Reply #2060 on: January 28, 2017, 04:38:07 PM »


46. Senator Elizabeth Warren and Professor Lawrence Lessig
47. Senator Kamala Harris and Senator Jason Kander
48. Entrepreneur Peter Thiel and Senator Joni Ernst
49. Vice President Jason Kander and Representative Tulsi Gabbard
50. Senator Tom Cotton and Governor George P. Bush
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« Reply #2061 on: January 28, 2017, 09:28:35 PM »


46. Senator Elizabeth Warren and Professor Lawrence Lessig
47. Senator Kamala Harris and Senator Jason Kander
48. Entrepreneur Peter Thiel and Senator Joni Ernst
49. Vice President Jason Kander and Representative Tulsi Gabbard
50. Senator Tom Cotton and Governor George P. Bush

What years?
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« Reply #2062 on: January 29, 2017, 11:29:15 AM »

Underneath the Red, White and Blue: A not-too-probable timeline.

45. Donald J. Trump/Michael R. Pence   Jan. 20 2017-June 22 2017*
46. Michael R. Pence/Nikki Haley           June 22 2017-May 7 2018**
47. Rex Tillerson/Tulsi Gabbard             May 7 2018-Jan. 1 2021***
---Era of the Russo-American Co-Dominion January 1 2021-----

*Declared incapacitated after First Chinese Crisis (Trump almost launches an EMP on maineland China before Mattis forced him to back off)
**Pence, Haley (sworn in Sep. 14 2017), Ryan and Hatch were all killed at a Provo rally for Hatch's primary campaign by a "rogue actor"
***Gabbard selected in a bipartisan gesture by Tillerson and newly-elected House Speaker Dana Rohrabacher.
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« Reply #2063 on: January 29, 2017, 11:44:31 AM »


46. Senator Elizabeth Warren and Professor Lawrence Lessig
47. Senator Kamala Harris and Senator Jason Kander
48. Entrepreneur Peter Thiel and Senator Joni Ernst
49. Vice President Jason Kander and Representative Tulsi Gabbard
50. Senator Tom Cotton and Governor George P. Bush

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« Reply #2064 on: January 30, 2017, 08:20:18 PM »

37. Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) (Jan. 20, 1969 - Oct. 10, 1973)
---. Richard Nixon (R-CA)/VACANT (Oct. 10, 1973 - Dec. 6, 1973)
---. Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Connally (R-TX) (Dec. 6, 1973 - Jan. 20, 1977)
38. John Connally (R-TX)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) (Jan. 20, 1977 - Jan. 20, 1981)
39. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Gary Hart (D-CO) (Jan. 20, 1981 - Jan. 20, 1989)
40. Gary Hart (D-CO)/Andrew Young (D-GA) (Jan. 20, 1989 - Jan. 20, 1997)
41. Lamar Alexander (R-TN)/Steve Forbes (R-NY) (Jan. 20, 1997 - Jan. 20, 2005)
42. Steve Forbes (R-NY)/Dick Lugar (R-IN) (Jan. 20, 2005 - Jan. 20, 2009)
43. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Dick Gephardt (D-MO) (Jan. 20, 2009 - Jan. 20, 2017)
44. Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/Martin O'Malley (D-MD) (Jan. 20, 2017 - present)
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« Reply #2065 on: January 30, 2017, 10:33:29 PM »

GORE WINS FLORIDA!

2004:


Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) 343 EV, 51.8% PV
President Al Gore (D-TN)/Vice President Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 195 EV, 47.7% PV
Following 9/11, Americans think President Gore has been too soft on terror and overwhelmingly go for the hawkish Republican ticket.

2008:

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV): 314 EV, 50.2% PV
President John McCain (R-AZ)/Vice President Rudy Giuliani (R-NY): 224 EV, 48.0% PV

With the weak economy, President McCain becomes a one-term president

2012:

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI): 291 EV, 49.2% PV
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Jay Rockefeller (D-WV): 247 EV, 49.1% PV

With the economy still somewhat sluggish and President Clinton having had personal scandals, Mitt Romney prevails to become the 46th President of the United States.

2016:

President Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Vice President Paul Ryan (R-WI): 355 EV, 53.9% PV
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY): 183 EV, 45.7% PV

President Romney is popular and overwhelmingly reelected.
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« Reply #2066 on: January 30, 2017, 10:46:01 PM »

Wrong thread; you're looking for this.
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« Reply #2067 on: February 08, 2017, 08:58:06 PM »



Was too lazy to type this in here so I uploaded it to the gallery. I looked back a few dozen pages and started making a alternate presidents since starting at the very beginning.

Federalist Party
= 1789-1829 (the remnants join the Democratic Party)
Constitutionalist Party = 1792-1859 (remnants join the American Unity Party)
Democratic Party = 1822-1835
Northern Democratic Party = 1835-1856; 1859-1859 (Anti-Slavery factions join Unity; Pro-Slavery joins Southern Dems)
Southern Democratic Party = 1835-1856; 1859-1861 (Secedes w/ the South; banned in U.S.A)
* Renamed the Confederate Nationalist Party in the short-lived C.S.A. (1861-1865)
United Democratic Alliance = 1856-1859
American Unity Party = 1859-Current
Peace & Freedom Party = 1861-1875 (as major party); 1875-Current (third party)
The Southern Party = 1868-1885
The Liberty Bell Party = 1873-Current
Progressive Party = 1931-1949 (more left-leaning members of the Liberty Bell Party formed this third party)
* Merges back in w/ the Liberty Bell Party
Social Justice Union Party = 1935-1945 (formed by hard-left populists; stealing votes from Liberty Bell and Progressives)
* Disbanded in 1945 after membership shifted towards Communist Party
The American Patriots Party = 1950-1957 (split off from American Unity Party; Far-right party led by Joe McCarthy/William Jenner)
The Conservative Party = 1953-1974 (Former Pres. Taft created this party to separate conservatism from McCarthyism)
* Aligned w/ American Unity party until 1964
* Merges back in w/ American Unity Party in 1974 in an attempt to gain seats in midterm elections
Independence Party (1995-Current)

I'll make another post after this that shows the major leaders of the post-WW2 parties (including Speakers, Senate leaders, some Governors etc...)

