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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2009, 05:36:07 PM »

Dwight Eisenhower [R-PA] (1953-1955)
William F. Knowland [R-CA] (1955-1957)
Albert Gore, Sr. [D-TN] (1957-1965)
Barry Goldwater [R-AZ] (1965-1973)
Robert G. Baker [D-SC] (1973-1977)
Alan Greenspan [R-NY] (1977-1985)
John Seymour [R-CA] (1985-1989)
James Blanchard [D-MI] (1989-1995)
Chris Matthews [D-PA] (1995-1997)
Lynn “Longhorn Nolan” Ryan [R-TX] (1997-2005)
John Spencer [D-NJ] (2005-2006)
Clarence W. Nelson [D-FL] (2006-date)

This is for a TL I've been banding around in my head.  What do y'all think?

Ugh. Kill me, please.
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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2009, 06:50:06 PM »

This is if Huey Long was not assassinated and fielded a candidate (not him) in 1936:

1933-1937: Franklin Roosevelt/John Nance Garner
1937-1941: Alf Landon/William Knox
1941-1949: Huey Long/Joe Kennedy
1949-1953: Robert Taft/Earl Warren
1953-1961: Estes Kafuavner/Hubert Humphrey
1961-1965: Hubert Humphrey/Scoop Jackson
1965-1973: Nelson Rockefeller/Henry Cabot Lodge
1973-1981: Ronald Reagan/George Wallace
1981-1985: John Connally/Terry Sanford
1985-1993: John Anderson/George Bush
1993-2001: Tom Harkin/Bill Clinton
2001-2005: William Weld/Arlen Specter
2005-Present: John Edwards/Ted Strickland
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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2009, 12:15:01 AM »

(D) Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)
(R) Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
(R) George Bush (1989-1993)
(D) Bill Clinton (1993-1997)
(R) Clint Eastwood (1997-2005)
(R) John McCain (2005-2009)
(D) Barack Obama (2009-)

Clint Eastwood was Mayor of Carmel, California from 1986 to 1988. Had he run for Governor of California in 1990, he would have won and would have been set up perfectly to run, at the age of 66, for President in 1996.
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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2009, 02:09:51 AM »

Hubert Humphrey (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
Walter Mondale (1985-1993)
Robert Dole (1993-2001)
Albert Gore (2001-2009)
John McCain (2009-  )
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« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2009, 02:43:01 AM »

I started working on a time line awhile ago that following these Presidents but I ended up abandoning it.

1974 - 1977 President Gerald Ford/Vice President Nelson Rockefeller
1977 - 1981 President Jimmy Carter/Vice President Walter Mondale
1981 - 1981 President Ronald Reagan*/Vice President Gerald Ford
1981 - 1985 President Gerald Ford/Vice President Howard Baker
1985 - 1993 President Howard Baker/Vice President George Bush

1993 - 2001 President Al Gore/Vice President Dick Gephardt
2001 - 2005 President Dick Gephardt/Vice President Bill Bradley

2005 - ? ? ?  President John McCain/Vice President Tom Ridge

*Assassinated

Fun thing about the Dream Ticket / Reagan assassinated scenario that people often forget is that Ford, having never been elected President in his own right, would still be eligible to run for re-election in 1984.
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« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2009, 10:18:53 PM »

43. John McCain 2001-2009
44. George W. Bush 2009-2013
45. Harold Ford 2013-2021
46. Mark Warner 2021-2029

I started this, but decided not to continue.
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« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2009, 11:23:51 PM »

35th: John F. Kennedy (1961-1969)
36th: Lyndon B. Johnson (1969-1972, dies of heart attack)
37th: Henry "Scoop" Jackson (1972-1977)
38th: Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
39th: Robert F. Kennedy (1985-1993)
40th: Lamar Alexander (1993-1997)
41st: Dianne Feinstein (1997-2005)
42nd: John McCain (2005-2009)
43rd: Bill Clinton (2009-present)
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« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2009, 09:34:28 PM »
« Edited: January 22, 2009, 09:36:09 PM by Wakie »

This is "what if Nixon beat Kennedy in 1960". 

35. President Richard Nixon - 1961 - 1963
*Nixon assassinated by a crazy Lee Harvey Oswald
36. President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr - 1963 - 1969
37. President John Kennedy - 1969 - 1977
38. President Ronald Reagan - 1977 - 1985
39. President Robert Kennedy - 1985 - 1993
40. President Lloyd Bentsen - 1993 - 2001
41. President John McCain - 2001 - 2005
42. President Bill Clinton - 2005 - 2013
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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2009, 11:00:57 AM »

I started working on a time line awhile ago that following these Presidents but I ended up abandoning it.

