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« Reply #725 on: February 17, 2011, 07:43:04 AM »

The Rise of the American Fascism

31st: Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA), 1929-1933
32nd: John N. Garner (D-TX), 1933-1936
Acting: William B. Bankhead (D-AL), 1936
Acting: Ellison D. Smith (D-SC), 1936-1937
33rd: William A. Murray (N-OK), 1937-1943
34th: Patrick A. McCarran (N-NV), 1943-1950
Acting: Martin Dies, Jr. (N-TX), 1950
35th: Douglas MacArthur (N-AR), 1950-1958
36th: John C. Stennis (N-MS), 1958-1961
Acting: Martin Dies, Jr. (N-TX), 1961-1962
37th: George W. Romney (N-MI), 1962-1965
38th: John W. Patterson (N-AL), 1965-1970
Acting: Otis R. Bowen (N-IN), 1970
39th: George L. Rockwell (N-VA), 1970-1982
40th: Jesse Helms (N-NC), 1983
41st: William C. Westmoreland (N-SC), 1983-1989
Acting: Jefferson B. Sessions (N-AL), 1989

32nd: Outset and summarily executed
Acting(1): Speaker of the House, briefly acted between Garner outsing and his own arrest
Acting(2): Senate President pro tempore, acted for the rest of the term until a new administration of the National Party was installed
33rd: Died in office in a Middle of American-Commonwealth War
34th: Succeeded the Presidency. The first Irish American President was forcibly retired by General Douglas MacArthur
Acting(3): Speaker of the House, acted for few hours as President between McCarran "retirement" and MacArthur investiture
35th: President MacArthur, who turned the National Party dictatorship into a military one, was assassinated by an urban guerrillas
36th: A moderate member of the National Party, Stennis reinstated civilian rule, but, despite not even attempting to reform the dictatorship, was outset by the, supported by military, "Young Turks" in 1961 and quickly executed
Acting(4): Speaker Died again, this time for a three months, served as Acting President
37th: An opportunistic Michigan Governor, Romney has been chosen by a coup leaders to serve as President, while real power remained in their hands. Romney was the first Northerner to hold the office since Murray accession
38th: A leader of the "Young Turks", former Alabama Governor John Patterson assumed the formal powers ans served until his own forcible retirement in 1970
Acting(5): Senate President pro tempore, Otis R. Bowen, acted for few hours during a coup, as both Vice President and Speaker were already detained
39th: Admiral Rockwell, Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff and former MacArthur's adjutant, removed President Patterson from power over his conduct of the Mexican War, bringing the military dictatorship in a National Party disguise again. President Rockwell, self-styled "Generalissimo", was assassinated in 1982 in New York.
40th: Rockwell's civilian Vice President, Jesse Helms, has been quietly "retired" by military again after three months in power
41st: General Westmoreland essentially presided over the decline, in a wake of an both organized opposition and guerrilla fights, of the National rule. In 1989, he suddenly escaped to Chile, being granted asylum by his good pal, General Pinochet
Acting(6): With Westmoreland government collapse, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the highest remaining official in place, acted for over a month as President, before surrendering to the resistance forces
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« Reply #726 on: February 17, 2011, 01:42:35 PM »
« Edited: February 18, 2011, 11:18:16 AM by EvilSpaceAlien »

A list of President of United States in a world where Teddy is elected in 1912 and as a result of that, as well as an even worse recession that delivers Uptons Sinclair of the Socialists to the White House, American politics takes a turn to the left. Probably a pretty implausible list, but I was bored so why not?

1913: Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Hiram Johnson (P-CA)
1914: Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Robert M. La Follette Sr. (P-WI)
1921: Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Robert M. La Follette Sr. (P-WI)

1925: Calvin Coolidge (R-VT)/Frank Orren Lowden (R-IL)
1929: Calvin Coolidge (R-VT)*/Frank Orren Lowden (R-IL)
1931: Frank Orren Lowden (R-IL)/Herbert Hoover (R-CA)

1933: Upton Sinclair (S-CA)/Norman Thomas (S-NY)
1937: Upton Sinclair (S-CA/Norman Thomas (S-NY)

1941: Franklin D. Roosevelt (P-NY)/Robert M. La Follette Jr. (P-WI)
1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt (P-NY)*/Robert M. La Follette Jr. (P-WI)
1947: Robert M. La Follette Jr. (P-WI)/Joseph P. Kennedy (P-MA)
1949: Robert M. La Follette Jr. (P-WI)/Joseph P. Kennedy (P-MA)
1953: Robert M. La Follettte Jr. (P-WI)/Joseph P. Kennedy (P-MA)

1957: Harold Stassen (LC-MN)/Estes Kefauver (LC-TN)
1961: Harold Stassen (LC-MN)/George Wallace (LC-AL)
1965: George Wallace (LC-AL)**/William Scranton (LC-PA)

1969: Samuel H. Friedman (SD-NY)/Ronald Reagan (SD-CA)
1971: Samuel H. Friedman (SD-NY)/Ronald Reagan (SD-CA)

1977: Edward Kennedy (P-MA)/Gary Hart (P-CO)
1981: Ronald Reagan (SD-CA)/Geraldine Ferraro (SD-NY)
1985: Ronald Reagan (SD-CA)/Geraldine Ferraro (SD-NY)

1989: Robert Dole (L-KS)/George H.W. Bush (L-TX)
1993: Robert Dole (L-KS)/George H.W. Bush (L-TX)

