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« on: July 27, 2009, 10:49:18 AM »

34) Thomas Dewey/Earl Warren (R-NY) 1949-1953*
35) Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon (R-TX) 1953-1965*
36) Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-CA) 1965-1972**
37) Henry Cabot Lodge Jr./George Romney (R-MA) 1972-1977*
38) John Kennedy/George Wallace (D-MA) 1977-1981***
39) Ronald Reagan/George H. W. Bush (R-CA) 1981-1989*
40) George H. W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld (R-TX) 1989-1997*
41) George W. Bush/Richard Cheney 1997-2001|John McCain 2001-2009 (R-TX)****
42) Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty 2009-Current

*Refused to run again for the nomination
**Assasinated while campaigning in Philadelphia
***Narrowly defeated in his reelection bid
****Richard Cheney was assasinated while being evacuated from the White House during the terrorist attacks in Washington D.C. Bush declined renomination in 2008



Hackish, to say the least.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 02:59:00 PM »

No Watergate

1969- 1977: Richard Nixon
1977- 1981: John Connally

1981- 1984: Henry "Scoop" Jackson
1984- 1993: Reubin Askew

1993- 2001: Howard Baker
2001- 2005: John McCain

2005- 2009: John Kerry
2009-         : Rudy Giuliani
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 07:05:57 AM »

No Watergate

1969- 1977: Richard Nixon
1977- 1981: John Connally

1981- 1984: Henry "Scoop" Jackson
1984- 1993: Reubin Askew

1993- 2001: Howard Baker
2001- 2005: John McCain

2005- 2009: John Kerry
2009-         : Rudy Giuliani

Out of curiosity, why doesn't Jackson run for re-election? Or did you have him die in '84?

Jackson dies of a heart attack as IOTL.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 11:29:28 AM »

So would the Rep. of Texas use a Popular Vote system for its elections?
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 12:31:00 PM »

Ok here is my new list for a possible "The Republic of Texas" Survives to the Present Day TL after im done with my Ronnie in '68 TL. I must admit I was reaching toward the end, cuz I belive butterflies would have radically different political figures who wern't even born IOTL be President.

The Eyes of Texas are upon You…

1. Samuel “Sam” Houston (I-Huntsville): October 22nd 1836-December 10th 1838
2. Mirabeau B. Lamar: (I-Laredo): December 10th 1838- December 13th 1841
3. Samuel “Sam” Houston: (I-Huntsville): December 13th 1841-December 9th 1844

4. Barnard E. Bee Sr.(N-Houston): December 9th 1844-December 9th 1847
5. Mirabeau B. Lamar (N-Laredo) December 9th 1847-December 9th 1850
6. Abner S. Lipscomb (N-Brenham): December 9th 1850-December 9th 1853

7. Thomas J. Rusk (H-Nacogdoches): December 9th 1853-December 9th 1856
8. Hardin R. Richards (N-Bowie County): December 9th 1856-December 9th 1859
9. Elisha M. Pease (H-Lampsas): December 9th 1859-December 9th 1862
10. Louis T. Wigfall (N-Galveston: December 9th 1862-December 9th 1865
11. Elisha M. Pease (H-Lampsas): December 9th 1865-December 9th 1868
12. Andrew J. Hamilton (H-Austin): December 9th 1868-December 9th 1871
13. Edmund J. Davis (H-Austin): December 9th 1871-December 9th 1874

14. Hamilton P. Bee (N-San Antonio): December 9th 1874-December 9th 1877
15. Richard Coke (N-Waco): December 9th 1877-December 9th 1880
16. Richard B. Hubbard Jr. (N-Tyler): December 9th 1880-December 9th 1883
17. Richard Coke (N-Waco): December 9th 1883-December 9th 1886
18. Lawrence S. “Sul” Ross (N-Brazos.): December 9th 1886-December 9th 1889
19. John Ireland (N-Seguin): December 9th 1889-December 9th 1891
20. Lawrence S. “Sul” Ross (N-Brazos): December 9th 1891-December 9th 1894

