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« on: March 21, 2009, 12:02:58 PM »
« edited: March 22, 2009, 02:38:50 AM by Andy Jackson »

Don't Go Ike

34th: Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-PA) 1953-1957*
35th: Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL) 1957-1959*
36th: Samuel T. Rayburn (D-TX) 1959-1961*
37th: Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1961-1969
38th: Dan K. Moore (D-NC) 1969-1973*
39th: Henry M. Jackson (D-WA) 1973-1981*
40th: Ronald Reagan (D-CA) 1981-1985*
41st: James R. Thompson (R-IL) 1985-1993
42nd: Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 1993-2001
43rd: Ben Nelson (D-NE) 2001-2005*
44th: Lincoln Chafee (R-RI) 2005-2009*
45th: Mark Warner (D-VA) 2009-??

34. Eisenhower would declare that he wasn't in the running for reelection to the presidency on account of health issues, this coupled with Nixon being ever more polarizing than OTL would have a strong "Drop Nixon" campaign and after Eisenhower goes and endorses the opposition candidate against Nixon.

35. Stevenson would be assassinated by an ardent states rights supporter by gunshot. Stevenson would succumb to his wounds quickly and with Vice President KeFauvers death in 1957 in an assassination of his own, the presidency fell upon Speaker of the House Samuel Rayburn.

36. "Mr. Sam" would take his place as the 36th President and would serve for a little over a year and would announce that he wasn't running for the Presidency shortly after his swearing in, making him an caretaker and lame duck President.

38. Hubert Humphrey, the "Comeback Kid" would win the nomination again like in 1960 and would sail to election in 1968 with NC Governor Dan Moore as VP. Humphrey would make an tour of the nation as President-Elect and this would lead to tragedy. Sirhan B. Sirhan would gun down the President-Elect at a tour of an hotel, which Sirhan would be quickly caught and brought to justice but Humphrey would die at the hospital. Vice President-Elect Moore would become the 38th President come January and would serve his term with the distinction of continuing the draw down in Vietnam and continuing the support for Civil Rights and adding onto the several civil rights bills passed under President Rockefeller. Moore would announce that he wasn't running for the Presidency in 1970.

39. Henry "Scoop" Jackson won the nomination handidly with Birch Bayh as his VP and against Republican Raymond Shafer of PA. Jackson would serve out his first term with a strong national security-esque legislation but in 1976, Vice President Bayh would die in an aviation disaster and Jackson would appoint liberal Walter Mondale of Minnesota to fill the Vice Presidency. Jackson won reelection in a fairly close race over Republican Charles Percey of Illinois.

40. Ronald Reagan would never become an Republican on account of the Rockefeller Republicans still being in power inside the Republican Party as Barry Goldwater's 1960 campaign on an conservative platform failed against Nelson Rockefeller and Reagan would stay an conservative Democrat. In 1970, Reagan was elected Governor of California and would use this as a jumping point into the US Senate and using this to jump into the Democratic Nomination of 1984 against VP Mondale. Reagan won over Mondale and the Republicans in the general election. Under Reagan the military budget would continue to balloon and would have an economic downfall as the nation went into a recession. Reagan would loose reelection in 1984 to Illinois Governor James Thompson.

43. Conservative Governor of Nebraska Ben Nelson would push his way to the Democratic nomination against several progressive candidates, the major one being Paul Wellstone. Nelson would win the election with voter exhaustion after 16 years of Republican rule and voted in the Democrats. 9/11 would occur (basically the same OTL with the exception of the attack on the Panama Canal, which is still leased to the US) and would prompt President Nelson would round up a coalition of nations like President Thompson had done during the Gulf War but the Nelson coalition would first form a commando force to hunt and kill if necessary the leaders of the 9/11 attacks. This "Hunter" plan wouldn't work as well as the Nelson Administration wanted it to as Osama bin Laden escaped and went into hiding. In 2002, the US invaded Afghanistan and would face triumph and failure in the Afghan nation. In the 2004 Presidential Election, Nelson was defeated in a upset by Republican Lincoln Chafee.

44. Son of former Chairmen of the Republican Party (or RNC), Lincoln Chafee would become Mayor of Warwick in 1992 and would be appointed to the Senate in 1999 after the death of his father John Chafee. Lincoln Chafee would make a name for himself after his criticism of the Nelson Administration and also his "maverick" voting record. Chafee would run for the Republican Nomination of 2004 and would pick up numerous endorsements and win the nomination and choose the fairly conservative former Governor of Virginia and incumbent Senator Chuck Hagel as his running mate. The Chafee/Hagel ticket would win over the Nelson/Bayh ticket in a suprise and upset. Chafee would work out an non binding timetable for the war in Afghanistan and would lead fairly well as the administration's response to Hurricane Katrina was seen as good as President Chafee gave the credit to FEMA director James L. Witt. Even with fair approval ratings, President Chafee would loose reelection to center-conservative former Virginia Governor Mark Warner. This suprise would be linked to the American peoples weary outlook on the economic recession(which is much more mild than OTL) and President Chafee's continual assurance that the nation would get through the economic ruffpatch. Warner would use the weariness to his advantage and win over handfuls of economic conservatives with his economic plans and would go directly to the American people with the joint series of town hall debates between Chafee and Warner.
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 12:30:49 PM »

A little different Bradley effect is the POD.

The Bradley Effect

41st: George H.W. Bush (1989-1993) Republican
42nd: Thomas J. "Tom" Bradley (1993-1998) Democrat*
43rd: Bob Kerrey (1998-2001) Democrat
44th: John S. McCain III (2001-2009) Republican
45th: Francis A. "Frank" Keating (2009-??) Republican

41: Tom Bradley was elected Governor in 1982 and reelected Governor in the following 1986 Gubernatorial Election. After this, Governor Bradley would be swayed to make a Presidential run in 1992, Bradley would push himself through the primaries to the nomination. In the General Election he would win against incumbent President Bush. Bradley then became the first even African American to serve as President. Bradley would serve with honor, being reelected in 1996 but in 1998 his life was cut short after a suprise heart attack killed President Bradley and put Vice President Kerrey into office.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2009, 12:06:26 AM »

Just a dumb little though of a near continual Bush/Clinton dynasty in America.

Monarchical Democracy

41. George H.W. Bush (1989-1993) Republican
42. William J. "Bill" Clinton (1993-2001) Democrat
43. George W. Bush (2001-2009) Republican
44. Hillary R. Clinton (2009-2017) Democrat
45. John E. "Jeb" Bush (2017-2025) Republican
46. Chelsea C. Kane (2025-2033) Democrat
47. George P. Bush (2033-2041) Republican
48. Manuel "Manny" Brantley (2041-??) Independent*

48. After 52 Years of Bushism/Cintonite rule, American turns to the more obscure politician Senator Brantley to lead the nation. Calling on reform and change for the American Republic during the 2040 Presidential Election and reamending the Constitution to allow President to just serve two terms once again and other major reforms, "Manny" Brantley would become the 48th President of the United States come January.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 01:46:56 PM »

New Progressives

30. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1925) R
31. Robert LaFollette Sr (1925) P*
32. Burton Wheeler (1925-1929) P/D
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33. Charles Curtis (1929-1933) R
34. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) D*
35. Henry A. Wallace (1945-1949) D/P*
36. Thomas Dewey (1949-1957) R
37. Earl Warren (1957-1962) R*
38. Leverett Saltonstall (1962-1965) R
39. Hubert Humphrey (1965-1973) D
40. John Ashbrook (1973-1977) R
41. Bronson LaFollette (1977-1981) D
42. Bob Dole (1981) R*
43. Howard Baker (1981-1989) R
44. Bruce Babbit (1989-1993) D
45. Jack Kemp (1993-2001) R
46. John McCain (2001) R*
47. Fred Thompson (2001-2005) R*
48. John Edwards (2005-??) D*

31. LaFollette dies in 1925 of Cardiovascular Disease like OTL

32. Wheeler takes over the presidency and is luke warm at it, in 1928 Wheeler runs for the Democratic nomination after declaring himself a half breed "Democratic-Progressive" candidate for President. He fails and takes his candidacy to a Progressive ticket.

34. Roosevelt is elected in 1933 and dies in 1945 like in OTL but keeps Henry Wallace as VP.

35. Henry A. Wallace becomes President and has a hard time working with Congress, this leads to a "Boot Wallace" at the Democratic Convention in 1948 and succeeds. Wallace then runs on a Progressive third party ticket for the Presidency.

37. Earl Warren serves as VP under Dewey and succeeds Dewey as President in the 1956 Election. After reelection in 1960, President Warren is shot by a pro segregationist supporters when visiting Alabama to meet with MLK.