I'll also give some info about some of the whacky things that occurred in this timeline in that other post.
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« Reply #2068 on: February 10, 2017, 08:28:06 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2017, 08:40:23 PM by SunriseAroundTheWorld »



Here's the Alternate Speaker's list that coincides with my Alternate Presidents list.

1987-2033 both parties equally controlled the House. This time period is the period where I have rampant polarization occur in the political system.

Will be working on a Senate Maj Leader list next.

NOTE: Independence Party has little to no real success in the House, which is why they are invisible on my Speaker's list. They focused more on having influence in the Senate due to its importance to SCOTUS picks and Cabinet picks.

Independence Party had about 15-20 seats in the House in 2012 elections - when they won the White House - but it was not enough to cause a minority-led leadership team. They only had 5 seats in the House after the 2014 elections and 0 seats after 2016.

EDIT: Also, I didn't feel like having to do the research to do Speakers pre-civil war. I only knew enough to make a decent Pres list from that time period lol. Same will be the case for the Senate Maj list.
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« Reply #2069 on: February 12, 2017, 03:08:57 PM »




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« Reply #2070 on: February 13, 2017, 08:56:20 PM »

Rerunning an old theme I've toyed with.

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1953-1955
35. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1955-1957
36. Adlai E. Stevenson, II (Democrat-Illinois)/Estes Kefauver (Democrat-Tennessee) 1957-1961
37. Cecil H. Underwood (Republican-West Virginia)/Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois) 1961-1963
38. Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois)/Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York) 1963-1969
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/George Bush (Republican-Texas) 1969-1973
40. John F. Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Thomas Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri) 1973-1981
41. John B. Anderson (Republican-Illinois)/Mark O. Hatfield (Republican-Oregon) 1981-1989
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« Reply #2071 on: February 15, 2017, 01:42:35 PM »

Rerunning an old theme I've toyed with.

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1953-1955
35. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1955-1957
36. Adlai E. Stevenson, II (Democrat-Illinois)/Estes Kefauver (Democrat-Tennessee) 1957-1961
37. Cecil H. Underwood (Republican-West Virginia)/Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois) 1961-1963
38. Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois)/Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York) 1963-1969
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/George Bush (Republican-Texas) 1969-1973
40. John F. Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Thomas Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri) 1973-1981
41. John B. Anderson (Republican-Illinois)/Mark O. Hatfield (Republican-Oregon) 1981-1989

JFK in the 70s.... that would've been something to see.
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« Reply #2072 on: February 15, 2017, 06:54:03 PM »

Rerunning an old theme I've toyed with.

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1953-1955
35. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California) 1955-1957
36. Adlai E. Stevenson, II (Democrat-Illinois)/Estes Kefauver (Democrat-Tennessee) 1957-1961
37. Cecil H. Underwood (Republican-West Virginia)/Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois) 1961-1963
38. Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois)/Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York) 1963-1969
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/George Bush (Republican-Texas) 1969-1973
40. John F. Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Thomas Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri) 1973-1981
41. John B. Anderson (Republican-Illinois)/Mark O. Hatfield (Republican-Oregon) 1981-1989

JFK in the 70s.... that would've been something to see.

Very broken down and rather useless toward the end of his term, as his illness eerily matched the decay of the American economy.
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« Reply #2073 on: February 15, 2017, 10:19:55 PM »

List of Presidents
37. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 1969-1973
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) - 1973-1981
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) - 1981-1981
40. Lloyd Bentesen (D-TX) - 1981-1989
41. Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 1989-1993
42. Kit Bond (R-MO) - 1993-2001
43. Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 2001-2009
44. Michael Steele (R-MD) - 2009-2017
45. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 2017-Onwards

List of Vice Presidents
39. Edmund Muskie (D-ME) - 1969-1973
40. Charles Percy (R-IL) - 1973-1981
41. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) - 1981-1981
42. Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 1982-1989
43. Al Gore (D-TN) - 1989-1993
44. Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 1993-2001
45. John Kerry (D-MA) - 2001-2009
46. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - 2009-2017
47. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 2017-Onwards

Defeated Tickets
1968 - Nixon/Agnew, Wallace/LeMay
1972 - Humphrey/Muskie
1976 - Udall/Carter
1980 - Percy/Dole
1984 - Crane/Kassebaum
1988 - Deukmejian/Quayle
1992 - Mondale/Gore, Trump/Stockdale
1996 - Mitchell/Blanchard
2000 - McCain/Dole
2004 - Allen/Frist
2008 - Kerry/Edwards (no, srsly)
2012 - Obama/Bayh
2016 - Romney/Ryan
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« Reply #2074 on: February 19, 2017, 02:53:26 AM »

Bush wins 1992(There has to be no perot or Clinton in this   )


1992:



Bush 290
Brown 248


So this is how it would go


List of Presidents

41. George Bush(R-TX) - 1989-1997
42. Bob Dole(R-KS) - 1997-2001
43. Ann Richards(D-TX)- 2001-2009
44. Jeb Bush(R-FL)- 2009-2017
45. Joe Biden(D-DE)- 2017-Present
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