21. James S. “Big Jim” Hogg (P-Houston): December 9th 1894-December 9th 1897
22. Charles A. Culberson (P-Dallas): December 9th 1897-December 9th 1900

23. Joseph D. Sayers (N-Austin): December 9th 1900-December 9th 1903
24. James S. “Big Jim” Hogg (P-Houston): December 9th 1903-March 3 1906*
25. Roger Q. Mills (P-Corsicana): March 3rd-December 9th 1906
26. Thomas M. Campbell (P-Longview): December 9th 1906-December 9th 1909
27. Andrew J. Houston (P-Independence): December 9th 1909-December 9th 1912

28. Oscar B. Colquitt (N-Daingerfield): December 9th 1912-December 9th 1915
29. John Morris Shepard (N-Texarkana): December 9th 1915-December 9th 1918
30. William P. Hobby (N-Houston): December 9th 1918-December 9th 1921

31. James E. “Pa” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1921-December 9th 1924
32. Miriam A. “Ma” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1924-December 9th 1927**
33. James E. “Pa” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1927-December 9th 1930
34. John N. Garner (P-Uvalde): December 9th 1930-December 9th 1933

35. Sam Rayburn (N-Bonham): December 9th 1933-December 9th 1936
36. James V. Alfred (N-Corpus Christi): December 9th 1936-December 9th 1939
37. Sam Rayburn (N-Bonham): December 9th 1939-December 9th 1941
38. Thomas T. “Tom” Connally (N-Waco): December 9th 1941-December 9th 1944
39. James V. Alfred (N-Corpus Christi): December 9th 1944-December 9th 1947
40. Thomas T. “Tom” Connally (N-Waco): December 9th 1947-December 9th 1950

41. Wilbert L. “Pappy” O’Daniel (P-Dallas): December 9th 1950-December 9th 1953
42. Coke R. Stevenson (P-San Angelo): December 9th 1953-December 9th 1956
43. Allen Shivers (P-Austin): December 9th 1956-December 9th 1959
44. Marion P. Daniel Sr.(P-Liberty): December 9th 1959-December 9th 1962

45. Lyndon B. Johnson (N-Stonewall): December 9th 1962-December 9th 1965
46. Ralph W. Yarborugh (N-Austin): December 9th 1965-December 9th 1968

47. John Tower (P-Houston): December 9th 1968-December 9th 1971
48. John Connally (P-Houston): December 9th 1971-December 9th 1974

49. Lloyd M. Bentsen (N-Houston): December 9th 1974-December 9th 1977
50. Dolph Briscoe (P-Uvalde): December 9th 1977-December 9th 1980
51. Lloyd M. Bentsen: (N-Houston): December 9th 1980-December 9th 1983
52. George T. Leland: (N-Houston): December 9th 1983-December 9th 1986**
53. Eligio de la Garza (N-Mercedes): December 9th 1986-December 9th 1989**
54. Ann Richards (N-Austin): December 9th 1989-December 9th 1992**

55. Robert D. “Bob” Bullock (P-Austin): December 9th 1992-December 9th 1995
56. Ross Perot (I-Texarkana): December 9th 1995-December 9th 1998
57. James R. “Rick” Perry (P-Austin): December 9th 1998-December 9th 2001
58. Ron E. Paul (P-Lake Jackson): December 9th 2001-December 9th 2004
59. James R. “Rick” Perry (P-Austin): December 9th 2004-December 9th 2007

60. Richard S. “Kinky” Friedman (N-Medina) December 9th 2007-???**

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24. Died in office due to a Railroad accident.
32. First Female President
52. First African-Texan President
53. First Tejano President
54. Second Female President
60. First Jewish-Texan President.