42. After winning the 1980 Election, Dole becomes the next victim of "Tecumseh's Curse" after only a short time in office.

46. President McCain also becomes another victim of "Tecumseh's Curse" a short time in office.

47. VP Fred Thompson is thrusted into an uneasy time as shortly after taking office, "9/11" occurs and shakes the nations and sends the nation into a war in Afghanistan.  After the waiting and pressure on Iraq and Saddam Hussein by the Thompson Administration, unsatisfaction built as Thompson's approval ratings fell.

48. Democrats would fight in the primaries as John Edwards and Howard Dean fought it out for the nomination, ultimately leading Edwards to win and some progressive Democrats to try and get Dean to run as a third party candidate in the election. Edwards played up the dissatisfaction with the Thompson Administration and won in 2004. He would win reelection in 2008 in a very close race as the economy began to go down hill and allegations of affairs by Edwards on his cancer stricken wife would crop up. Come 2009, the allegations turned into facts as a sentiment for Impeachment for President Edwards began to grow in Congress....
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2009, 10:33:08 AM »

The Symington Dynasty

35th: W. Stuart Symington (1961-1963) Democrat*
36th: John F. Kennedy (1963-1968) Democrat*
37th: John McCormack (1968-1969) Democrat
38th: Richard Nixon (1969-1974) Republican
39th: John Connally (1974-1981) Republican
40th: James W. Symington (1981) Democrat*
41st: John Glenn (1981-1989) Democrat
42nd: Robert "Bob" Dole (1989-1997) Republican
43rd: J. Fife Symington III (1997-1998) Republican*
44th: Lamar Alexander (1998-2001) Republican
45th: Paul Wellstone (2001-2003) Democrat*
46th: Harvey Gantt (2003-2009) Democrat*
47th: Kay Bay Hutchison (2009-???) Republican

35: Stuart Symington would decide to run int the primaries and after campaigning in primary states and non primary states, Symington would amass a large number of delegates. The Convention was a toss up as either Kennedy or Symington were the main challengers in the primaries and had the most delegates but some suspected a compromise candidate could take the nomination. Symington won the nomination in a close ballot and would offer the Vice Presidency to John F. Kennedy in a courtesy move and Kennedy surprisingly accepted. With the strange pairing, the Symington/Kennedy ticket won against the Nixon/Lodge in the super close election of 1960. Symington would be sworn in and would serve as a good President until after going to the south would have consequences as segregationists assassinated President Symington in a dastardly move and put Kennedy in office.

36: Vice President Kennedy came into office with the assassination of President Symington and would serve out the remainder of the slain President's term. Kennedy would be elected in his own right in 1964 against Nelson Rockefeller. Come Kennedy's first elected term, marital problems came up and that led to allegations at first of affairs between Kennedy and a number of women. The facts began to appear more readily until Congress began to call for impeachment of the quickly becoming unpopular Kennedy. President Kennedy would instead decide to resign from office.

40: Senator James Symington of Missouri would make his way to the Democratic Nomination in 1980 and would win against incumbent President Connally in a fairly close race. President Symington would only be in office for a short time when crazed man John Hinckley Jr would assassinate the President. Vice President Glenn would succeed him as President.

43: Governor Fife Symington of Arizona would run for the 1996 Republican Nomination after Dole's Vice President opted out of a run. Fife Symington would be the dark horse in the race but pulled off suprising wins and won the nomination. Symington won in a close election over the Democrats. During the 1996 Election, rumors of money laundering were floating around about Symington and when he got into office, allegations and evidence to back this up began to surface in 1997 and after a "Year of Hell" for Symington, resigned in 1998.

45: Senator Paul Wellstone defeated President Alexander in a close margin. Wellstone would lead the nation in uncertain times and would also die in 2003 of cancer. This sent the nation into mourning as Vice President Gantt succeeded Wellstone.

46: Harvey Gantt became the first African American President and would lead the nation through the War on Terror. After a close victory over John McCain in 2004, Gantt would be a good president for the remainder of his term.

47: Senator Kay B. Hutchison was elected the first ever Female President over Senator Joe Biden. Her Presidency has yet to be determined.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009, 04:41:15 PM »

Gore wins in '88

41. Al Gore Jr (1989-1997) Democratic
42. Donald Rumsfeld (1997-2000) Republican
43. Phil Gramm (2000-2001) Republican
44. Paul Wellstone (2001-2005) Democratic
45. Rick Perry (2005-2009) Democratic
46. John McCain (2009-) Republican
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2009, 03:47:36 PM »

Anachronism List of Presidents

1. Barack Obama (1789-1797) Democratic
2. George W. Bush (1797-1805) Republican
3. Bill Clinton (1805-1813) Democratic
4. George H.W. Bush (1813-1817) Republican
5. Ronald Reagan (1817-1825) Republican

6. Jimmy Carter (1825-1829) Democratic
7. Gerald Ford (1829-1832) Republican
8. Richard Nixon (1832-1837) Republican

9. Lyndon Johnson (1837-1843) Democratic
10. John Kennedy (1843-1845) Democratic

11. Dwight Eisenhower (1845-1853) Republican
12. Harry Truman (1853-1861) Democratic
13. Franklin Roosevelt (1861-1873) Democratic
14. Herbert Hoover (1873-1877) Republican
15. Calvin Coolidge (1877-1883) Republican
16. Warren Harding (1883-1885) Republican

17. Woodrow Wilson (1885-1893) Democratic
18. William H. Taft (1893-1897) Republican
19. Theodore Roosevelt (1897-1905) Republican
20. William McKinley (1905-1909) Republican

21. Grover Cleveland (1909-1913) Democratic
22. Benjamin Harrison (1913-1917) Republican
23. Grover Cleveland (1917-1921) Democratic
24. Chester A. Arthur (1921-1925) Republican
25. James Garfield (1925) Republican
26. Rutherford B. Hayes (1925-1929) Republican
27. Ulysses S. Grant (1929-1937) Republican

28. Andrew Johnson (1937-1941) Democratic (National Unity)
29. Abraham Lincoln (1941-1945) Republican
30. James Buchanan (1945-1949) Democratic

31. Franklin Pierce (1949-1953) Democratic
32. Millard Fillmore (1953-1956) Whig
33. Zachary Taylor (1956-1957) Whig

34. James K. Polk (1957-1961) Democratic
35. John Tyler (1961-1965) Whig
36. William H. Harrison (1965) Whig

37. Martin Van Buren (1965-1969) Democratic
38. Andrew Jackson (1969-1977) Democratic

39. John Q. Adams (1977-1981) Democratic-Republican
40. James Monroe (1981-1989) Democratic-Republican
41. James Madison (1989-1997) Democratic-Republican
42. Thomas Jefferson (1997-2005) Democratic-Republican

43. John Adams (2005-2009) Federalist
44. George Washington (2009-) No Party
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2009, 05:46:54 PM »

The Gipper's Gone: Reagan doesn't enter politics(things butterfly from that and his support still of moderate new dealesque stances)

President List

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 1963-1969
37. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1969-1973*
38. Claude R. Kirk, Jr. (R-FL) 1973-1977
39. Frank Church (D-ID) 1977-1981
40. Howard Baker (R-TN) 1981*
41. William F. Buckley, Jr. (R-NY) 1981-1985*
42. John Glenn (D-OH) 1985-1993
43. Chuck Robb (D-VA) 1993-1997*
44. William Weld (R-MA) 1997-2001*
45. Clint Eastwood (D-CA) 2001-2009*
46. Michael Bloomberg (R-NY) 2009-Current*

*Arthur Bremer assassinates Rockefeller on his trip to Canada.

*Howard Baker is another President killed by "Tecumseh's Curse".

*The controversial President Buckley, Jr. would bring about a late and short "Conservative Revolution" in the GOP. This was short lived after many conservatives had begun to move to the Democratic Party. Buckley's term would be marred with an gridlocked Congress between the more moderate Congress and the Conservative President Buckley. Buckley would loose reelection in 1984.

*The continuation of "The Last Coup" for the Democratic Party, Robb would be pulled down after a major recession in 1994 spread and hurt the economy and Robb's approval ratings. Robb lost to surprisingly strong GOP William Weld.

*Weld's attempts to push through grandiose social works and economic packages eroded his popularity, allowing Democrats to take back control in Congress in 1998, effectively gridlocking Congress once again.

*Eastwood's victory over Weld was no suprise but it was closer than anyone expected. Still, Eastwood's election ended the "Last Coup" in the Democratic Party, effectively molding the Democrats into the center right party in US politics. Eastwood's staunch libertarianism would hurt him after strong support for large scale"economic freedom" brought the economy in a slump in 2007 and destroyed the Democrats chances in 2008 with the eventual economic meltdown of 2008.