1997: William Clinton (P-AR)/Thomas A. Daschle (P-SD)
2001: William Clinton (P-AR)/Thomas A. Daschle (P-SD)
2005: William Clinton (P-AR)/Joseph P. Biden (P-MD)

2009: Richard Cheney (L-WY)/Lamar Alexander (L-TN)
2013: Albert Gore (P-TN)/Jesse Jackson Jr. (SD-AL)***

*President died while in office.
**Scary thought, isn't it?
***The 2012 election was a problematic one, with neither candidate reaching the necessary 270 electoral votes to win, so it was up to the house to decide. But no party had a majority, there was only a Progressive plurality so it seemed that it was deadlock. However the Social Democrats and Progressives were able to come to an agreement which meant that Progressive candidate Al Gore who won the popular vote would be President while Social Democratic VP candidate Jesse Jackson Jr. would become Vice President. So on January 8th, 2013, Al Gore was voted in as President by congress, just in time for the inauguration. Progressive VP nominee Hillary Rodham Clinton would eventually become Secretary of State while Social Democratic presidential candidate Paul Krugman would end up as Secretary of Health and Social Security.

P = Progressive Party
S = Socialist Party
LC = Liberty Coalition (electoral alliance between the Republicans and the Democrats)
SD = Social Democratic Party (successor to the Socialist Party)
L = Liberty Party (successor to the Liberty Coalition)
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« Reply #727 on: February 17, 2011, 07:26:30 PM »
« Edited: February 18, 2011, 10:48:49 AM by ChairmanSanchez »

Four Way Race in 72
1968-Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew
1972-Robert Kennedy/Henry Jackson
1976-Robert Kennedy/Henry Jackson
1980-Henry Jackson/Lloyd Bentsen

1984-John Danforth/Richard Lugar
1988-John Danforth/Richard Lugar

1992-Ross Perot/Jerry Brown
1996-Ross Perot/Jerry Brown

2000-Jack Kemp/David Vitter
2004-Jack Kemp/David Vitter

2008-John Kerry/Wesley Clark

Defeated Tickets
1968-Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie-George Wallace/Curtis LeMay
1972-Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew-George Wallace/Lestor Maddox-Eugene McCarthy/George McGovern
1976-Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker
1980-Richard Schweiker/Bob Dole

1984-Henry Jackson/Lloyd Bentsen-Ed Clark/Ron Paul
1988-Edward Kennedy/Dick Gephardt
1992-Richard Lugar/Bob Dole-Al Gore/Bill Clinton
1996-Richard Lugar/Duncan Hunter-Bill Clinton/Paul Simon
2000-Bill Bradley/John Edwards
2004-John Edwards/John Kennedy Jr.

2008-David Vitter/Peter King

Blue-Republican
Red-Democrat
Navy-Patriot
Purple-Progressive Peoples Party
Orange-Libertarian
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« Reply #728 on: February 19, 2011, 07:24:36 PM »

1969 Referendum Passes
1. Charles de Gaulle (UNR/UDR): 1958-1970
2. Maurice Couve de Murville (UDR): 1970-1977
3. Francois Mitterand (PS): 1977-1984
4. Raymond Barre (CR)*: 1984-1998
5. Lionel Jospin (PS)#: 1998-2008
6. Francois Bayrou (CR): 2008-Present

*=CR stands for Republican Center, a coalition similar to the UDF in OTL
#=Under Jospin, electoral terms are cut to five years.
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« Reply #729 on: February 19, 2011, 11:02:59 PM »

The Rise of the Libertarian Party

34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) 1949-1957
35. Adlai E Stevenson (D-IL)/Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX) 1957-1964*
36. Lynson B Johnson/vacant, John F Kennedy (D-MA) 1964-1969

37. Charles Percy (R-IL)/John Lindsay (R-NY) 1969-1977
38. George Wallace (D-AL)/George Smathers (D-FL) 1977-1981
39. Barry Goldwater (L-AZ)/Roger MacBride (L-VA) 1981-1989**
40. Robert Finch (R-CA)/Charles Matthias (R-MD) 1989-1993
41. Robert P Casey (D-PA)/Douglas Wilder (D-VA) 1993-1999***
42. Douglas Wilder (D-VA)/Mario Cuomo (D-NY) 1999-2001****

43. Ronald Paul (L-TX)/Arthur C Olivier (L-CA) 2001-2005
44. Willard "Mitt" Romney (R-MA)/Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI) 2005-Present*****

*Died of a heart attack
**First Libertarian President
***Died of cancer, first Catholic President, first African American Vice-President
****First African American President
*****First Mormon President
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« Reply #730 on: February 19, 2011, 11:14:49 PM »

Mondales Miracle-Economic crash 1983.

Presidents
1984-Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro
1988-Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro

1992-John McCain/Collin Powell
1996-John McCain/Collin Powell
2000-Collin Powell/George W. Bush

2004-Howard Dean/Paul Wellstone
2008-George W Bush/Mitt Romney

Defeated Tickets
1984-Ronald Reagan/George HW Bush
1988-George HW Bush/Dan Quayle

1992-Geraldine Ferraro/Jesse Jackson
1996-Jesse Jackson/Bernie Sanders
2000-Al Gore/Bill Clinton

2004-Collin Powell/George W. Bush
2008-Howard Dean/Paul Wellstone
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« Reply #731 on: February 20, 2011, 11:50:36 AM »
« Edited: February 25, 2011, 04:55:06 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

Welcome Back Carter!-Reagan Scandel in 1980
1976-Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale
1980-Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale*
1981-Walter Mondale/vacant

1984-George HW Bush/Howard Baker
1988-George HW Bush/Howard Baker

1992-Edward Kennedy/Bill Clinton
1996-Edward Kennedy/Bill Clinton

2000-John Kasich/George W Bush
2004-Howard Dean/Russ Feingold
2008-George W Bush/Tom Ridge

*Carter is shot and killed by John Hinckley Jr.