N: Stands for the Nationalist Party, established in 1843 by Lamar, representing the anti-annexation, pro-slavery and pro-expansion political wing. Essentially the same as OTL Democrats, until the Great Depression and Dust Bowl which enabled them to become the big government and was able to pull away significant minority votes. The Nationalists in 2009 are a left to center party where the strong holds are border towns and the big urban areas.

H: Stood for the Houstonian Party, After Henry Clay’s victory in 1844(POD), The Pro Annexation wing that supported the nation’s 1st President eventually coalesced into the namesake party. Essentially the same as OTL 19th Century, the Houstonians wanted friendly relations with Native Americans, Abolitionists and generally Ameriphile. They also kept Texas neutral during the War of Secession, but were unable to win an election against Coke’s new Nationalist Party.

P: Populist Party, after the dissolution of the Houstonian Party in the 1890’s, many of the Pro-Farm faction of the party were caught up in the growing Populist movement in the US. The Party from the 1890’s to arguably the 1960’s, the party was a fiscally conservative, Pro-Farm, Pro Civil Rights for blacks that capitalized on the Progressive era of the early 1900’s. After the New Age policies of the Nation lists under Rayburn, the Populists shifted to the Center to Right Party it is today

Two Term POTROT’s: Sam Houston, Mireabeau Lamar, Elisha M. Pease, Richard Coke, Sul Ross, Big Jim Hogg, Pa Ferguson, Sam Rayburn, John V. Alfred, Tom Connally, and Rick Perry.

So would Texas use a popular vote system for elections?
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2009, 10:49:51 PM »

Ok, Im running out of ideas for lists, but I stumbled upon one researching about Henry Ford. This is based on the pod that Ford wins the 1918 Michigan Senatorial Race against Newberry. He is chosen as the comprimise candidate during the 1924 US Presidential election. He wins a narrow victory, largely due to LaFollete's split of the GOP vote.

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30. John Calvin Coolidge Jr. (R-MA): August 2nd 1923-March 4th 1925
31. Henry Ford (D-MI): March 4th 1925-March 4th 1933
32. William F. Lemke (R-ND): March 4th 1933-March 4th 1941
33. William F. “Frank” Knox (R-IL): March 4th 1941-April 28th 1944*
34. Henry Styles Bridges (R-NH): April 28th 1944-January 20th 1953

35. Charles W. Sawyer (D-OH): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
36. James P. Mitchell (R-NJ): January 20th 1961-October 19th 1963*
37. William F. Knowland (R-CA): October 19th 1963-January 20th 1969

38. Henry “Hank” Ford II (D-MI): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
39. Charles M. “Mac” Mathias Jr. (R-MD): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
40. Ernest F. “Fritz” Hollings (D-SC): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
41. Edward I. “Ed” Koch (D-NY): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993

42. Pierre S. “Pete” du Pont IV (R-DE): January 20th -1993-January 20th 2001
43. Zell B. Miller (D-GA): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009
44. Francis “Hill” Harper (R-IA): January 20th 2009-???***

Notes

33. Died in office due to a massive heart attack.
36. Died in office due to congestive hear failure.
44. First African American President.


Interesting... I didn't know Ford was a Democrat.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 04:13:23 PM »

POD: Ford is down

38th: Gerald R. Ford (R-MI), August 9, 1974 - September 22, 1975
39th: Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY), September 22, 1975 - January 26, 1979
40th: Phillip M. Crane (R-IL), January 26, 1979 - January 20, 1981
41st: Edmund G. Brown (D-CA), January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989
42nd: Howard H. Baker (R-TN), January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1997
43rd: Joseph R. Biden (D-DE), January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2005
44th: A. Lamar Alexander (R-TN), January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
45th: Russell D. Feingold (D-WI), January 20, 2009 - present[/color
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38th: Assassinated
39th: Died in office
40th: Succeeded, defeated for reelection
44th: Defeated for reelection after outbreak of world depression
45th: Incumbent, first Jewish-American President