*Governor Bloomberg's victory was easily seen over McCain in 2008. Bloomberg's term is just starting but has become the heir to the "Rockefeller Republicanism" and also the new "Bloombergnomics" with his quick thinking in 2009 with fighting the economic meltdown.

Vice President List

38. Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1965-1969*
39. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) 1969-1973*
40. Claude R. Kirk, Jr. (R-FL) 1973*
41. John Ashbrook (R-OH) 1974-1977*
42. Birch Bayh (D-IN) 1977-1981
43. William F. Buckley, Jr. (R-NY) 1981*
44. Robert Dole (R-KS) 1982-1985
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45. Chuck Robb (D-VA) 1985-1993*
46. Clint Eastwood (D-CA) 1993-1997*
47. Harold Ford, Sr. (R-TN) 1997-2001*
48. John McCain (D-FL) 2001-2009
49. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) 2009-Current*

*Kennedy became Vice President after being put on the ticket and the subsequent victory of the Johnson/Kennedy ticket over the Rockefeller/Hruska ticket in 1964.

*The suprise choice for Rockefeller in 1968, Goldwater would opt out of the Vice Presidency in 1972, sighting "a growing political gap" that interfered with both President Rockefeller and Vice President Goldwater.

*Supporter of the "Rockefeller '68" campaign and cabinet member, Claude R. Kirk, Jr. would be chosen to replace Goldwater as Rockefeller's choice as vice president for the 1972 Presidential Election. Kirk, Jr. would quickly ascend to the presidency after the assassination of President Rockefeller.

*Appointed by President Kirk Jr. to fill out the remainder of the Vice Presidency in 1974.

*The ever controversial and charismatic William F. Buckley, Jr., the leader of the "New Conservatives" movement in the GOP. Taking up strong support for Goldwater and gaining fame for his "Bring back America" speech supporting Goldwater. After a number of what was called "stumbled into wins" in political office, conservatives would push the moderate Tennessee Howard Baker to put Buckley, Jr. on the ticket, which he did intending to only hold him on to one term. That was changed after "Tecumseh's Curse" struck and Baker was assassinated and Buckley, Jr. ascended to the Presidency.

*Dole was finally pushed through Congress by Buckley and others as the Vice Presidential candidate.

*The Governor of Virginia was chosen as Glenn's VEEP to complement him in age and charisma, this is usually seen as a major part of the "Last Coup" in the Democratic Party.

*The continual of the "Last Coup", Governor Eastwood brought huge support from conservatives and the Robb/Eastwood ticket would seal support to the Democratic Party from conservatives.

*Ford, Sr. would become the suprise pick for Weld's runningmate and the first African American Vice President in US history.

*Hatch became Vice President upon the victory of Michael Bloomberg in 2008. With that, Hatch became the first Mormon to be Vice President in US history.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 11:26:07 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2009, 09:22:25 AM by Andy Jackson »

"Optimism is a good characteristic..."
POD: Teddy Roosevelt wins in 1912.

28. Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY) 1913-1920*
29. Hiram Johnson (P-CA) 1920-1921*
30. William Jennings Byran (D-NE) 1921-1925*
31. Edward I. Edwards (D-NJ) 1925-1930*
32. William P. Hobby (D-TX) 1930-1933*
33. William Allen White (P-KS) 1933-1941*
34. Wendell Willkie (D-IN) 1941-1944*
35. James A. Farley (D-NY) 1944-1949*
36. George Patton (D-CA) 1949-1953*
37. Thomas Dewey (P-NY) 1953-1961
38. Hubert H. Humphrey (P-MN) 1961-1962*
39. Nelson Rockefeller (P-NY) 1962-1965*
40. Oveta C. Hobby (D-TX) 1965-1973*
41. Richard Nixon (D-CA) 1973-1977
42. Fred Harris (P-OK) 1977-1985
43. Spark Matsunaga (D-HA) 1985-1991*
44. Richard H. Stallings (D-ID) 1991-1993
45. Paul Tsongas (P-MA) 1993-1997*
46. Steven Schiff (P-NM) 1997*
47. Richard H. Stallings (D-ID) 1997-2001
48. Leslie B. McLemore (P-MS) 2001-2009*
49. Bob Graham (D-FL) 2009-Current

*Elected in 1912, Teddy Roosevelt would become the longest serving US President to current history. Roosevelt would bravely lead a vigorous fight against Germany and it's allies during the first World War after the entrance of the US in 1915 on the Allied side. Reelected in 1916, Roosevelt finished the later years of his term with victory as all over Europe, "Viva la Roosevelt" banner's were hung as the first World War came to an end. Roosevelt's health soon was in decline in the last years as in 1920, the great TR died.

*A Presidential term in the William Henry Harrison mold, Vice President Hiram Johnson took over the short remainder of Roosevelt's term. Johnson would loose election in 1920 against William Jennings Byran.

*"Fourth Time's the Charm" is what characterized Byran's victory in 1920, failing in 1896, 1900 and 1908, the aging Democratic leader took the nomination with ease and defeated Hiram Johnson. This former Private would achieve much in his short Presidency, the passage of a constitutional amendment for prohibition, taxation against narcotics, continual support of women's suffrage. His arguably largest expenditure of his political capitol would be the battle to ban the teaching of evolution in church run universities in Congress. Still in his short time, Byran proved he was a good President, though in 1925 after running a successful reelection, Byran would die suddenly in his sleep.

*A perplexing and sad Presidency, Edwards took over the reins and brightened the nation's gloom after the death of Byran. Edwards term was marked with small things for the most part , balancing economics, vetoing bills here and there, action on the 1927 Great Mississippi Flood. All of those were flakes of gold compared to the giant bar of gold that would be the latter 1920's. President Edwards wife would die in 1928, soon after the Stock Market began to go in 1929 and soon the nation was facing a great economic depression. After investments in the stock market, President Edwards lost much of his money, gaining him for a short time the titles of the "True Average American President" and the "Poor President" but in 1930, after slumping into a depression himself, President Edwards took his own life.

*The horror and sadness that followed the suicide of President Edwards and the Economic Depression were what the doomed Hobby Administration was in now. This youthful Texan would try economic stimulus and other "Recuperative Action" for the economy but still the nation was in the slump. In 1932, an American populace went to the polls and booted the Democrats out after 12 years of rule and returned the Progressives to power.

*A Democrat in the "Allies" supporter mold, Businessman Wendell Willkie began his term with small things in the first months but the great flash of horror and terror crept up on December 8th, 1941 when Japanese forces used a sneak attack method to attack Pearl Harbor, destroying and damaging a sizable portion of the anchored vessels there. The nation is shaken but President Willkie steels the resolve of the nation and the remaining Pacific Fleet would fight the bloody battle that forced the Japanese forces from Hawaii. Afterwards, Congress virtually by unanimous vote, declared war on the Empire of the Rising Sun. Soon their ally, Nazi Germany, declared war on the United States, thus bring the American fighter into what would be the second World War. All of Willkie's Administration would then turn to channeling the American Machine for war in the Pacific and to aid the Allies in Europe. On the eve of the 1944 election, President Willkie would die suddenly of a heart attack while in the Oval Office, pining away on his work to lead the country. When the story broke, the nation was hurt that another kind man that humbly took the highest office in the land, had passed away so suddenly.

*The Democratic Party boss, Vice President Farley took office and took the reins and began his lead, marching the nation to "Fulfill the legacy of Willkie" to victory in the waining times of the second World War. President Farley would also begin the leadership and stances that would become more or less the common practice towards the Soviets during the "Cold War". Farley wouldn't make a run in 1948 and would leave it wide open for one of the heroes of WW2, Patton, to succeed him.

*"Old Blood and Guts" ferociously won the 1948 election but his term would be short as his perceived radical stances against the Soviets nearly sparked war with them on several occasions. Soon gaffes became prevalent and the abrasive demeanor of President Patton didn't help. As his Administration became ever prevalent unpopular, his radical steps in Korea had some plus but his best saving grace became his support of desegregating the military, famously saying "If your black, white or blue and came aim a gun effectively, your good in my book". Patton wouldn't run for reelection in 1952 and would thus leave the election year for the Progressive to grasp.

*Elected in 1960, the continuation of many policies of the Dewey Administration, President Humphrey would be slain after making a trip down to Puerto Rico by a Puerto Rican independence supporter at Humphrey's meeting in San Juan to talk about "Strength in the Carribean for Democracy".

*Vice President Rockefeller would succeed Humphrey after his death and would loose election in 1964 after the issues facing Vietnam weighed him down.