Defeated Tickets
1976-Gerald Ford/Bob Dole
1980-Ronald Reagan/George HW Bush

1984-Walter Mondale/Ernest Holling
1988-John Glenn/Gary Hart

1992-Howard Baker/Bob Dole
1996-Lamar Alexander/Phill Gramm

2000-Bill Clinton/Jay Rockefeller
2004-John Kasich/George W Bush
2008-Howard Dean/Russ Feingold
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« Reply #732 on: February 28, 2011, 11:31:58 PM »
« Edited: March 01, 2011, 06:45:40 PM by Dallasfan65 »

34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) January 20th, 1949 - January 20th, 1953
35. Samuel Rayburn (D-TX)/Theodore F. Green (D-RI) January 20th, 1953 - January 20th, 1961
36. William F. Knowland (R-CA)/Kenneth Keating (R-NY) January 20th, 1960 - January 20th, 1968
37. George A. Smathers (D-FL)/Michael DiSalle (D-OH) January 20th, 1968 - January 20th, 1973
38. Raymond P. Shafer (R-PA)/Clifford Hansen (R-WY) January 20th, 1973 - January 20th, 1981
39. Dixy Lee Ray (D-WA)/Dolph Briscoe (D-TX) January 20th, 1981 - January 20th, 1989
40. Mark O. Hatfield (R-OR)/Lamar Alexander (R-TN) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
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« Reply #733 on: March 02, 2011, 10:48:30 PM »

The Assassination of President-Elect JFK
The POD is that Richard Pavlick assassinates Senator John F. Kennedy after he is elected President in 1960.

35. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): 1961-1969
36. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): 1969-1972
37. Melvin Laird (R-WI): 1972-1977

38. Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA): 1977-1985
39. James E. Carter (D-GA): 1985-1989

40. Robert Dole (R-KS): 1989-1993
41. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN): 1993-2001
42. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (D-NY): 2001-2009

43. John E. "Jeb" Bush (R-FL): 2009-President

Notes:
35. Elected President by the Electoral College. Stuart Symington was elected Vice President. LBJ accomplished passing the 1963 Civil Rights Act and a myriad of anti-poverty programs but his administration would be burdened by the quagmire in Cuba. After the successful Bay of Pigs invasion in which Castro was removed from power and replaced by a democratically elected government, US Marines had to battle pro-Castro rebels in the countryside. The Democrats nominated Vice President Symington for POTUS in 1968 but his connection to LBJ proved to be a political liability.

36. Running on a campaign of law and order and bringing an honorable peace in Cuba, President Rockefeller brought the troops home after rebel leader Ernesto "Che" Guevara was killed by US Marines in battle. On the domestic front, Amtrak and the EPA were created. Tragically, Rockefeller was assassinated in New Hampshire in January 1972 by Arthur Bremer.

37. Riding on sympathy for the slain Rockefeller, President Laird pledged to continue his agenda and made a historic visit to China. He easily won a full term that November over Senator George McGovern. But things went downhill after his inauguration. First was the resignation of Vice President Robert Matthias in 1974 over personal scandal. Next came the fall of Laos and Cambodia to the Communists, anti-busing riots, and the drinking problems of Secretary of Defense John Tower. After barely winning the GOP nomination in 1976, Laird lost reelection to Governor Robert F. Kennedy of Massachusetts

38. First Roman Catholic President. Bobby Kennedy was appointed in 1960 to his brother's Senate seat and served there until his election as Governor in 1970.

39. Governor of Georgia (1967-1971), US Senator (1971-1977) and Vice President (1977-1985), Carter won a close race for President in 1984 over Howard Baker. Citing health reasons, President Carter choose not to run for reelection in 1988.

42. Former Senator from New York (1987-1993) and US Attorney General in the Gore administration, RFK Jr. continued the domestic policies of Federalism as advocated by his father and President Carter. Job approval ratings peaked at 90 percent in the aftermath of the 9/11/01 terrorist bombings of the World Trade Center and Pentagon. While the War on Terror removed the Taliban from power in Afghanistan and resulted in the capture (and later execution) of Osama bin Laden, President Kennedy decided to leave Saddam Hussein alone in Iraq (he was overthrown in the 2011 Iraqi Civil War following the resignations of Presidents Ben Ali in Tunisia and Mubarak in Egypt).

US Senators from Massachusetts
Robert F. Kennedy (D): 1960-1971
John Volpe (R): 1971-1977
John Kerry (D): 1977-2001*
Nicole Tsongas (D): 2001-Present**


*resigned to become Secretary of State
**widow of former Senator Paul Tsongas, appointed to the seat by Governor Joe Kennedy

Governors of Massachusetts
John Volpe (R): 1961-1971
Robert F. Kennedy (D): 1971-1977
Michael Dukakis (D): 1977-1983*
Thomas P. O'Neill Jr. (D): 1983-1987**

William Weld (R): 1987-1995
Joseph P. Kennedy II (D): 1995-2003***
Scott Harshbarger (D): 2003-2007

Scott Brown (R): 2007-Present

*elected to the US Senate in 1984 after Paul Tsongas retired
**son of former Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill, did not seek reelection in 1986
***son and brother of Presidents RFK and RFK Jr, elected to US Senate in 2008 after Dukakis retired