1974 - 1977 President Gerald Ford/Vice President Nelson Rockefeller
1977 - 1981 President Jimmy Carter/Vice President Walter Mondale
1981 - 1981 President Ronald Reagan*/Vice President Gerald Ford
1981 - 1985 President Gerald Ford/Vice President Howard Baker
1985 - 1993 President Howard Baker/Vice President George Bush

1993 - 2001 President Al Gore/Vice President Dick Gephardt
2001 - 2005 President Dick Gephardt/Vice President Bill Bradley

2005 - ? ? ?  President John McCain/Vice President Tom Ridge

*Assassinated

Fun thing about the Dream Ticket / Reagan assassinated scenario that people often forget is that Ford, having never been elected President in his own right, would still be eligible to run for re-election in 1984.

In my timeline he declined to run.
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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2009, 02:11:41 PM »

This is "what if Nixon beat Kennedy in 1960". 

35. President Richard Nixon - 1961 - 1963
*Nixon assassinated by a crazy Lee Harvey Oswald
36. President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr - 1963 - 1969
37. President John Kennedy - 1969 - 1977
38. President Ronald Reagan - 1977 - 1985
39. President Robert Kennedy - 1985 - 1993
40. President Lloyd Bentsen - 1993 - 2001
41. President John McCain - 2001 - 2005
42. President Bill Clinton - 2005 - 2013

Who is Clinton's Vice President?
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« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2009, 07:16:25 PM »

This is "what if Nixon beat Kennedy in 1960". 

35. President Richard Nixon - 1961 - 1963
*Nixon assassinated by a crazy Lee Harvey Oswald
36. President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr - 1963 - 1969
37. President John Kennedy - 1969 - 1977
38. President Ronald Reagan - 1977 - 1985
39. President Robert Kennedy - 1985 - 1993
40. President Lloyd Bentsen - 1993 - 2001
41. President John McCain - 2001 - 2005
42. President Bill Clinton - 2005 - 2013

Who is Clinton's Vice President?

The VP pairings I envisioned are

*Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr
*Henry Cabot Lodge Jr/Everett Dirksen
*John Kennedy/John Connally
*Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker
*Robert Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen
*Lloyd Bentsen/Bill Bradley
*John McCain/Fred Thompson
*Bill Clinton/Max Cleland
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« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2009, 12:40:30 AM »

In 1933, the 20th amendment is ratified which stipulates that the President shall be elected every 2 years.

1933-1945 Roosevelt
1945-1947 Truman
1947-1953 Dewey
1953-1959 Eisenhower
1959- Nov 1963 Kennedy
Nov 1963- 1969 Johnson
1969-1974 Nixon
1974-1975 Ford
1975-1981 McGovern
1981-1989 Reagan
1989-1993 Bush
1993-1995 Bill Clinton
1995-1999 Gingrich
1999-2001 Gore
2001-2007 Bush
2007-present Hillary Clinton
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« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2009, 12:52:15 AM »

Point of Divergence: Senator George McGovern of South Dakota defeats President Richard Nixon.

37th: Richard M. Nixon (Republican - California)Sad 1969-1973
38th: George S. McGovern (Democratic - South Dakota)Sad 1973-1977
39th: Ronald Reagan (Republican - California)Sad 1977-1981
40th: Henry M. Jackson (Democratic - Washington)Sad 1981-1983
41st: Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic - Texas)Sad 1983-1989
42nd: Jack Kemp (Republican - New York)Sad 1989-1997
43rd: William J. Clinton (Democratic - Arkansas)Sad 1997-2005
44th: Evan Bayh (Democratic - Indiana)Sad 2005-2009
45th: George F. Allen (Republican - Virginia)Sad 2009-Present Day
 
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« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2009, 07:57:44 PM »

Point of Divergence: Senator George McGovern of South Dakota defeats President Richard Nixon.

