Papal Conclave - 2007 Info Center

[bullmoose88]

I'm gonna extend the influencing period by a day, as I haven't had a chance to get back to anyone about their PMs yet.

any chance you could move the deadline back a day for memorial day?

say may 29/30 11pm?

[Gustaf]

I'm gonna extend the influencing period by a day, as I haven't had a chance to get back to anyone about their PMs yet.

any chance you could move the deadline back a day for memorial day?

say may 29/30 11pm?

Enough already! Are you pope or dope?

[Gabu]

I coyly abstain

Something isn't coy if you openly announce it as such.

[12th Doctor]

I'm gonna extend the influencing period by a day, as I haven't had a chance to get back to anyone about their PMs yet.

any chance you could move the deadline back a day for memorial day?

say may 29/30 11pm?

Sorry, I missed this.  If you have anything you would like to submit, I would allow you to do so so long as it is before the ballot is over.

[7,052,770]

I coyly abstain

Something isn't coy if you openly announce it as such.

Well it's not like I'm announcing it to the world...I have to say it somewhere though.

[12th Doctor]

I'll have these results out in a bit.  It was a very busy day for me, I was taking a lot of phone calls.

[Gabu]

I'll have these results out in a bit.  It was a very busy day for me, I was taking a lot of phone calls.

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[12th Doctor]

I'll have these results out in a bit.  It was a very busy day for me, I was taking a lot of phone calls.

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Sorry, I'll have them out soon now.  Promise.

[12th Doctor]

Cardinal Antonelli slowly rises.
From Rome to Rio de Janiero, from Palermo to Port au Prince, from Milan to Manila...

...all these famous cities and the populations around them lie in what I must call the Soviet sphere, and all are subject, in one form or another, not only to Soviet influence but to a very high and in some cases increasing measure of control from Moscow.


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Oh, sorry, wring speech. 

[Gustaf]

Soulty, I actually really liked the old format. Is it too much trouble to make or would it be possible to bring it back? It's much easier to compare with the old ballot myself than it is to get an over-view of where the votes are coming from. Again, if it's too much trouble I understand that you won't do it. But I'd appreciate it...

[Gustaf]

  The Results of the 3rd Ballot are as follows
Hume - 9
von Frick - 8
Antonelli - 10
de Andrade - 1
Ribeirio - 6
Cheng - 13
Miller -3
Lumbayo - 12
Santiago - 1
Jergovic - 9
dePalma - 1
Cruijff - 11
Singh - 1


   
Hume ---->   Hume
Ribeiro ---->   Lumbayo
Cheng ---->   Cheng
von Frick ---->   Ribeiro
Miller ---->   Miller
Jergovic ---->   Jergovic
Antonelli ---->   Antonelli
Cruijff ---->   Cruijiff
de Palma ---->     de Palma
Lumbayo ---->   Santiago



Curia   

McCannon ---->   Cruijff
Romano ---->   Cruijff
Hernandez ---->   von Frick
Sepe ---->   Antonelli
Bertone ---->   Cruijff
Adofo ---->   Lumbayo
Shah ---->   Cheng
Wildauer ---->   Cheng


Other Key Cardinals
   
Santiago ---->   Lumbayo
O'Hara ---->   Cruijff
Sherer ---->   Cheng
Tagola ---->   Ribeiro
Medina ---->   de Andrade
Bassman    ---->     Hume
Ramos ---->   Cheng
Montini ---->   Crujiff
Szklar ---->   Jergovic
Rudo ---->   Cruijff