Governors of New York
Nelson Rockefeller (R): 1959-1968
Malcolm Wilson (R-C): 1968-1975

Hugh Carey (D): 1975-1981*
Mario Cuomo (D-L): 1981-1991**
Robert Abrams (D-L): 1991-1999

Rudolph Giuliani (R): 1999-2007
Andrew Cuomo (D): 2007-Present

*resigned to become US Attorney General
**appointed to the Supreme Court in 1994, retired in 2006

US Senators from New York
Kenneth Keating (R): 1959-1971
Daniel P. Moynihan (D): 1971-1985*
Karen Burstein (D): 1985-1986**

Sol Wachtler (R): 1986-1995***
Mark Green (D): 1995-2007
Rudolph Giuliani (R): 2007-Present

*Vice President of the US (1985-1989)
**first openly gay US Senator, appointed by Governor Cuomo but lost 1986 special election
***did not seek reelection in 1994 in the wake of a sexual harassment scandal





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« Reply #734 on: March 02, 2011, 11:05:50 PM »

So which State did Carter move to?  Georgia didn't have a Senate election in 1970, so he couldn't have been elected to one there.  (Or did you envisage Carter appointing himself to Russell's seat when he died?)
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« Reply #735 on: March 03, 2011, 08:45:30 AM »

So which State did Carter move to?  Georgia didn't have a Senate election in 1970, so he couldn't have been elected to one there.  (Or did you envisage Carter appointing himself to Russell's seat when he died?)

In this TL, Jimmy Carter wins the Democratic primary in 1966 and is elected Governor of Georgia. He cannot run for re-election in 1970. His successor, Carl Sanders appoints Carter to the Senate after Richard Russell's death in 1971. Carter is elected to a full 6 year term in 1972.
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« Reply #736 on: March 04, 2011, 06:13:59 PM »

The Party of Lincoln
This is my really lame attempt at a Lincoln Lives list.

16. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)/Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME), Andrew Johnson (R-TN) 1861-1869
17. Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Benjamin Wade (R-OH) 1869-1877
18. James G Blaine (R-ME)/Benjam H Bristow (R-KT) 1877-1881
19. Thomas Bayard (D-DE)/Samuel J Tilden (D-NY), vacant 1881-1889
20. John Sherman (R-OH)/Robert T Lincoln (R-IL) 1889-1893
21. Gover Cleveland (D-NY)/William J Bryan (D-NE), Adlai E Stevenson (D-IL) 1893-1901
22. Robert T Lincoln (R-IL)/Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) 1901-1909
23. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/William H Taft (R-OH) 1909-1917

24. James Beauchamp "Champ" Clark (D-MO)/James Cox (D-OH) 1917-1921
25. James Cox/vacant, Alfred E Smith (D-NY) 1921-1929
26. Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/John Nance Garner (D-TX) 1929-1933

27. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (R-NY)/Arthr H Vandenberg (R-MI) 1933-1945
28. Arthur H Vandenberg (R-MI)/Robert Taft (R-OH) 1945-1951
29. Robert Taft (R-OH)/vacant, Douglas MacArthur (R-AR) 1951-1953
30. Douglas MacArthur (R-AR), vacant 1953-1957

31. Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX)/Joseph P Kennedy Jr. (D-MA) 1957-1962
32. Joseph P Kennedy (D-MA)/ vacant, Ronald W Reagan (D-CA) 1962-1973

33. Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR)/Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH) 1973-1974
34. Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH)/Charles Percy (R-IL) 1974-1981

35. Ronald W Reagan (D-CA)/John Tower (D-TX) 1981-1993
36. John Chaffee (R-RI)/George Bush (R-TX) 1993-1998
37. George Bush (R-TX)/Colin Powell (R-PA) 1998-2001
38. Colin Powell (R-PA)/Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI) 2001-2005

39. Bob Graham (D-FL)/Michael Huckabee (D-AR) 2005-Present

24. Died in office
26. First Catholic President
28. Died in office
29. Died in office
31. Assassinated by Cuban rebel Che Guevara while visiting the Cuba after the invasion, led by CIA Director Robert F Kennedy
33. Died of cancer
36. Died in office
37. First African-American Vice-President
38. First African-American President
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« Reply #737 on: March 04, 2011, 09:10:25 PM »
« Edited: March 04, 2011, 09:53:35 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

Lincoln lives.

1860-Abraham Lincoln/Hannibal Hamlin
1864-Abraham Lincoln/Hannibal Hamlin

1868-William Seward/Thad Stevens
1872-William Seward/Thad Stevens

1876-Samuel Tilden/Winfield Scott Hancock*
1879-Winfield Scott Hancock/vacant

1880-James Garfield/Chester Arthur
1884-James Garfield/Chester Arthur

1888-Grover Cleveland/Thomas Bayard
1892-Grover Cleveland/Thomas Bayard

1896-William J. Bryan/Theodore Roosevelt**
1899-Theodore Roosevelt/vacant.
1900-Theodore Roosevelt/Mark Hanna
1904-Theodore Roosevelt/Mark Hanna
1908-Theodore Roosevelt/Mark Hanna
1912-Theodore Roosevelt/Mark Hannna

1916-Leonard Wood/John Davis
1920-Leonard Wood/Herbert Hoover

1923-Herbert Hoover/vacant***
1924-Herbert Hoover/Calvin Coolidge
1928-Herbert Hoover/Calvin Coolidge