37th: Richard M. Nixon (Republican - California)Sad 1969-1973
38th: George S. McGovern (Democratic - South Dakota)Sad 1973-1977
39th: Ronald Reagan (Republican - California)Sad 1977-1981
40th: Henry M. Jackson (Democratic - Washington)Sad 1981-1983
41st: Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic - Texas)Sad 1983-1989
42nd: Jack Kemp (Republican - New York)Sad 1989-1997
43rd: William J. Clinton (Democratic - Arkansas)Sad 1997-2005
44th: Evan Bayh (Democratic - Indiana)Sad 2005-2009
45th: George F. Allen (Republican - Virginia)Sad 2009-Present Day
 

not bad. I like the Kemp part.
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« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2009, 11:42:10 AM »
« Edited: January 29, 2009, 11:44:35 AM by Paul Pierce »

1953-57 Eisenhower. CJ Vinson lives
1957-61 Warren
61-69 JFK/LBJ
69-73 Albert Gore Sr.
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« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2009, 12:52:11 PM »

1953-57 Eisenhower. CJ Vinson lives
1957-61 Warren
61-69 JFK/LBJ
69-73 Albert Gore Sr.


1973-1979 Richard Nixon (1)
1979-1981 Charles Percy (2)
1981-1989 Robert F. Kennedy
1989-1993 Bill Clinton (3)
1993-2001 John Warner
2001-2009 John Kerry (4)
2009-present Rudy Giuliani

(1) died from complications of phlebitis and stress caused by backlash in admitting Shah of Iran into the US for medical reasons and subsequent hostage crisis at the US Embassy in Tehran.

(2) VP under Nixon. Selected Bob Dole as Vice President. Criticized for his pro-Arab foreign policies and Marine helicopter crash in the Iranian desert.

(3) Ran for President when Vice President Jimmy Carter decided not to run. Clinton picked John Kerry as his running mate. Extramarital scandals and use of White House bedrooms by political donors led to his re-election defeat.

(4) Defeated Vice President John McCain in 2000. Launched War on Terrorism after 9/11/01. Defeated Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and captured Osama bin Laden who was tried in the US personally by Attorney General Bill Weld. Bin Laden was executed in 2003. Secretary of Defense Sam Nunn advised Kerry against starting war with Iraq but approved gun running operations by CIA that resulted in Saddam's overthrow in 2004 and declaration of Kurdish Republic. Recession of late 2008 hurt campaign of Democratic nominee and former Secretary of State Bill Richardson.
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« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2009, 06:10:55 PM »

1953-57 Eisenhower. CJ Vinson lives
1957-61 Warren
61-69 JFK/LBJ
69-73 Albert Gore Sr.


1973-1979 Richard Nixon (1)
1979-1981 Charles Percy (2)
1981-1989 Robert F. Kennedy
1989-1993 Bill Clinton (3)
1993-2001 John Warner
2001-2009 John Kerry (4)
2009-present Rudy Giuliani

(1) died from complications of phlebitis and stress caused by backlash in admitting Shah of Iran into the US for medical reasons and subsequent hostage crisis at the US Embassy in Tehran.

(2) VP under Nixon. Selected Bob Dole as Vice President. Criticized for his pro-Arab foreign policies and Marine helicopter crash in the Iranian desert.

(3) Ran for President when Vice President Jimmy Carter decided not to run. Clinton picked John Kerry as his running mate. Extramarital scandals and use of White House bedrooms by political donors led to his re-election defeat.

(4) Defeated Vice President John McCain in 2000. Launched War on Terrorism after 9/11/01. Defeated Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and captured Osama bin Laden who was tried in the US personally by Attorney General Bill Weld. Bin Laden was executed in 2003. Secretary of Defense Sam Nunn advised Kerry against starting war with Iraq but approved gun running operations by CIA that resulted in Saddam's overthrow in 2004 and declaration of Kurdish Republic. Recession of late 2008 hurt campaign of Democratic nominee and former Secretary of State Bill Richardson.


Who was Kerry's VP?
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« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2009, 06:36:25 PM »

Kerry's Vice President was Albert Gore Jr. Gore was elected US Senator from Tennessee in 1984 and serve there until he resigned in 2001 to assume the Vice Presidency.

Gore had previously run for President in 1988 and 2000. In his third try for the White House in 2008, he was the frontrunner until the Iowa caucuses that Bill Richardson won by about 250 votes over Gore.

From there, Gore's campaign went downhill. Richardson would win the New Hampshire primary. But on Super Tuesday, Gore was only able to win the states of Florida, Kentucky and Tennessee. Richardson won the remaining states and Gore dropped out at the end of March. Richardson selected Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend of Maryland as his running mate. She became the first woman nominated for Vice President on a major ticket.

Rudy Giuliani selected Senator Condoleeza Rice of California (former Secretary of State in the John Warner administration) as his running mate. His choice helped Giuliani win over 30% of the African-American vote and split the female vote with Richardson.

