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« on: March 13, 2007, 06:29:33 pm »

I'm so disgusted that option 2 had to be an option, thanks to the low life warmongering Allen Boyds.   
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 06:34:06 pm »

Congressional "authorization" is NOT enough, jfern. No conflict should be allowed without a Congressional Declaration of War just like the U.S. Constitution sets forth.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 08:43:52 pm »

yes absolutely. 

(im not saying he should, however)
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 09:11:39 pm »

What do you mean by "attack"?  Do you mean drop a few bombs on some aspirin factories or full-scale ground assault?
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 09:56:51 pm »

yes absolutely. 

(im not saying he should, however)
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 10:31:30 pm »

No. Certainly not. This President lacks the capability to be given a free-hand by Congress to do any thing

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 11:05:37 pm »

No, this applies not only to this President, but to whoever may occupy the Oval Office.  A Declaration of War from Congress is needed and should be required in any administration, not just this one.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2007, 11:24:15 pm »

no

btw, what the hell is an IINO?  Don't make up words-the phrase sounds stupid.  To be independent means you can sometimes take a pro-Bush standpoint, you know.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 01:11:53 am »

No.

And how can you be an independent in name only?
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2007, 01:30:45 am »

And how can you be an independent in name only?

You know... Like MODU...
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2007, 01:53:10 am »

And how can you be an independent in name only?

You know... Like MODU...

he's a conservative-leaning independent but it doesn't mean he's not independent.  He disliked the Republican congress of the 04-06 term.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2007, 07:39:20 am »

yes absolutely. 

(im not saying he should, however)
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If Iran is caught intererring in Iraq while we're still there, and there is evidence that there is, I'm all for wiping out Iran. I'm not for a ground assault, I suggest an air raid over Tehran.

We should have invaded Iran and not Iraq to begin with.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2007, 01:44:29 pm »

yes absolutely. 

(im not saying he should, however)
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If Iran is caught intererring in Iraq while we're still there, and there is evidence that there is, I'm all for wiping out Iran. I'm not for a ground assault, I suggest an air raid over Tehran.

We should have invaded Iran and not Iraq to begin with.

I've said this from the beginning of the war. Iraq is just a stepping stone/platform to launch attacks on Iran when the inevitable comes.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2007, 01:53:35 pm »

No.  Under no circumstance should the president be allowed to attack any country without a declaration of war from Congress.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2007, 03:35:48 pm »

Er, declarations of war can't be made. For the simple reason that the US is a signatory to the UN charter, which prohibits them.
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2007, 03:50:58 pm »

Er, declarations of war can't be made. For the simple reason that the US is a signatory to the UN charter, which prohibits them.

Ask any American if the UN Charter trumps the US Constitution... the REAL Americans will tell you not only "no" but "HELL NO!"
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2007, 04:12:41 pm »

And how can you be an independent in name only?

You know... Like MODU...

he's a conservative-leaning independent but it doesn't mean he's not independent.  He disliked the Republican congress of the 04-06 term.

Lest we forget that I was a reformist too and champion the end of the two dinosaur parties.  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2007, 07:21:39 pm »

Congressional "authorization" is NOT enough, jfern. No conflict should be allowed without a Congressional Declaration of War just like the U.S. Constitution sets forth.

We agree on something! (Unless you're just being sarcastic.)
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2007, 07:10:20 am »

Congressional "authorization" is NOT enough, jfern. No conflict should be allowed without a Congressional Declaration of War just like the U.S. Constitution sets forth.

We agree on something! (Unless you're just being sarcastic.)

No sarcasm. My belief is don't go to war unless you intend to win. Any armed conflict worth pursuing should be backed by a Congressional Declaration of War as called for in the U.S. Constitution. A Congressional War Declaration does several things... clearly identifies the enemy... clearly sets forth the goals (how do you know when you've won otherwise)... allows,  even forces, Congress to thoroughly debate the resolution and decide if the venture is worth the cost and the risk... mobilizes the entire nation for total victory. In view of the foregoing (which we did in World War II) if the conflict isn't woth it, DON'T do it.
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