*Seen as the perfect choice for the times, In the close 1964 election Oveta beat Rocky and would ascend to the Presidency as the first women to do so. Hobby's term were marked with some semi implementation of the "Patton Pledge" and major civil rights legislation after another important Texan and President Hobby joined forces and pushed through the 1966 Civil Rights Bill, gaining the ire of one South Carolinan, gaining the quip "Texas: The Place of Fascism!". In 1966, after tributes to peace and other token things, North Vietnam finally began it's official war against the South after a long and tedious diplomatic period held the forces at bay. President Hobby would soon rally support and come to the aid of the South, bring the military minds and might to bare. Soon the tide of war seemed favorable, Americans supported it and so did Politicians, so much that in 1968 they reelected Hobby for another term. In 1970 though, American and South Vietnamese forces began to become bogged down and popular support slowly eroded.

*Vice President Nixon took office and began a vicious and varying war strategy in Vietnam. Though the tide began to turn, many Progressives decried that it was becoming to costly if life and to deadly. Nixon instead of heeding these calls, steamed on. Victory did come and Vietnam was united under the government in Saigon but the loss of life was great and Americans had lost faith in Nixon. What would become the mantra of change in '76 would be "We may have won this war in Vietnam, but at what cost?". "At What Cost?" was taken by the Harris campaign and crushed Nixon in the 1976 election.

*"The man that could light up a room with his wit, a man that make Congress barable"-Sen. Ronald Reagan. Those were the words that summed up the man from Hawaii, Spark Matsunaga. The kind and well liked by most his peers in Congress, was elected in 1984 to carry out a moderate Presidency during his term and to make history as the first President of Asian descent. Opening up the channels evermore to the USSR, Matsunaga was seen as a man of peace for that. Though with some early warnings, what was called "A Fair Fight" against his Prostate Cancer would begin. Ultimatly another President would die an sad death and VP Stallings would take over.

*The "Greek President", Tsongas was elected in the close '92 election to carry on much of perceived Matsunaga legacy that "Stallings didn't fulfill" and would be a capable leader, until an economic slump set in around 1995. This weighed down the hopeful administration until Tsongas new pledge to the nation not to seek another term of office as President. This was sadly followed by the death of the President Tsongas when he lost the fight against his cancer.

*The shortest President in history and the first ever Jewish President, the former Vice President turned President after his loss in the 1996 Presidential Election. Schiff served out the few days left until Stallings took office.

*First African American President during the up and down War on Terror years.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2009, 09:12:51 AM »

IOTL, Matsunaga died on 4/15/1990.

Damn, I just got caught up that I missed that tid bit. Oh well, I think I could change it, so no biggy. Thanks for pointing that out though, probably wouldn't have noticed.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2009, 03:34:50 PM »
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The Scare
A little different Anarchist bombings leads to different Palmer Raids and a different Alexander M. Palmer and ultimately to a different world.....

28. Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) 1913-1920*
29. Thomas R. Marshall (D-IN) 1920-1921*
30. Alexander M. Palmer (D-PA) 1921-1922*
31. Oscar Underwood (D-AL) 1922-1925*
32. Robert La Follette, Sr. (R-WI) 1925*
33. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (R-NY) 1925-1933*
34. John Garner (D-TX) 1933-1937
35. Frederick Steiwer (R-OR) 1937-1939*
36. Arthur H. Vandenberg (R-MI) 1939-1949*
37. Claude Pepper (D-FL) 1949-1957
38. Harold Stassen (R-MN) 1957-1964*
39. William F. Knowland (R-CA) 1964-1969*
40. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1969-1977*
41. Frances Farenthold (D-TX) 1977-1982*
42. Henry M. Jackson (D-WA) 1982-1985*
43. Howard Baker (R-TN) 1985-1993
44. Richard Holbrooke (D-NY) 1993-2001*
45. John Danforth (R-MO) 2001-2006*
46. John McKay (R-WA) 2006-2009*
47. Denise Freeman (D-GA) 2009-Current*

*Forced from office after Congressional and other means ruled Wilson "Incapable and incapacitated" to serve as President in 1920. This was of course aided by Lansing and Palmer pushing towards this in the days before the historic ruling.

*Vice President Marshall begrudgingly ascended to the Presidency after the "Wilson Ruling". Marshall's term was seen with a turbulent time, the need to transition back from a wartime period to a peacetime one was the basic need. Marshall's great victory of his short term came with the Passage of the League of Nations Treaty in the Senate, although an sliced and diced one at that. Marshall decided not the run in 1920.

*Attorney General Palmer united the warring Democratic Party as he united the factions behind him and steamed forward towards victory in 1920 over the Republicans. Continuing and building on much of President Marshall's plan and hope to undertake. In his short term, President Palmer saw several major things occur, his pardon of Eugene Debs, the growing tension with Turkey with the US support of the DRA that led to the short but bloody "Turkish-American War". In 1922, a anarchists assassinated President Palmer.

*Vice President Underwood succeeded President Palmer. Served a respectable term but lost election in 1924 after voter fatigue with the Democrats.

*Died of Cardiovascular Disease shortly into his term.

*The young son on Theodore Roosevelt and former Governor of New York, Roosevelt, Jr. succeeded La Follette in 1925 and served over the roaring 20's. Economics and the Depression that followed did Roosevelt, Jr. in as "Rooseveltvilles" and "Junior Cities" began to spring up as President Roosevelt, Jr. did what he could to sooth the ailing nation. The Republicans would loose handidly in the 1932 Election.

*Succeeding the lukewarm Garner Administration, Steiwer would announce his "Different Path" for the nation. This "Path" recalled some of the better programs implemented by President Garner and instead supplemented more business friendly programs, his other "legacy" would be his support of the United States breaking with the League of Nations, calling them "effective as lighter fuel to put out a fire". President Steiwer would die after loosing the battle with his ailing health.

*Ascended to the Presidency after the death of Frederick Steiwer, Vandenberg became the man that the American people needed at the time. Vandenberg began to implement bipartisan social and economic works that began to aileve the economic woes, announcing that he had "Seen the light" and now knew that he must work with all to "get the job done". This was only a few of the changes, Vandenberg began to transform quickly from an "isolationist" to a "internationalist" through his Presidency and after election and that fateful attack on Pearl Harbor, Vandenberg pushed forward against the Axis powers, Japan, Italy, Germany and Turkey. After being pushed to run in 1944 and in many ways break the legacy of the two terms to "finish the fight in the 2nd Great War", Vandenberg won and served through the end of the 2nd Great War in 1947 and happily left office at the end of his term in 1949. His later legacy would also lead to the creation of the "United Nations" organization.

*US Ambassador to the UN, Stassen ran a successful campaign in 1956 and beat the Democrats in that frantic election year. With the "Suez Spat" and the moves in the Hungary Revolution, only a light of a match was needed to light the powder keg. Soviet forces would be the big spark as they would move in weapons and what would turn to be, major missile bases in East Turkey. This would be a response towards the rearmament of West Germany and West Turkey and their admittance into the NATO Alliance. With that, hardball diplomacy moves made by both the United States and the Soviet Union, the powder keg exploded as Soviet forces marched across the Turkish and German borders and began what became the "3rd Great War". President Stassen led the nation in the dark days as the Allies fought against the onslaught of Soviet forces, praying that the Soviets wouldn't advance any further in their nuclear field. The 3rd Great War would steam on as in 1963, President Stassen was assassinated while on a visit to Great Britain by a communist sympathizer.

*VP Knowland succeeded Stassen and would carry out the bloody and terrible last years of the 3rd Great War and the arguably tougher reconstructions years afterwards.

*The 1st Catholic President and the former US Ambassador to the UN turned Secretary of State and now President of these United States. Kennedy embodied the changing years of the late 60's and the 70's, the bipartisan choice for Secretary of State under the Stassen and Knowland Administration, Kennedy would set out major reconstruction plans for Europe, China and other areas of the world that were rocked by the 3rd Great War. Kennedy would also being a massive funding toward the NASA program to "reach the heavens and the stars". This normalcy and coupled with change made Kennedy one of the most popular Presidents in present history.

*Governor Farenthold became the first women President in the historic 1976 Presidential election against her opponent, US Ambassador to the UN Anne Armstrong, also a Texan. Reelected in 1980, Farenthold was assassinated by a crazed man when the Madame President attended the opening of Vandenberg, what would become the highly popular and critically acclaimed film about former President Vandenberg.

*VP Jackson would ascend to the Presidency and would serve as a good man for the job but like Oscar Underwood, voter fatigue and the grand charisma that Jackson lacked did him in in the 1984 Presidential Election.