1932-John Nance Garner/Al Smith
1936-John Nance Garner/Al Smith

1940-Huey Long/Henry Wallace
1944-Huey Long/Henry Wallace

1948-Robert Taft/Thomas Dewey
1952-Robert Taft/Thomas Dewey****

1953-Thomas Dewey/vacant
1956-Adlai Stevenson/Lyndon Johnson*****
1959-Lyndon Johnson/vacant
1960-Lyndon Johnson/Stuart Symington
1963-Stuart Symington******

1964-Barry Goldwater/William Scranton
1968-Barry Goldwater/Ronald Reagan

1972-Stuart Symington/Nelson Rockefeller
1976-Nelson Rockefeller/Fred Harris*******

1980-Ronald Reagan/Howard Baker
1984-Ronald Reagan/Howard Baker
1988-Howard Baker/Bob Dole

1992-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards
1996-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards********
1999-Ann Richards/vacant

2000-Frank Keating/John Engler
2004-Howard Dean/Paul Wellstone
2008-Ron Paul/Gary Johnson
2012-Ron Paul/Gary Johnson

2016-Sarah Heath/Kat Swift
2020-Sarah Heath/Kat Swift


Red=Democrat
Blue=Republican
Brown-Radical Republican
Purple=Progressive
Teal-Peoples Union
Navy-Conservative
Orange-Constitutional Liberty
Green-Green Party

*Dies in office
**Assassinated by Anarchist.
***-Dies in office
****Assassinated by Puerto Rican nationalist.
***** Dies in office.
******Assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas.
*******Assassinated while campaigning for re-election.
*******-Assassinated by a lone Islamic radical.
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« Reply #738 on: March 05, 2011, 06:53:21 AM »

Reagan Dies in 1982

1982: George H.W. Bush/Robert Dole (R) (serving the remainder of President Reagan's term)
1984: George H.W. Bush/Robert Dole (R)

1988: Robert Dole/Paul Laxalt (R)
1992: Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I)
1996: Al Gore/Howard Dean (D)
2000: Al Gore/Howard Dean (D)

2004: John McCain/Jeb Bush (R)
2008: John McCain/Jeb Bush R)

2012: Russ Feingold/Barack Obama (D)
2016: Russ Feingold/Barack Obama (D)

2020: Gavin Newsom/Julian Castro (D)
2024: Gavin Newsom/Julian Castro (D)
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« Reply #739 on: March 05, 2011, 08:57:37 PM »
« Edited: March 05, 2011, 09:45:20 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

1789-George Washington/Thomas Jefferson
1792-George Washington/Thomas Jefferson
1796-Thomas Jefferson/George Clinton
1800-Thomas Jefferson/George Clinton

1804-John Adams/Alexander Hamilton
1808-John Adams/Alexander Hamilton
1812-Alexander Hamilton/Henry Clay

1816-James Madison/James Monroe*1
1819-James Monroe/vacant
1820-James Monroe/Andrew Jackson

1824-Henry Clay/Daniel Webster
1828-Andrew Jackson/John Calhoun
1832-Andrew Jackson/John Calhoun

1836-Henry Clay/Daniel Webster
1840-Henry Clay/Daniel Webster*2

1841-Daniel Webster/vacant
1844-James Polk/Zachary Taylor
1848-James Polk/Zachary Taylor

1852-Daniel Webster/James Buchanan
1856-Daniel Webster/James Buchanan

1860-William Seward/Abraham Lincoln*3
1863-Abraham Lincoln/none
1864-Abraham Lincoln/Hanibal Hamlin*4
1865-Hannibal Hamlin/vacant
1868-Thad Stevens/Charles Sumner
1872-Thad Stevens/Charles Sumner*5
1874-Charles Sumner/vacant

1876-Samuel Tilden/Winifield Scott Hancock
1880-Rutherford Hayes/Chester Arthur
1884-Rutherford Hayes/Chester Arthur

1892-Grover Cleveland/Winifield Scott Hancock
1896-Grover Clevelabd/Winifield Scott Hancock

1900-Theodore Roosevelt/William Bryan
1904-Grover Cleveland/Adlai Stevenson*6
1907-Adlai Stevenson/vacant

1908-Theodore Roosevelt/William Bryan
1912-Theodore Roosevelt/William Bryan

1916-Adlai Stevenson/Leonard Wood
1920-Robert LaFollette/William Bryan*7
1923-William Bryan/vacant

1924-Herbert Hoover/Calvin Coolidge
1928-Herbert Hoover/Calvin Coolidge
1929-Calvin Coolidge/vacant

1932-Franklin Roosevelt/John Nance Garner*8
1933-John Nance Garner/vacant
1936-John Nance Garner/Henry Wallace
1940-Henry Wallace/Huey Long
1944-Henry Wallace/Huey Long
1948-Earl Warren/Thomas Dewey
1952-Earl Warren/Thomas Dewey

1956-Robert Taft/Barry Goldwater
1960-Robert Taft/Barry Goldwater*9
1963-Barry Goldwater/vacant
1964-Barry Goldwater/William Miller
1968-Barry Goldwater/William Miller

1972-George McGovern/Eugene McCarthy
1976-George McGovern/Shirley Chisholm

1980-Phil Crane/Ronald Reagan
1984-Phil Crane/Ronald Reagan

1988-Shirley Chisholm/Paul Tsongas*10
1991-Paul Tsongas/vacant
1992-Mario Cuomo/Al Gore
1996-Mario Cuomo/Al Gore
1997-Al Gore/vacant*11

2000-Elizibeth Dole/Pete Wilson
2004-Al Gore/Hillary Rodham
2008-Pete Wilson/Mitt Romney
2012-Mitt Romney/Bobby Jindall
2016-Mitt Romney/Bobby Jindall