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« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2009, 06:44:33 PM »

Kerry's Vice President was Albert Gore Jr. Gore was elected US Senator from Tennessee in 1984 and serve there until he resigned in 2001 to assume the Vice Presidency.

Gore had previously run for President in 1988 and 2000. In his third try for the White House in 2008, he was the frontrunner until the Iowa caucuses that Bill Richardson won by about 250 votes over Gore.

From there, Gore's campaign went downhill. Richardson would win the New Hampshire primary. But on Super Tuesday, Gore was only able to win the states of Florida, Kentucky and Tennessee. Richardson won the remaining states and Gore dropped out at the end of March. Richardson selected Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend of Maryland as his running mate. She became the first woman nominated for Vice President on a major ticket.

Rudy Giuliani selected Senator Condoleeza Rice of California (former Secretary of State in the John Warner administration) as his running mate. His choice helped Giuliani win over 30% of the African-American vote and split the female vote with Richardson.



Interesting, and richly detailed, backstory... thanks.

If you'll indulge me... I'm assuming Rudy was Mayor of NYC during 9/11, and his path in this TL was similar to his path IRL post-9/11. But, would he still be seen as having the "9/11 tourettes", since he didn't have a President Bush or War on Terror to prop up for the party?
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« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2009, 06:47:49 AM »
« Edited: January 30, 2009, 06:51:57 AM by Reaganfan »

31st (R) Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
32nd (D) Franklin Roosevelt (1933-1945)
33rd (D) Harry Truman (1945-1949)
34th (R) Thomas Dewey (1949-1953)
35th (D) Harry Truman (1953-1969)
36th (R) George Romney (1969-1977)
37th (D) John Kennedy (1977-1981)
38th (R) George Bush (1981-1989)
39th (R) Howard Baker (1989-1997)
40th (D) Evan Bayh (1997-2005)
41st (R) Mitt Romney (2005-2009)
42nd (D) Joe Biden (2009-)

Truman loses to Dewey in 1948, but Dewey's unpopularity in 1952 makes him vulnurable in a re-match with Truman. Truman wins, and with the constitution amended during his Presidency, he is able to run in 1952, 1956, 1960 and 1964...serving through the majority of the 50s and 60s.
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« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2009, 09:10:27 AM »

Kerry's Vice President was Albert Gore Jr. Gore was elected US Senator from Tennessee in 1984 and serve there until he resigned in 2001 to assume the Vice Presidency.

Gore had previously run for President in 1988 and 2000. In his third try for the White House in 2008, he was the frontrunner until the Iowa caucuses that Bill Richardson won by about 250 votes over Gore.

From there, Gore's campaign went downhill. Richardson would win the New Hampshire primary. But on Super Tuesday, Gore was only able to win the states of Florida, Kentucky and Tennessee. Richardson won the remaining states and Gore dropped out at the end of March. Richardson selected Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend of Maryland as his running mate. She became the first woman nominated for Vice President on a major ticket.

Rudy Giuliani selected Senator Condoleeza Rice of California (former Secretary of State in the John Warner administration) as his running mate. His choice helped Giuliani win over 30% of the African-American vote and split the female vote with Richardson.



Interesting, and richly detailed, backstory... thanks.

If you'll indulge me... I'm assuming Rudy was Mayor of NYC during 9/11, and his path in this TL was similar to his path IRL post-9/11. But, would he still be seen as having the "9/11 tourettes", since he didn't have a President Bush or War on Terror to prop up for the party?

Rudy was Mayor of NYC during 9/11. After completing his term as mayor, he capitalized on his popularity by running for Governor of New York in 2002 (George Pataki was "persuaded" to retire). He was able to push through a large income tax cut and a stimulus package to rebuild much of NYC's economy that was affected by 9/11. After the state Supreme Court declared New York's death penalty law unconstitutional, Giuliani got a stronger death penalty law passed that would withstand constitutional scrutiny.

Giuliani was so popular going into 2006 that he was reelected in a landslide with 68% of the vote, a record for a New York Gubernatorial race. His coattails also helped Republicans win the two other statewide offices. Comptroller Alan Hevesi was defeated for re-election by State Senator Serphin Maltese when it was discovered that Hevesi used taxpayer money for a chauffeur to drive his wife to the doctor and to go shopping. Also, Elliot Spitzer's involvement with prostitutes was revealed by the US Attorney's office and it cost him his job as Attorney General. Spitzer resigned in disgrace and former state Assembly Minority Leader John Faso was elected Attorney General.