*Another US Ambassador to the UN turned President, Holbrooke would be remember as presiding over a fairly quiet era of the 90's. The great feat of the 90's occurred in 1996, with the successful manned mission of the Kennedy to Mars.

*Suffered a major heart attack in 2006 after the stress of the War on Islamic Terrorism and Neo-Communism.

*Succeeded President Danforth after the death of him, served out of the remainder of what would be the last three years of John Danforth's second term. Presided over the victory in the Second Korean War. A shaky world economy effected the American market negatively and led to a Democratic victory in 2008 over President McKay.

*The first African American President and second President to be a women, President Freeman's term has just started.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 07:58:35 PM »

The Liberal Party of America
New York's third party and Willkie's hopes come to fruition all on account of Willkie lives a little longer.

33. Harry Truman (D-MO) 1945-1949
34. Wendell Willkie (L-NY) 1949*
35. Henry Wallace (L-IA) 1949-1953*
36. W. Averell Harriman (D-NY) 1953-1961
37. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) 1961-1963*
38. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1963-1969*
39. Eugene McCarthy (L-MN) 1969-1973
40. James L. Buckley (D/NU-NY) 1973-1977*
41. Nelson Rockefeller (L-NY) 1977-1980*
42. John Brademas (D-IN) 1980-1981*
43. Steve Symms (D-ID) 1981-1989
44. Mario Cuomo (L/NU-NY) 1989-1997*
45. John McCain (R/NU-AZ) 1997-2005*
46. Richard Gephardt (D-MO) 2005-2009
47. Russ Feingold (L-WI) 2009-Current*

*Mayor Willkie was elected with former Vice President Wallace over Truman, Taft and Thurmond in 1948 on the Liberal Party of America ticket. Died shortly in office in 1949.

*Former Vice President under FDR, became President on death of Willkie. Didn't win reelection in 1952.

*Elected in 1960, assassinated in Florida by a supposed Cuban communist supporter.

*VEEP under Kefauver, first Catholic President John F. Kennedy was weighed down by Vietnam, lost election in 1968.

*United the then conservative Republican Party and the Democratic Party into a "National Unity" in 1972. Buckley lost reelection in 1976 and the National Unity Alliance broke and the Republicans had many of it's conservative members leave to be officially Democrats from now on.

*Died of a massive stroke before the 1980 Liberal Party Nomination.

*Speaker of the House Brademas ascended to the Presidency after the death of President Rockefeller in 1980 and Vice President Humphrey in 1978. Served out remainder of Rockefeller's term.

*The Governor of New York, Mario Cuomo forged another "National Unity" Alliance with the now moderate GOP, choosing Senate Minority Leader John McCain as his runningmate. Served two terms.

*Became the first Republican President since Herbert Hoover, presided over two terms of office, led to the dissolution of the remainder of the GOP and them officially joining the Liberal Party.

*First Jewish President.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2009, 10:10:37 AM »
« Edited: November 04, 2009, 12:05:11 PM by Andy Jackson »

Southern Strategy
POD: Nixon goes a completely different direction with a "Southern Strategy" and chooses MLK as his VEEP.

President List

36. Lyndon Johnson (1963-1969) D-TX
37. Richard Nixon (1969-1974) R-CA*
38. Carl Albert (1974) D-OK*
39. Martin Luther King, Jr. (1974-1977) R-AL*
40. Birch Bayh (1977-1981) D-IN
41. George H.W. Bush (1981-1983) R-TX*
42. James R. Thompson (1983-1989) R-IL
43. Coretta Scott King (1989-1994) D-AL*
44. Dick Gephardt (1994-2001) D-MO
45. Dan Quayle (2001-2005) R-IN*
46. Lamar Alexander (2005-2009) R-TN
47. Ty Ross (2009-Current) D-AZ*

*Resigned after Watergate scandal.

*Became President with Presidency, Vice Presidency vacant, nominated King as Vice President and resigned.

*First African American President.

*Assassinated by Iranian radical.

*First Female President, assassinated on the trail for candidates in the 1994 Congressional Elections.

*Assassinated by Vladimir Arutyunian in Georgia.

*First Homosexual President.

Vice President List

 39. Martin Luther King, Jr. (1969-1973) R-AL*
40. Martin Luther King, Jr. (1974) R-AL*
41. Nelson Rockefeller (1974-1977) R-NY
42. Jerry Brown (1977-1981) D/I-CA*
43. James R. Thompson (1981-1983) R-IL
44. Howard Baker (1984-1989) R-TN
45. Dick Gephardt (1989-1994) D-MO
46. Patricia Schroeder (1994-2001) D-CO*
47. Lamar Alexander (2001-2006) R-TN
48. Mark Neumann (2006-2009) R-WI
49. Evan Bayh (2009-Current) D-IN

*First African American Vice President, resigned after "unnecessary force" by Nixon to expand the Vietnam War.

*Nominated and confirmed by Congress under President Albert, became President after Albert resignation.

*Broke with President Bayh and his handling of the war in Iran, ran under the "Progressive Party" banner in 1980.

*First Female Vice President.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2009, 12:14:21 AM »

"We Must and We Will..."
A list based on the alternate history story "Must and Shall". Without further ado, a slice of Radical Republicanism Dystopia, USA.

16. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) 1861-1864*
17. Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 1864-1869
18. John C. Fremont (R-CA) 1869-1877
19. Benjamin Butler (R-MA) 1877-1879*
20. Lyman Trumbull (R-IL) 1879-1881**
21. Frederick Douglass (R-NY) 1881-1883*
22. Thomas W. Ferry (R-MI) 1883-1885
23. William T. Sherman (R-OH) 1885-1891**
24. James G. Blaine (R-ME) 1891-1893**
25. William B. Allison (R-IA) 1893-1897
26. David Palmer (ND-IL) 1897-1900*
27. James H. Kyle (ND-DA) 1900-1908**
28. Charles A. Towne (ND-MN) 1908-1909
29. Robert M. La Follette (R-WI) 1909-1917
30. Joseph G. Cannon (R-IL) 1917-1923**
31. Hiram Johnson (R-CA) 1923-1925
32. Robert M. La Follette (NR-WI) 1925**
33. George W. Norris (NR-NE) 1925-1929
34. Hugh L. Nichols (ND-OH) 1929-1937
35. Fiorello H. La Guardia (R-NY) 1937-1946**
36. Charles P. Taft II (R-OH) 1946-1953
37. Andrew F. Schoeppel (R-KS) 1953-1957
38. Adlai Stevenson II (ND-IL) 1957-1964*
39. Johnston Murray (ND-SQ) 1964-1965
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1965-1973
41. Adlai Stevenson III (ND-IL) 1973-1977
42. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1977-1978**
43. John Culver (R-IA) 1978-1981
44. Rudy Perpich (R-MN) 1981-1989
45. Ed Koch (R-NY) 1989-1993
46. Larry Agran (ND/NU-CA) 1993-1995*
47. G. John Humphrey (R/NU-NH) 1995*
48. Ralph Nader (R-CT) 1995-1997
49. N. Augustus McPherson (R-PA) 1997-Present

*Assassinated in office
**Died of natural causes in office
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2009, 01:25:48 PM »

Radical Republicanism Dystopia, USA.

16. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) 1861-1864*
17. Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 1864-1869
18. John C. Fremont (R-CA) 1869-1877
19. Benjamin Butler (R-MA) 1877-1879*
20. Lyman Trumbull (R-IL) 1879-1881**
21. Frederick Douglass (R-NY) 1881-1883*
22. Thomas W. Ferry (R-MI) 1883-1885
23. William T. Sherman (R-OH) 1885-1891**
24. James G. Blaine (R-ME) 1891-1893**
25. William B. Allison (R-IA) 1893-1897
26. David Palmer (ND-IL) 1897-1900*
27. James H. Kyle (ND-DA) 1900-1908**
28. Charles A. Towne (ND-MN) 1908-1909
29. Robert M. La Follette (R-WI) 1909-1917
30. Joseph G. Cannon (R-IL) 1917-1923**
31. Hiram Johnson (R-CA) 1923-1925
32. Robert M. La Follette (NR-WI) 1925**
33. George W. Norris (NR-NE) 1925-1929
34. Hugh L. Nichols (ND-OH) 1929-1937
35. Fiorello H. La Guardia (R-NY) 1937-1946**
36. Charles P. Taft II (R-OH) 1946-1953
37. Andrew F. Schoeppel (R-KS) 1953-1957
38. Adlai Stevenson II (ND-IL) 1957-1964*
39. Johnston Murray (ND-SQ) 1964-1965
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1965-1973
41. Adlai Stevenson III (ND-IL) 1973-1977
42. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1977-1978**
43. John Culver (R-IA) 1978-1981
44. Rudy Perpich (R-MN) 1981-1989
45. Ed Koch (R-NY) 1989-1993
46. Larry Agran (ND/NU-CA) 1993-1995*
47. G. John Humphrey (R/NU-NH) 1995*
48. Ralph Nader (R-CT) 1995-1997
49. N. Augustus McPherson (R-PA) 1997-Present

*Assassinated in office
**Died of natural causes in office


How is that dystopia?
Well in the beginning Presidents of the list, they are fairly balanced, but in the coming presidents that I couldn't specify but with radical republicanism in power, it sends shockwaves through the nation, the moderates in the Republican party loose their fight against the Radicals. Humphrey isn't OTL Humphrey, he's somewhat like Nixon, some wiretapping, spying on the other party and power corrupts him quite a bit to the point he wanted to continue to run but his death in 1978 only stopped that. His "lackey's" are elected after his death as the US becomes more and more "undemocratic" as a ever powerful and ever growing fanaticism in the Radical Republicans has a solid grip on the nation.