2017-Bobby Jindall/vacant*12
2020-Charlie Crist/Oprah Winfrey

*1 Dies in office
*2 Dies in office
*3 Assassinated by Confederate radical.
*4 Assassinated by a ex Confederate.
*5 Dies in office
*6 Dies in office
*7 Dies in office
*8 Assassinated by anarchist.
*9 Assassinated by Sniper in Dallas
*10 Assassinated by lone gunman.
*11 Dies in office
*12 Dies in Plane Crash
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« Reply #740 on: March 07, 2011, 07:20:55 PM »

Presidents of Cascadia
1990-Booth Gardner
1995-Booth Gardner

2000-Kurt Cobain
2005-Kurt Cobain

2010-Gary Locke

Prime Ministers of Cascadia
1990-Brock Adams
1993-Slade Gorton
1996-Kurt Cobain
2000-Gary Locke*
2004-Gary Locke

2007-Dino Rossi**
2009-Krist Novoselic
2010-Kurt Cobain

Purple-Progressive Labor Party
Green-Green Party
Blue-National Conservative
Orange-Libertarian

Cascadia
In 1990, a financial panic hits the US. Riots in Seatle cultivate with martial law. The States of Washington and Oregon secede, but British Columbia remains part of Canada. The US recognized the secession, and brought Puerto Rico, and the upper region of Michigan (the State of Marquete) into the Union to fill the void. Cascadia's capital is Seatle.

*-PM Locke engineered the Progressive-Green coalition.
**-Libertarian, Conservative coalition formed. The coalition collapsed over the financial recession, and the Libertarians narrowly formed a interim government.
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« Reply #741 on: March 07, 2011, 07:32:28 PM »

Abraham Lincoln 1861-65
Samuel P. Chase 1865-77
US Grant 1877-81
Chester Arthur 1881-85

Grover Cleveland 1885-93
Todd Lincoln 1893-1901
Teddy Roosevelt 1901-09
Charles Hughes 1909-13

Woodrow Wilson 1913-21
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« Reply #742 on: March 07, 2011, 10:19:58 PM »

In His Own Right-A POD within a POD

For those of you familiar with the site Changing The Times, there is an alternate history titled “In His Own Right” in which the point of divergence is that Senator Mark Hanna lives a couple months longer leading Theodore Roosevelt to govern more progressively and eliminate reactionary, e.g. conservative, influence in the Republican Party. In a divergence, Roosevelt survives the assassination attempt at the eve of the 1916 GOP Convention and sparing the USA of an Albert Beveridge Presidency (and attempts to establish a dictatorship and crackdown on the Socialists leading to the 1920 revolt and establishment of a parliamentary system with a Prime Minister)

26. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY): 1901-1913
27. James “Champ” Clark (D-MO): 1913-1917
28. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY): 1917-1920
29. Warren Harding (R-OH): 1920-1921

30. Hiram Johnson (P-JE): 1921-1929
31. Franklin D. Roosevelt (P-NY): 1929-1931
32. George Norris (P-NE): 1931-1933

33. Upton Sinclair (S-CA): 1933-1941
34. Henry Wallace (S-IA): 1941-1946
35. Claude Pepper (S-FL): 1946-1950
36. Vito Marcantonio (S-NY): 1950-1953

37. Dwight Eisenhower (P-PA): 1953-1961
38. William Knowland (C-JE): 1961-1965
39. Hubert Humphrey (P-MN): 1965-1973
40. Ralph Yarborough (S-TX): 1973-1977
41. Frank Zeidler (S-WI): 1977-1981

42. Edmund G. “Jerry” Brown (P-JE): 1981-1989
43. Lamar Alexander (C-TN): 1989-1997
44. Paul Wellstone (S-MN): 1997-2003
45. Roberta Achtenberg (S-JE): 2003-2009

46. Pedro Rosello (P-PR): 2009-Present

Notes:

P=Progressive
S=Socialist
C=Conservative

28. Died in office

29. Succeeded William Howard Taft as Chairman of the Constitutional Party. As part of the deal to merge the Constitutional and Republican Parties, Harding accepted the Vice Presidential nomination. In 1920, former members of the Constitutional Party (conservative wing) dominated the state delegations to the Republican National Convention and nominated President Harding. Senator Johnson led a walkout of his supporters and announced his candidacy for President of the newly formed Progressive Party. Harding, seen as incompetent, was revealed as an alcoholic and adulterer. A former mistress revealed that she was the mother of Harding’s out-of-wedlock son. Johnson won every state except the South (won by the William Gibbs McAdoo); Ohio (only state won by Harding); and North Dakota, Indiana, Oklahoma, Wyoming and Cuba (won by Socialist nominee Eugene Debs)

31. A former Democrat, FDR served as Secretary of the Navy during Johnson’s first term and was the first Progressive elected Governor of New York in 1924 (Al Smith was the Democratic nominee for President that year). After serving two terms, Roosevelt was nominated for President in 1928 and picked Senator George Norris as his running mate. Seven months into his Presidency, the stock market crashed. While FDR convinced Congress to pass landmark bank reform, he insisted on keeping the budget balanced and opposed any kind of make work programs. The Socialists swept the 1930 midterm elections and won majorities in the House and Senate for the first time in history. With unemployment breaking 20 percent in 1931 and his popularity in decline, Roosevelt suffered a stroke and died on April 20, 1931.