With Giuliani's ascension to the Presidency, he was succeeded as Governor by Susan Molinari.
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« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2009, 04:48:21 PM »

Kerry's Vice President was Albert Gore Jr. Gore was elected US Senator from Tennessee in 1984 and serve there until he resigned in 2001 to assume the Vice Presidency.

Gore had previously run for President in 1988 and 2000. In his third try for the White House in 2008, he was the frontrunner until the Iowa caucuses that Bill Richardson won by about 250 votes over Gore.

From there, Gore's campaign went downhill. Richardson would win the New Hampshire primary. But on Super Tuesday, Gore was only able to win the states of Florida, Kentucky and Tennessee. Richardson won the remaining states and Gore dropped out at the end of March. Richardson selected Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend of Maryland as his running mate. She became the first woman nominated for Vice President on a major ticket.

Rudy Giuliani selected Senator Condoleeza Rice of California (former Secretary of State in the John Warner administration) as his running mate. His choice helped Giuliani win over 30% of the African-American vote and split the female vote with Richardson.



Interesting, and richly detailed, backstory... thanks.

If you'll indulge me... I'm assuming Rudy was Mayor of NYC during 9/11, and his path in this TL was similar to his path IRL post-9/11. But, would he still be seen as having the "9/11 tourettes", since he didn't have a President Bush or War on Terror to prop up for the party?

Rudy was Mayor of NYC during 9/11. After completing his term as mayor, he capitalized on his popularity by running for Governor of New York in 2002 (George Pataki was "persuaded" to retire). He was able to push through a large income tax cut and a stimulus package to rebuild much of NYC's economy that was affected by 9/11. After the state Supreme Court declared New York's death penalty law unconstitutional, Giuliani got a stronger death penalty law passed that would withstand constitutional scrutiny.

Giuliani was so popular going into 2006 that he was reelected in a landslide with 68% of the vote, a record for a New York Gubernatorial race. His coattails also helped Republicans win the two other statewide offices. Comptroller Alan Hevesi was defeated for re-election by State Senator Serphin Maltese when it was discovered that Hevesi used taxpayer money for a chauffeur to drive his wife to the doctor and to go shopping. Also, Elliot Spitzer's involvement with prostitutes was revealed by the US Attorney's office and it cost him his job as Attorney General. Spitzer resigned in disgrace and former state Assembly Minority Leader John Faso was elected Attorney General.

With Giuliani's ascension to the Presidency, he was succeeded as Governor by Susan Molinari.


So he was the obvious establishment candidate... his "Big State Plan" didn't fall to pieces before Florida... who else ran in the primary?

Sorry to be asking all of these question, but I'm really enjoying this timeline.
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« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2009, 10:22:02 PM »

Kerry's Vice President was Albert Gore Jr. Gore was elected US Senator from Tennessee in 1984 and serve there until he resigned in 2001 to assume the Vice Presidency.

Gore had previously run for President in 1988 and 2000. In his third try for the White House in 2008, he was the frontrunner until the Iowa caucuses that Bill Richardson won by about 250 votes over Gore.

From there, Gore's campaign went downhill. Richardson would win the New Hampshire primary. But on Super Tuesday, Gore was only able to win the states of Florida, Kentucky and Tennessee. Richardson won the remaining states and Gore dropped out at the end of March. Richardson selected Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend of Maryland as his running mate. She became the first woman nominated for Vice President on a major ticket.

Rudy Giuliani selected Senator Condoleeza Rice of California (former Secretary of State in the John Warner administration) as his running mate. His choice helped Giuliani win over 30% of the African-American vote and split the female vote with Richardson.



Interesting, and richly detailed, backstory... thanks.

If you'll indulge me... I'm assuming Rudy was Mayor of NYC during 9/11, and his path in this TL was similar to his path IRL post-9/11. But, would he still be seen as having the "9/11 tourettes", since he didn't have a President Bush or War on Terror to prop up for the party?

Rudy was Mayor of NYC during 9/11. After completing his term as mayor, he capitalized on his popularity by running for Governor of New York in 2002 (George Pataki was "persuaded" to retire). He was able to push through a large income tax cut and a stimulus package to rebuild much of NYC's economy that was affected by 9/11. After the state Supreme Court declared New York's death penalty law unconstitutional, Giuliani got a stronger death penalty law passed that would withstand constitutional scrutiny.