POD: Kerry wins in 2004

44th: John F. Kerry (D-MA), January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
45th: John S. McCain (R-AZ), January 20, 2009 - July 3, 2011
46th: Haley R. Barbour (R-MS), July 3, 2011 - January 20, 2013
47th: Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin (D-SD), January 20, 2013

44th: Although generally succesfull in foreign policy, Kerry's prospects for reelection were destroyed followin recession outbreak
45th: Died in office due to cancer remmission
46th: Succeeded, defeated
47th: Elected Governor of South Dakota in 2010. Youngest President and first female President 

Except for Biden, that is my dream list.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2009, 05:37:11 PM »

RFK Lives

37. Robert F. Kennedy (Democrat - New York) 1969-1977

And I was criticized for too many Democratic terms

Tongue I actually think this would have happened. It's not very different from real life, I just party switched all the presidents from 1968 onward.

4 Democratic consensutive terms?

Given RFK's popularity I'm certain he would have narrowly won 1968 in the house, and then had a victory in 1972, but not a landslide.

Its acceptable to think that RFK could have won the Democrats 4 Consecutive Terms, albeit very narrowly, but still victories, but not Walty Mondale or Governor Moonbeam.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2009, 03:20:52 PM »

The Rise of Old South (again)

37th: Richard M. Nixon (R-CA), January 20, 1969 - September 7, 1973

President Nixon resigned earlier from office

38th: Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD), September 7, 1973 - October 10, 1973

The second-briefest Presidency after W. H. Harrison so far. Vice President Agnew, already under an investigation, succeesed Nixon and month later himself was forced to go

39th: Carl B. Albert (D-OK), October 10, 1973 - October 15, 1973

And that was the briefest Presidency ever. Speaker Albert, due to lack of Vice President, succeesed Agnew, but before nomination (not to mention confirming) his V.P., he was intented to resign for as soon as he could, he fall down the stairs in the White House while heavily intoxinated and broken his neck. RIP.

40th: James O. Eastland (D-MS), October 15, 1973 - March 12, 1974

First President pro tempore of the Senate to assume the highest office via succession. An unrepeatent segregationist and racist, Eastland quickly tried to reverse everything done on civil rights field in last decade and pissed both Democrats and Republicans alike. In March 1974 he was officially kicked out the party

40th: James O. Eastland (I-MS), March 12, 1974 - October 2, 1974

After making another smilliar steps, President Eastland has been impeached and resigned minutes before the vote in Senate was to begun

41st: Thomas P. O'Neill (D-MA), October 2, 1974 - June 3, 1975

Speaker of the House, who assumed the Presidency as Congress did not confirmed Eastland choices for V.P. However, crisis was so deep that after little over half of a year in office, O'Neill was outsed by the military coup

42nd: Alexander M. Haig (M-PA), June 3, 1975 - January 20, 1981

General Haig, a leader of the military coup became the first authoritarian President in history

43rd: Richard B. Cheney (M-WY), January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989

Although never served in a military, Cheney was Haig right-hand man, awarded by a rank of General. He thus became the second military President.

44th: Donald H. Rumsfeld (M-IL), January 20, 1989 - May 6, 1992

Another politician-turned-general. Overthroved by a blodless coup of civilian forces and some army elements.

Did Eastland commit some sort of Scandal? Because you can't be impeached just because your an unrepentant racist.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 04:56:12 PM »

Ok, Im not sure how many AH.comer's we have on this board, but one of the most popular timelines this year was an unfinished timeline by Statachios called A World of Laughter, A World of Tears...based on the pod that Walt Disney himself, is given the Republican Nomination in 1952 and the onsoing dystopia that he ends up creating. This my homage to the timeline, as I postulate it would turn out if stat had continued up untill the Present Day...You can read the timeline here: http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=113866

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A World of Laughter, A World of Tears