33. Elected Governor of Jefferson (OTL Northern California) in 1930, Sinclair campaigned for President on the promise of a New Deal for the American people (his biggest and most shocking endorsement came from FDR’s widow Eleanor who switched her voter registration to Socialist and was elected to the US Senate from New York over incumbent Progressive Robert F. Wagner). President Sinclair’s legacy includes the Tennessee Valley Authority, Federally-owned public utility companies, the modern highway network, the Civil Rights Act of 1935 and rural electrification.

34. President Wallace would devote much of his administration in leading the country in war against Japan resulting from that country’s kamikaze attack on the Presidio in San Francisco on December 7, 1941. Forming an alliance with China, Union of Socialist Republics of Russia (USSR with a figurehead Tsar), United Kingdom, France and the Netherlands (whose territories and dominions in the Pacific and Southeast Asia were also attacked by Japan), the Allied Powers achieved victory on July 2, 1945 when atomic weapons fell on Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Yokohama. Emperor Hirohito announced Japan’s surrender and sued for peace. The Treaty of Melbourne that officially ended the Pacific War awarded the Kurile Islands to the USSR, Manchuria to China, and required the Japanese to return land captured during the war back to its original owners. Japan had to cut its military in half and ban its military from serving in the government. Back at home, the conversion of most factories to peacetime use resulted in lost jobs and another recession. The pressures of governing caused great stress to President Wallace and he died of cardiac arrest on February 14, 1946.

35. US Senator from Florida (1936-1945) before his election as Vice President in 1944. With the support of labor unions, and black and Jewish voters, Pepper helped deliver Florida to the Socialist ticket in 1940 and 1944. Elected President in his own right in 1948, Pepper’s Presidency was cut down in its prime when he was assassinated by Puerto Rican pro-independence terrorists in 1950.

36. First Roman Catholic and first Italian-American President. Marcantonio was elected to Congress in 1932 and served 4 terms before his election as Governor of New York in 1940.  His neutral stances in the 1950 Korean Civil War and ethnic cleansing of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire were criticized back home and resulted in the resignation of George Patton as Secretary of War. Americans tired of 20 years of Socialist rule elected General Eisenhower, hero of the Pacific War, to the White House with Senator Wayne Morse of Oregon as his running mate. The Conservative Party, founded by pro-business Southerners and what was left of the Republicans, nominated Senator Robert Taft of Ohio, and won New Hampshire, Arizona and Ohio.

41. Former Mayor of Milwaukee, US Senator from Wisconsin (1963-1977) before elected President. Defeated for reelection due to the recession of 1979-1980

42. Brown’s Presidency was defined by income tax cuts, environmental legislation, realpolitik in foreign policy and a centrist approach to governing. Many furious left wing members of the Progressives gravitated towards the Socialists. In Minnesota, Paul Wellstone convinced the Farmer-Labor Party to join the Socialists and end its 40 year old merger with the Progressives when that party nominated former Arizona Governor Bruce Babbitt for President. This implosion in the Progressive ranks may have aided in the election of Lamar Alexander to the White House.

44. First Jewish President. In 2003, President Wellstone announced that he had leukemia and became the first President to resign from office.

45. First openly gay President and was previously Lieutenant Governor of Jefferson (1987-1991) and Mayor of San Francisco (1991-1997) before her election as Vice President in 1996.

46. First Hispanic President
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« Reply #743 on: March 08, 2011, 08:49:17 PM »

Reagan Shot Dead, Clinton dies in plane crash!

Ronald Reagan/George H.W Bush (1981-1983)*
George H.W Bush/Tip O'Niell (1983-1985)**
Gary Hart/Shirley Chisolm (1985-1993)***
Jerry Brown/Paul Tsongas (1993-1997)
Richard Lugar/Pat Buchanan (1997-2001)
Dick Gephardt/Bill Bradley (2001-2009)
Fred Thompson/Tom Tancredo (2009-present)

List of Defeated Tickets:

1984 - Harold Stassen/Bob Dole
1992 - Pat Buchanan/Jack Kemp
1996 - Jerry Brown/Paul Tsongas
2000 - Richard Lugar/Pat Buchanan
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« Reply #744 on: March 08, 2011, 09:04:40 PM »

Reagan Shot Dead, Clinton dies in plane crash!

Ronald Reagan/George H.W Bush (1981-1983)*
George H.W Bush/Tip O'Niell (1983-1985)**
Gary Hart/Shirley Chisolm (1985-1993)***
Jerry Brown/Paul Tsongas (1993-1997)
Richard Lugar/Pat Buchanan (1997-2001)
Dick Gephardt/Bill Bradley (2001-2009)
Fred Thompson/Tom Tancredo (2009-present)

List of Defeated Tickets:

1984 - Harold Stassen/Bob Dole
1992 - Pat Buchanan/Jack Kemp
1996 - Jerry Brown/Paul Tsongas
2000 - Richard Lugar/Pat Buchanan

In the event of an assassination, the Speaker of the House doesn't become Vice-President. The President, at that point in time could choose his own Vice-President. Did Bush choose Tip in order to unify Congress? Also, how would Harold Stassen get the nomination in 1984, forty years since he'd held elected office?
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« Reply #745 on: March 09, 2011, 02:06:31 PM »

Reagan Shot Dead, Clinton dies in plane crash!