It's only when Agran is elected on a National Unity ticket is there some hope of a true two party nation, but both Agran and G. J. Humphrey is assassinated, some allegations put it with radical republican support. With that, it ushers in Nader, who would serve out Agran/G. J. Humphrey's term. After that, Newton Augustus McPherson would rise to power on a mound of charisma, fiery spirit and nationalism and would be elected in 1996, reelected in 2000, 2004 and 2008 and would be talked about running again in 2012 and beyond. Under McPherson, there's is a much stricter electoral commission, usually disqualifying more popular candidates that want to run against McPherson and showing in 2008, there is practically no opponents.

McPherson also gives evermore aid to the massive "Church of Lincoln-ism" and continues the occupation of the former Confederate states. McPherson also would whip the nation into a fierce nationalistic fervor against the whole "Cold War" against Brazil and it's allies. So basically the moderates are defeated, the Democrats and the National Democrats collapse as corruption grows and grows in the Republican Party, to the point that it begins to erode the liberties the US was founded on, only to be replaced by boogieman fear and nationalistic fervor and hate for non "True Democratic Believers" and a mounting undemocratic system.

(Yes I know that this is probably hackish but just wanted to have some wonky fun)
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2009, 12:11:01 AM »

This has been a TL idea that I've kicked around if I should make after I finish my "Perot-President" TL.

Lindy Loo Land
POD: Lindbergh runs in 1940 and wins, ushering in the tumultuous times of the Cold War with the US and it's allies against Nazi Germany in the 40's to the 80's to the current times of the growing storm clouds that gather that some label "World War 2".

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) 1933-1941
33. Charles A. Lindbergh (R-MN) 1941-1944*
34. Hiram Johnson (R-CA) 1944-1945*
35. Cordell Hull (D-TN) 1945-1953
36. Chester W. Nimitz (D-TX) 1953-1957
37. Douglas MacArthur (R-NY) 1957-1962*
38. Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1962-1965
39. Stuart Symington (D-MO) 1965-1973
40. Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1973-1977
41. Morris Udall (D-AZ) 1977-1982*
42. Robert Vaughn (D-CA) 1982-1985
43. Shirley T. Black (R-CA) 1985-1993*
44. Henry Cisneros (D-TX) 1993-1998*
45. Nick Rahall (D-WV) 1998-2001
46. George Pataki (R-NY) 2001-2007*
47. Joe Brown (R-NV) 2007-2009
48. Philip M. Roth (D-AK) 2009-Current*

*Assassinated by Japanese agent during the Pacific War.

*Succeeded Lindbergh, planned a hopeful invasion of Japanese mainland.

*Assassinated in New York City by a crazed Italian American citizen on the basis that MacArthur was the Antichrist.

*First Mormon President, killed in 1982 after fateful trip to the reorganized Federal Republic of Germany.

*First Female President, former Hollywood star turned Congresswomen and Senator.

*First Hispanic President, brought impeachment proceedings on the grounds of bribery. Opted to resign from office instead of facing impeachment, Nick Rahall pardoned Cisneros of all charges in 1999.

*First Catholic President, elected in 2000 and reelected in 2004. Was killed in the attack on the UoN assembly building in San Francisco by the 06/18/07 Neo-Hitlerite terrorists.

*First Jewish President, moved with family in the 40's after the infamous Newark and Trenton riots and succeeding events to the Jewish Northern Territories (JNT). Became Governor of the united Alaskan state after a majority of JNT's voted to join together with the state of Alaska in the early 1990's. Current President of the United States, now faces the growing threat from the Neo-Hitlerite nations of East Europe.
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2009, 03:46:49 PM »

The Greatest Test

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) 1933-1937
33. Alfred "Alf" Landon (R-KS) 1937-1941
34. Cordell Hull (D-TN) 1941*
35. Prentiss M. Brown (D-MI) 1941-1944*
36. Sam Rayburn (D-TX) 1944-1949*
37. Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY) 1949-1957
38. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) 1957-1958*
39. Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL) 1958-1961*
40. Jesse Owens (R-OH) 1961-1962*
41. Roman Hruska (R-NE) 1962-1969
42. Franklin D. Roosevelt, Jr. (D-NY) 1969-1977*
43. Alan W. Steelman (R-TX) 1977-1985
44. Scott M. Matheson (D-UT) 1985-1989*
45. Nancy L. Kassebaum (R-KS) 1989-1997*
46. William "Bill" Clinton (D-AR) 1997-1999*
47. Neil Goldschmidt (D-OR) 1999-2001*
48. Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani (R-NY) 2001-2005*
49. Michael Jordan (D-IL) 2005-2009
50. Wesley Clark (R-AR) 2009-Current*

*Went to Japan to continue to barter with them to stop there aggressive on December 7th, was captured by them as the Japanese attacked Hawaii. After there ransom wasn't met, Hull was killed.

*Assassinated by a Japanese agent on the campaign trail for the 1944 presidential election.

*First Speaker to succeed to the presidency, nominated in a special Democratic convention and won in 1944. Ordered the dropping of three atomic bombs on Japan, the sights being Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Kokura. Led the dismantling of the empire of Japan and the creation of the Republic of Japan. Lost in 1948 to Dewey.

*Maverick President Kefauver was gunned down at night by a group of hire hands by the mob in hopes of silencing the "Crimebuster" and his crusade forever.

*Succeeded Kefauver, continued to lead Kefauver's "War on Crime and Corruption". Survived an assassination attempt on himself in 1959.

*First African American President, killed in 1962 when a KKK member crashed into President Owen's motorcade with a truck filled with explosives.

*First son to be elected President as his father did since the pair of John and John Quincy Adams. Roosevelt, Jr led the United States forces during the Japan War of the 70's that ended the aggressor forces against Japan that wished to restore the Empire.

*First Mormon President, lost reelection in 1988 because of a still faltering economy.

*First Female President and first daughter, father pair to both be elected President.

*Impeached by Congress on the basis of the Whitewater scandal and the whole lot of affairs Clinton had. Resigned in 1999 in hopes of not facing conviction by Congress.

*First Jewish President, the former two term governor of Oregon would succeed Clinton in the presidency. Lost in the landslide 2000 election to popular "Crimebuster" Rudolph Giuliani.

*Was weakened after his aim at lowering taxes, guarding civil liberties and a peaceful term was shaken by the destruction of the UN headquarters on Navy Island by Japanese Imperial insurgents when they hijacked a plane and flew it into the building in late 2001. This prompted Giuliani to take a security and homeland safety oriented presidency, one that many liberals saw as a move that would greatly decreased civil liberties. Called for the "end of the Quadrate of enemy powers, Japan, Iraq, Libya and North Vietnam". Was weakened by the primary battle by Governor Howard Dean. Lost his 2004 reelection.

*Newly elected President, calls for war with Japan and it's allies now are what his presidency is enveloped in, some calling it the second "Freezing War" of the likes with the US and the USSR after World War Two.
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2010, 03:33:42 PM »

"You've got the horns!"