Giuliani was so popular going into 2006 that he was reelected in a landslide with 68% of the vote, a record for a New York Gubernatorial race. His coattails also helped Republicans win the two other statewide offices. Comptroller Alan Hevesi was defeated for re-election by State Senator Serphin Maltese when it was discovered that Hevesi used taxpayer money for a chauffeur to drive his wife to the doctor and to go shopping. Also, Elliot Spitzer's involvement with prostitutes was revealed by the US Attorney's office and it cost him his job as Attorney General. Spitzer resigned in disgrace and former state Assembly Minority Leader John Faso was elected Attorney General.

With Giuliani's ascension to the Presidency, he was succeeded as Governor by Susan Molinari.


So he was the obvious establishment candidate... his "Big State Plan" didn't fall to pieces before Florida... who else ran in the primary?

Sorry to be asking all of these question, but I'm really enjoying this timeline.

Please bear in mind that this Republican party remained a moderately conservative party and Ronald Reagan never became President. Also, the South is still Democrat but conservative.

Rudy Giuliani topped a GOP primary field that included Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Bob Ehrlich (he was reelected Governor of Maryland ITTL 2006), Ron Paul (very libertarian), and Frank Keating (Governor of Oklahoma from 1995-2003, same as OTL, and elected to US Senate when David Boren retired).

In the Iowa primary, Giuliani finished in first place with 30% of the vote. Keating finished in second with 29% of the vote. Romney, favored to easily win the neighboring state of New Hampshire, did win the state but by only 5 percent ahead of Giuliani. Keating finished third. The tiny town of Dixville Notch was the first to vote. After all 34 residents voted at midnight, the votes were counted and Ron Paul finished first by 3 votes ahead of Giuliani. Romney did not get a single vote in Dixville Notch.

Keating finally won a primary with his victory in South Carolina, a 10 pont margin of victory over Giuliani. Thompson finished third, Romney finished fourth. Ehrlich dropped out and endorsed Giuliani.

On Super Tuesday, Giuliani won New York with 80 percent of the vote and Florida with 50 percent of the vote. Keating finished second in Florida and won his home state of Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas, and Tennessee. Giuliani won New Jersey, Connecticut, Vermont, Georgia (thanks to Newt Gingrich's endorsement), North Carolina (endorsed by Senator Elizabeth Dole and Rep. Sue Myrick) and Virginia. Romney won the states of Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Utah.

Nevertheless, Giuliani became the frontrunner after Super Tuesday. Romney ran out of money and dropped out.

Keating was able to win primaries in Kentucky, West Virginia and Kansas. Giuliani won the rest and clinched the Republican nomination at the end of April.

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« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2009, 01:42:24 AM »

31st (R) Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
32nd (D) Franklin Roosevelt (1933-1945)
33rd (D) Harry Truman (1945-1949)
34th (R) Thomas Dewey (1949-1953)
35th (D) Harry Truman (1953-1969)
36th (R) George Romney (1969-1977)
37th (D) John Kennedy (1977-1981)
38th (R) George Bush (1981-1989)
39th (R) Howard Baker (1989-1997)
40th (D) Evan Bayh (1997-2005)
41st (R) Mitt Romney (2005-2009)
42nd (D) Joe Biden (2009-)

Truman loses to Dewey in 1948, but Dewey's unpopularity in 1952 makes him vulnurable in a re-match with Truman. Truman wins, and with the constitution amended during his Presidency, he is able to run in 1952, 1956, 1960 and 1964...serving through the majority of the 50s and 60s.


how awesome wuld that be.
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« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2009, 10:04:49 AM »

Here is my list based on the POD that Fromme's assasination attempt on Gerald Ford is successful.

38th: Gerald Ford (R-MI), August 9th 1974-September 5th 1975
39th: Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY), September 5th 1975-January 26th, 1979*
40th: John Connally (R-TX), January 26th, 1979- January 20th, 1981
41st: John Glenn (D-OH), January 20th, 1981-January 20th,1989
42nd: Jack Kemp (R-NY), January 20th, 1989-January 20th,1996
43rd: Ann Richards (D-TX), January 20th 1996-January 20th, 2005*
44th: Bill Bradley (D-NJ), January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009
45th: Mike Huckabee (R-AR), January 20th 2009-

Notes: Rocky dies on time as per OTL, after beating Carter in the 1976 General Election. By 1996 Governor Ann Richards of TX narrowly beats out VA Governor Douglas Wilder for the nomination to win the Presidency...So does it seem like a likley list?
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