Ronald Reagan/George H.W Bush (1981-1983)*
George H.W Bush/Tip O'Niell (1983-1985)**
Gary Hart/Shirley Chisolm (1985-1993)***
Jerry Brown/Paul Tsongas (1993-1997)
Richard Lugar/Pat Buchanan (1997-2001)
Dick Gephardt/Bill Bradley (2001-2009)
Fred Thompson/Tom Tancredo (2009-present)

List of Defeated Tickets:

1984 - Harold Stassen/Bob Dole
1992 - Pat Buchanan/Jack Kemp
1996 - Jerry Brown/Paul Tsongas
2000 - Richard Lugar/Pat Buchanan

In the event of an assassination, the Speaker of the House doesn't become Vice-President. The President, at that point in time could choose his own Vice-President. Did Bush choose Tip in order to unify Congress? Also, how would Harold Stassen get the nomination in 1984, forty years since he'd held elected office?

I went by Speaker of the House becoming VP, if HW chose the VP, it would have been Bob Dole. Harold Stassen got the nomination because HW didn't run for President, so Stassen was a clear front runner from the start, not many other people ran.
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« Reply #746 on: March 14, 2011, 12:16:13 AM »
« Edited: March 14, 2011, 12:18:21 AM by GLPman »

The Crisis of the Presidency

37. Richard Nixon (R-CA): 1969-1970*
38. Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 1970-1972**

39. Carl Albert (D-OK): 1972-1973***
40. George McGovern (D-SD): 1973-1977

41. Mark Hatfield (R-OR): 1977-1985
42. Walter Mondale (D-MN): 1985-1989
43. Richard Cheney (R-WY): 1989-1997
44. Birch "Evan" Bayh (D-IN): 1997-2005
45. Clarence Thomas (R-GA): 2005- present****

*Nixon assassinated by the leader of an anti-West militant group in 1970
**Agnew assumed the presidency following Nixon's death, but later resigned in 1972 over criminal charges of bribery
***Speaker of the House Carl Albert became President in mid-1972 and quickly stated his intention to not run for re-election.
**** First African-American and former Supreme Court Justice to become President
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« Reply #747 on: March 14, 2011, 03:18:32 PM »

Reagan Shot Dead, Clinton dies in plane crash!

Ronald Reagan/George H.W Bush (1981-1983)*
George H.W Bush/Tip O'Niell (1983-1985)**
Gary Hart/Shirley Chisolm (1985-1993)***
Jerry Brown/Paul Tsongas (1993-1997)
Richard Lugar/Pat Buchanan (1997-2001)
Dick Gephardt/Bill Bradley (2001-2009)
Fred Thompson/Tom Tancredo (2009-present)

List of Defeated Tickets:

1984 - Harold Stassen/Bob Dole
1992 - Pat Buchanan/Jack Kemp
1996 - Jerry Brown/Paul Tsongas
2000 - Richard Lugar/Pat Buchanan

In the event of an assassination, the Speaker of the House doesn't become Vice-President. The President, at that point in time could choose his own Vice-President. Did Bush choose Tip in order to unify Congress? Also, how would Harold Stassen get the nomination in 1984, forty years since he'd held elected office?

I went by Speaker of the House becoming VP, if HW chose the VP, it would have been Bob Dole. Harold Stassen got the nomination because HW didn't run for President, so Stassen was a clear front runner from the start, not many other people ran.

Why would HW choose Bob Dole, a man who challenged him for the Presidency four years removed from that time period?

A more likely pick would be Howard Baker or John Sununu (provided the latter is considered American-born.)
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« Reply #748 on: March 14, 2011, 04:17:44 PM »

1964-Nelson Rockefeller/Spiro Agnew
1968-Nelson Rockefeller/Spiro Agnew

1972-Robert Kennedy/Fred Harris
1976-Robert Kennedy/Fred Harris

1980-George HW Bush/John Anderson
1984-George HW Bush/Bob Dole

1988-Bob Dole/Howard Baker
1992-Al Gore/Mario Cuomo
1996-Al Gore/Bob Graham

2000-Frank Keating/John Engler
2004-Howard Dean/Paul Wellstone
2008-John Engler/George W Bush

1964-Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey
1968-Hubert Humphrey/Robert Kennedy
1972-Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford
1976-Ronald Reagan/Howard Baker

1980-James Carter/Jerry Brown
1984-Sargent Shriver/George McGovern
1988-Bill Clinton/Al Gore

1992-Bob Dole/Howard Baker
1996-Howard Baker/George Voinovich

2000-Bill Clinton/Bill Bradley
2004-Frank Keating/John Engler
2008-Howard Dean/Paul Wellstone
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« Reply #749 on: March 14, 2011, 04:42:41 PM »

1981-1987: Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX)
1987-1997: George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Howard Baker (R-TN)

1997-2005: Bill Clinton (D-AR)/John Kerry (D-MA)
2005-present: John McCain (R-AZ)/George W. Bush (R-TX)

1980: Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN)
1984: Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferarro (D-NY)
1988: Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1992: Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Jerry Brown (D-NC)

1996: Lamar Alexandar (R-TN)/John Engler (R-MI)
2000: John Engler (R-MI)/Richard Cheney (R-WY)

2004: John Kerry (D-MA)/John Edwards (D-NC)
2008: John Edwards (D-NC)/Barack Obama (D-IL)


Reagan - In 1987, President Reagan resigned after revealing that he had been diagnosed with terminal stomach cancer. He died of that same cancer in 1991, at the age of 80.
Bush - In 1992, amidst a recession, President Bush won a third term by a close margin over Arkansas Governor and 1988 VP nominee Bill Clinton, who was nominated by the Democrats again in 1996.
McCain - In 2008, the 72 year old President was easily reelected after it was revealed that Democratic nominee John Edwards had fathered a lovechild. Edwards confessed to the allegations, but refused to resign from the ticket, citing Grover Cleveland's 1884 victory despite admitting that he had fathered a lovechild.
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