Presidential List
34. Dwight "Ike" Eisenhower (R-KS) 1953-1961
35. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 1961-1962*
36. John "Jack" F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1962-1969*
37. George W. Romney (R-MI) 1969-1972*
38. Hiram L. Fong (R-HA) 1972-1977*
39. Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) 1977-1981
40. Howard H. Baker Jr. (R-TN) 1981-1983*
41. Mark O. Hatfield (R-OR) 1983-1989
42. Joseph "Joe" R. Biden Jr. (D-DE) 1989-1997
43. G. Scott Romney (R-MI) 1997-2005*
44. Thomas "Tom" A. Daschle (D-SD) 2005-2013
45. John E. Sununu (R-NH) 2013-Current*

*Assassinated on his trip to the University of Mississipi
*First Roman Catholic President
*First Mormon President, assassinated by Arthur Bremer
*First Asian American President
*Died when Samuel Byck crashed a single engine Cessna into the White House
*Broke Tecumseh's Curse, son of a former President to become a POTUS since John Adams and John Q. Adams
*First Arab American President

Vice Presidential List
36. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) 1953-1961
37. John "Jack" F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1961-1962*
38. Thomas LeRoy Collins (D-FL) 1965-1969
39. Hiram L. Fong (R-HA) 1969-1972*
40. Paul D. Laxalt (R-NV) 1973-1977
41. Adlai E. Stevenson III (D-IL) 1977-1981
42. Mark O. Hatfield (R-OR) 1981-1983
43. John N. Dalton (R-VA) 1985-1987*
44. Thomas George "Mickey" Leland (D-TX) 1989-1997*
45. H. Ross Perot (R-TX) 1997-2005
46. Charles "Chuck" E. Schumer (D-NY) 2005-2013
47. Thomas LeRoy Collins Jr. (R-FL) 2013-Current

*First Roman Catholic Vice President
*First Asian American Vice President
*Died of Lung Cancer
*First African American Vice President
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2010, 12:08:23 PM »

Vantage Point
A wonky Alternate TL.

25. William McKinley (Republican-Ohio) 1897-1901*
26. Thomas A. Edison (Republican-New Jersey) 1901-1909
27. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-New York) 1909-1917

28. William J. Byran (Democrat-Nebraska) 1917-1924*
29. Oscar Underwood (Democrat-Alabama) 1924-1925
30. Frank O. Lowden (Republican-Illinois) 1925-1933
31. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democrat-New York) 1933-1941
32. Wendell Willkie (Republican-New York) 1941-1944*
33. Arthur Vandenburg (Republican-Michigan) 1944-1949
34. Harry Truman (Republican-Missouri) 1949-1953

35. R. Buckminister "Bucky" Fuller (Futurist-California) 1953-1961
36. Orval E. Faubus (Liberal-Arkansas) 1961-1962*
37. Orville L. Freeman (Liberal-Minnesota) 1962-1969*
38. Margaret Truman (Republican-Missouri) 1969-1981*
39. Walter Mondale (Liberal-Minnesota) 1981-1989*
40. H. Ross Perot Sr. (Futurist-Texas) 1989-1997
41. Jefferson A. Thomas (Republican-Arkansas) 1997-2005*
42. Warren Buffett (Futurist-Nebraska) 2005-2013*
43. Dino Rossi (Republican-Washington) 2013-Current

*Assassinated by Leon Czolgosz.
*Died from a mix of fatigue and diabetes.
*Died from Heart Disease.
*Assassinated by Democratic Party extremist.
*First Lutheran President.
*Broke "George Washington's Promise" and served three terms, First Female President.
*Ended "Tecumseh's Curse".
*First African American President.
*Son of former Vice President Howard Buffett.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2010, 02:18:52 AM »
« Edited: February 22, 2010, 10:02:43 PM by Andy Jackson »

My own take on a "President William J. Bryan"

A Cross of Gold, A Time of Change

24. Grover Cleveland (D-NY) March 4, 1893 - March 4, 1897
25. William J. Bryan (D-NE) March 4, 1897 - June 5, 1899*
26. Arthur Sewall (D-ME) June 5, 1899 - September 5, 1900**
27. Edwin F. Uhl (D-MI) September 5, 1900 - March 4, 1901***
28. Thomas Brackett Reed (R-ME) March 4, 1901 - December 7, 1902**
29. William A. Stone (R-PA) December 7, 1902 - July 4, 1907*
30. Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL) July 4, 1907 - March 4, 1913***
31. John J. "Black Jack" Pershing (R-MO) March 4, 1913 - March 4, 1921
32. Oscar W. Underwood (D-AL) March 4, 1921 - January 25, 1929**
33. Alfred E. "Al" Smith (D-NY) January 25, 1929 - March 4, 1933****
34. William F. Lemke (R-ND) March 4, 1933 - January 20, 1941
35. Alben W. Barkley (D-KY) January 20, 1941 - December 8, 1941*****
36. Prentiss M. Brown (D-MI) January 13, 1942 - January 20, 1953******
37. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN) January 20, 1953 - January 20, 1961
38. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) January 20, 1961 - December 11, 1962*
39.Edmund G. "Pat" Brown, Sr. (D-CA) December 11, 1962 - January 20, 1965
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) January 20, 1965 - January 20, 1973
41. John F. "Jack" Kennedy (D-MA) January 20, 1973 - October 8, 1975*******
42. Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) October 8, 1975 - January 20, 1977
43. Edward W. Brooke II (R-MA) January 20, 1977 - March 18, 1981***
44. John Jacob Rhodes, Jr. (R-AZ) March 18, 1981 - January 20, 1989
45. Richard F. "Dick" Celeste (D-OH) January 20, 1989 - April 13, 1993*
46. Richard B. "Dick" Cheney (D-TX) April 13, 1993 - January 20, 2001
47. George W. Bush (R-CT) January 20, 2001 - February 7, 2001*
48. Charles T. "Chuck" Hagel (R-VA) February 7, 2001 - January 20, 2009
49. William J. "Will" Clinton (D-AR) January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2013
50. Jennifer A. Gonzalez (R-PR) January 20, 2013 - Current***

*Youngest President to the elected, assassinated by Leon Czolgosz at the 1899 Pan-American Exposition at Cayuga Island.
**First Swedenborgian President, suffered a stroke of apoplexy on September 2nd and died three days later.
***First Secretary of State to become President.
**Died of a massive heart attack at his desk in the Oval Office.
*Killed on his visit of Jacksonville, Florida to bolster support in the German-American War when German naval forces took the city by suprise and bombarded the city.
***Second Secretary of State to become President on account of Vice President Hitt's death in 1906.
**Passed away suddenly of natural causes.
****First Roman Catholic President.
*****On a visit to the Japanese homeland to discuss an end to the tense peace between the two nations, the Empire of Japan launched their assault on Hawaii and Barkley was imprisoned as a "Prisoner of War". This brought the United States into the 2nd Great War.
******Served as Acting President for the time between December and January as American diplomats at least hoped to get Barkley free. To no success, Brown became the 36th President on January 13th. Led the nation through the 2nd Great War and broke the Washington Tradition(Served about 11 years).
*Assassinated by Richard Paul Pavlick on Johnson's double trip to the Republic of Cuba and Miami, Florida, where Pavlick crashed his explosives ladden van into President Johnson's car.
*******Resigned from office after his spiral into depression after the death of First Lady Marilyn M. Kennedy.
***First African American President, assassinated by John Hinckley, Jr. on Brooke's trip to do a speaking event at the Hilton Washington Hotel.
*Killed on a visit to Lebanon by a bomb planted on the President's car. The attack was linked to the Baathist governments in Syria and Iraq, which the United States under President Cheney declared war on them.
*Assassinated by sniper Robert Pickett, who suffered from emotional and economic problems and blamed the "Tax and Spend Republicans" for the cause of it all.
***First Puerto Rican and Female President.
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2010, 04:03:17 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Gonz%C3%A1lez
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2010, 11:19:57 AM »

The American Lifestyle
POD: The Republicans lose in a 50 state sweep in 1936 and shrink to become a minor third party. The America First Party replaces it as opposition against the Democrats, who many join with Phillip's Willkie's Liberal Party after the scandal ridden Mills Presidency.