33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1953
34. Walter E. “Walt” Disney (R-CA): January 20th 1953-December 15th 1959*
35. Everett M. Dirksen (R-IL): December 15th 1959-January 20th 1961

36. Herman E. Talmadge (D-GA): January 20th 1961-November 22nd 1963*
37. Richard J. Daley (D-IL): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969**

38. George L. Rockwell (R-VA): January 20th 1969-August 25th 1972*
39. George S. Romney (R-MI): August 25th 1972-January 20th 1977**

40. Henry M. “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA): January 20th 1977-September 1st 1983*
41. Anita J. Bryant (D-FL): September 1st 1983-January 20th 1989**

42. John C. “Jack” Danforth (R-MO): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997
43. Thomas H. “Tom” Kean (R-NJ): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2001

44. Richard M. Daley (D-IL): January 20th 2001-July 16th 2005*
45. James E. Folsom Jr. (D-GA): July 16th 2005-January 20th 2009

46. Clarence Thomas (R-MO): January 20th 2009-???**

Notes

34. Died in office due to complications of Lung Cancer.
36. Assassinated by a group of Nation of Islam terrorists in New York City.
37. First Irish-American President
38. Assassinated by John Patler in Arlington, Virginia
39. First Mormon President
40. Died in office due to an aortic aneurysm.
41. First Female President
44. Assassinated in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania via Islamic Fundamentalist car bomb Attack.
46. First African-American President.


Ick, I have never seen so many assholes as President.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2009, 10:35:55 PM »

43. George W. Bush (R) / Dick Cheney (R) : 2001-2009 *
44. Barack Obama (D) / Joe Biden (D) : 2009-2013 *
45. Sarah Palin (C) / Bobby Jindal (C) : 2013-2025*
46. Chelsea Clinton (L) / Galvin Newsom (L) : 2025-2031*



43. Last GOP President
44. Last Democrat President
45. First Conservative Party President, First Female President, First Hindu-turned-Catholic
46. First Liberal Party President

The US Constitution limits a President to two terms.

not 4 Sarah Palin, u stupid librul. Purple heart palin 4 eva

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2009, 05:04:04 PM »

Conservatism stays Democratic

29. Warren Harding (R-OH) / Herbert Hoover (R-KS) : 1921-1925 *
30. Robert M. La Follette, Sr. (R-WI) / Burton Wheeler (R-MT) : 1925-1933

31. Calvin Coolidge (D-MD) / Elmer Thomas (D-OK) : 1933-1941
32. Elmer Thomas (D-OK) / Millard Tydings (D-MD) : 1941-1945 *
33. Millard Tydings (D-MD) / Dwight Eisenhower (D-KS) : 1945-1953
34. Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Lyndon Johnson (R-NE) : 1953-1955 **
35. Lyndon Johnson (R-NE) / James Glenn Beall (R-MD) : 1955-1965 *
36. John S. McCain Junior (D-CA) / Al Gore Senior (D-TN) : 1965-1971**
37. Al Gore Senior (D-TN) / Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) : 1971-1977
38. Jimmy Carter (R-GA) / Hubert Humphrey (R-MN) : 1977-1981
39. Ronald Reagan (D-CA) / Jack Kemp (D-NY) : 1981-1989
40. Jack Kemp (D-NY) / Chic Hecht (D-NV) : 1989-1993
41. Ted Kennedy (R-NY) / John Kerry (R-MA) : 1993-2001
42. Al Gore Junior (D-TN) / George W. Bush (D-TX) : 2001-2009
43. Hillary Rodham Ford (R-NJ) / Barack Obama (R-IL) : 2009-current

29th : Only President to get successfully primaried.
30th : Thomas retires becuase of getting cancer, but the 80% Approval-rating President was intending to run.
34th : Nixon killed in Dallas, Texas by Conservative Wacko
35th : LBJ  passes Civil Rights bills in 1956, Segregation ends in 1957. Term limits created
36th : McCain dies of natural causes

 


I mean, really?
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