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democrat-New York) March 4, 1933 - April 12, 1945*
33. Alben W. Barkley (Democrat-Kentucky) April 12, 1945 - January 20, 1953
34. Douglas MacArthur (America First-New York) January 20, 1953 - January 20, 1957
35. Adlai E. Stevenson II (Democrat-Illinois) January 20, 1957 - January 20, 1965
36. Richard M. Nixon (America First-California) January 20, 1965 - January 20, 1969
37. Eugene "Gene" McCarthy (Democrat-Minnesota) January 20, 1969 - February 7, 1971**/***
38. Wilbur D. Mills (Democrat-Arkansas) February 7, 1971 - January 20, 1973
39. Phillip Willkie (Liberal-Indiana) January 20, 1973 - January 20, 1981
40. Paul W. "Bear" Bryant (America First-Alabama) January 20, 1981 - January 26, 1983*
41. James L. Buckley (America First-New York) January 26, 1983 - January 20, 1985
42. Lowell P. Weicker, Jr. (Liberal-Connecticut) January 20, 1985 - January 20, 1993
43. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr. (Liberal-Illinois) January 20, 1993 - January 20, 1997***
44. Patrick J. "Pat" Buchanan (America First-Virginia) January 20, 1997 - September 11, 2001**
45. Raymond L. "Ray" Flynn (America First-Massachusetts) September 11, 2001 - January 20, 2005
46. Barbara L. Boxer (Liberal-California) January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009***
47. Piyush "Bobby" Jindal (America First-Louisiana) January 20, 2009 - Current Date***

*Died into his fourth term from a cerebral hemorrhage.
**/***Assassinated by Arthur Bremer, First Roman Catholic President.
*Died in office from a massive heart attack.
***First African American President.
**Assassinated by Serbian terrorists.
***First Jewish and Female President.
***First Indian American President.
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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2010, 04:58:37 PM »

"Winter the Storm"
The POD is similar to the alternate history story "The Winterberry" in which Kennedy survives the assassination in 1963, but ends up mentally handicapped. Because of this, the GOP is still thriving in New England, the Democrats are hawks on foreign policy and the Rockefeller family seems to be the one to have a curse upon them.

34. Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower (R-NY) January 20th, 1953 - January 20th, 1961
35. John F. "Jack" Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1961 - November 26th, 1963***
Acting. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) November 26th, 1963 - January 20th, 1965
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) January 20th, 1965 - January 20th, 1969
37. Winthrop A. Rockefeller (R-AR) January 20th, 1969 - November 12th, 1972**
38. Edward W. Brooke III (R-MA) November 12th, 1972 - January 20th, 1977***
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY) January 20th, 1977 - January 26th, 1979*
40. Alan W. Steelman (R-TX) January 26th, 1979 - January 20th, 1981
41. Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) January 20th, 1981 - September 1st, 1983*
42. Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy (D-MA) September 1st, 1983 - January 20th, 1989
43. Warren B. Rudman (R-NH) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1997***
44. Zell B. Miller (D-GA) January 20th, 1997 - September 11th, 2001*
45. John F. Kerry (D-MA) September 11th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
46. Mark F. Rockefeller (R-NY) January 20th, 2009 - Current

***First Roman Catholic President, attempted assassination by Lee Harvey Oswald damaged President Kennedy's mind. This effectively incapacitated Kennedy, making for the time Johnson an acting president.

**Resigned after the growing worry over his cancer and that it could down the road impede his work as President. One accomplishment of his Presidency was the end of the Vietnam War with the Paris peace agreement.

***First African American President, forced into sending troops to halt Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, barley avoided drawing US back into Vietnam.

*Won a close victory in 1976 over Henry Jackson, suffered a massive stroke in 1979 brought on by the stresses of the presidency.

*Like his '76 opponent, Jackson succumbed to health problems during his presidency and passed on.

***First Jewish American President, lifted the American economy out of it's slump of the 90's with his "Rudmanomics" economic policies.

*Killed in the 9/11 attacks orchestrated by Neo-Baathist terrorists.
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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2010, 11:08:24 PM »

The Little Hero from Little Dixie
37. Richard M. Nixon (R-NY) January 20th, 1969 - March 16th, 1974***
Acting. Carl B. Albert (D-OK) March 16th, 1974 - May 23rd, 1974***
38. Gerald R. Ford, Jr. (R-MI) May 23rd, 1974 - January 20th, 1977***
39. James "Jimmy" E. Carter, Jr. (D-GA) January 20th, 1977 - January 20th, 1981
40. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1981 - March 30th, 1981**
41. Philip "Phil" M. Crane (R-IL) March 30th, 1981 - January 20th, 1985
42. Gary Hart (D-CO) January 20th, 1985 - September 13th, 1987***
43. Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr. (D-TX) September 13th, 1987 - January 20th, 1993
44. Carroll A. Campbell, Jr. (R-SC) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 2001
45. Paul R. Krugman (D-MA) January 20th, 2001 - September 11th, 2001**
46. D. Ann W. Richards (D-TX) September 11th, 2001 - January 20th, 2005*
47. Richard C.A. Holbrooke (D-NY) January 20th, 2005 - January 20th, 2009
48. J.C. Watts, Jr. (R-OK) January 20th, 2009 - Current*


***Attempting to push John Connally's name through Congress failed in January 1974. The Watergate scandal hit harder than thought and Congress held up Gerald Ford's nomination in a "hostage negotiation" about the President's involvement in the issue. Nixon wouldn't face this and decided to resign the office of the presidency, causing a constitutional crisis.

***Albert was a calm, short, unsuspecting man to be crowned "The Little Hero". It was Albert's actions during the constitutional crisis if another political party could succeed the presidency of the opposite political party. Many pointed that Treasury Secretary Schultz should succeed Nixon, but Schultz would not have it and resigned. This ended the debate and led to Ford's confirmation. Albert in response, resigned.

***Ford succeeded Albert to become the 38th President of the United States. Ford's term was similar to OTL's, with only the major change of a Vice President George H.W. Bush. In a close race, Ford would loose to outsider Jimmy Carter.

**While visiting the Washington Hotel Hilton for a luncheon address to the AFL-CIO, Bush is shot and killed by deranged John Hinckley. Hinckley will tell the police that the murder of Bush was to "impress" Jodie Foster.

***During 1987, allegations surfaced that Hart had been "monkeying around". Facts began to appear, Donna Rice, Hart's private yacht the Monkey Business and statements from Rice herself. "Ricegate" hit Hart hard, his approvals and hope for reelection was falling. After months of a zoo like fervor, Hart resigned the presidency. "Ricegate" would also have an impact with the Republicans, who nominated Pat Robertson, who lost the election after a serious of large stumbles.

**First Jewish President, while visiting Florida to talk about education. There, Krugman met several "interviewers" for a poolside interview. The interviewers then whipped guns out and killed Krugman, being killed in the process. The assassins were connected to Al-Qaeda and the "War of Presidential Justice" began.

*First Female President, chose not to run for reelection because she had been diagnosed with esophageal cancer. She would die later in 2006.

*First African American President, elected on a mandate of change in a relatively pro democratic year. Only the nomination of Defense Secretary Miller and the end of major hostilities in Afghanistan in 2007 pushed people to want something new for a new decade. For now, Watts is ruling over a nation with a booming economy and peacetime, but stormclouds are gathering on the Korean peninsula.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2010, 12:30:22 AM »

A Double Tragedy
POD: Johnson is assassinated a day after Kennedy by secret service agent Gerald Blaine.

35. John "Jack" F. Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1961 - November 22nd, 1963**
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) November 22nd, 1963 - November 23rd, 1963**
Acting. John W. McCormack (D-MA) November 23rd, 1963 - January 20th, 1965***
37. John W. McCormack (D-MA) January 20th, 1965 - January 20th, 1969
38. J. Terry Sanford (D-NC) January 20th, 1969 - March 29th, 1972**
39. Robert "Bobby" F. Kennedy (D-MA) March 29th, 1972 - January 20th, 1973
40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) January 20th, 1973 - January 20th, 1981*
41. Robert "Bobby" F. Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1981 - March 30th, 1981**
42. Dale L. Bumpers (D-AR) March 30th, 1981 - January 20th, 1989*
43. Ronald "Ron" E. Paul (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993*
44. Samuel "Sam" A. Nunn, Jr. (D-GA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 2001
45. John R. Kasich (R-OH) January 20th, 2001 - November 4th, 2001**
46. Jane Dee Hull (R-AZ) November 4th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009***
47. Lynda Bird Johnson Hamilton (D-CA) January 20th, 2009 - Current Date*

**Assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas.

**Assassinated by accident by secret service agent Gerald Blaine.

***First Speaker to ascend to the Presidency. Constitutional haggling made McCormack a "Acting President" from '63-'65.

**Assassinated by Arthur Bremer on a campaign trip in Wisconsin.

*First Republican in 12 years. Remembered for "Reaganomics", economic recession of late 70's and bloody quagmire in Iran.

**Became the first non consecutive President since Grover Cleveland. Assassinated by John Hinckley, Jr.

*Elected in close election, remembered for economic recession and inaction to Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and slaughter of Kurds and Kuwaiti's.

**Assassinated on the 22nd anniversary of the Tehran hostage crisis by the Iranian arm of Al-Qaeda and the their leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

***First Female President, led the War on Islamic Fundamentalism and the wars in Iran and Afghanistan. Won a disputed election in 2004 and governed over the economic downturn in 2007.

*A political darkhorse for the Democratic nomination, Johnson Hamilton won upsets and secured the nomination. Was criticized for the VP choice of Ron Reagan. Beat young VP Watts for the Presidency.
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