Europeans   

Rezzonico    ----> Antonelli
Lambertini ---->   Antonelli
Altieri ---->   Antonelli
Ganganelli ---->   Jergovic
Braschi ---->   Cruijff
Errigo ---->   Antonelli
Caprelli ---->   Antonelli
Huber ---->   von Frick
Robidzer ---->   von Frick
Schontag ---->   Jergovic
Schuler ---->   Cheng
Reyes ---->   Lumbayo
Diaz ---->                   Ribeiro
Soto ---->                  Cruijff
Cruz ---->                  Hume
Herrera ---->   von Frick
Pascal ---->   von Frick
Boulanger ---->   Cruijff
Alexandre    ---->        Cheng
Gardocki    ---->         Antonelli
Howard ---->   Jergovic
MacMillian ---->   Miller
Papp ---->   Jergovic
Balla ---->    Cheng
Timochenko ---->   Jergovic
Mineric ---->   Jergovic
Adamkus ---->   Jergovic
Kelley ---->   Miller


North America
   
Fitzgibbon ---->   Hume
Latello ---->   Antonelli
Gabler ---->   Hume
Sanchez ---->   Cruijff
Stojeck ---->   Hume
Legrand ---->   Antonelli


Latin America   

da Silva ---->   Ribeiro
Alves ---->   RIbeiro
Lopez ---->   Lumbayo
Garcia ---->   Cheng
Zambrano ---->   Cheng
Ramirez ---->   Lumbayo
Pinera ---->   Cheng
de Arroyo    ---->        Cheng
de Lugo ---->   Lumbayo
Rias ---->                   Lumbayo


Africa   

Tyler ---->                   Cheng
Kobe ---->   Lumbayo
Sauda ---->   Lumbayo
Chike ---->   Lumbayo
M'Fuma ---->   Hume
Zari ---->                   Lumbayo


Asia   

Gayan ---->              Singh
Majboo ---->   Ribeiro
Michiba ---->   Lumbayo
Purnomo ---->   von Frick
Ho ---->                   von Frick
Kulop ---->   von Frick
Lynch ---->   Hume




Did it myself...

[12th Doctor]

Soulty, I actually really liked the old format. Is it too much trouble to make or would it be possible to bring it back? It's much easier to compare with the old ballot myself than it is to get an over-view of where the votes are coming from. Again, if it's too much trouble I understand that you won't do it. But I'd appreciate it...

Okay, I'll go back to that... others have said they prefered it as well.

[12th Doctor]

I'm gonna make one key change in the rules.


I guess I hadn't really thought about what 50-someodd ballots would look like in the grand scheme of things.  So, I am changing the rules so that, if there is no Pope after 20 ballots, then it goes down to a 3/5 majority.  If after 30 ballots there is still no winner, then if decends to 50% + 1.

[J. J.]

could you make that a majority instead of 50% +1?

[12th Doctor]

could you make that a majority instead of 50% +1?

Do you mean a plurality?  Cause a majority is 50% + 1

[J. J.]

could you make that a majority instead of 50% +1?

Do you mean a plurality?  Cause a majority is 50% + 1

No, 59% + 1 is not necessarily a majority.

If there an odd number of votes, 33 for example, a majority 17 in whole numbers (majority means more than half).  Exactly 50% of 33 is 16.5.    50% + 1 of 33 is 17.5 (or 18 in whole numbers).  You'd end up needing a bit more than a majority with 50% + 1.

You might want to check Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority

[12th Doctor]

could you make that a majority instead of 50% +1?

Do you mean a plurality?  Cause a majority is 50% + 1

No, 59% + 1 is not necessarily a majority.

If there an odd number of votes, 33 for example, a majority 17 in whole numbers (majority means more than half).  Exactly 50% of 33 is 16.5.    50% + 1 of 33 is 17.5 (or 18 in whole numbers).  You'd end up needing a bit more than a majority with 50% + 1.

You might want to check Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority

Well, in this case, we are playing with an even number... but okay... a majority.

[J. J.]

could you make that a majority instead of 50% +1?

Do you mean a plurality?  Cause a majority is 50% + 1

No, 59% + 1 is not necessarily a majority.

If there an odd number of votes, 33 for example, a majority 17 in whole numbers (majority means more than half).  Exactly 50% of 33 is 16.5.    50% + 1 of 33 is 17.5 (or 18 in whole numbers).  You'd end up needing a bit more than a majority with 50% + 1.

You might want to check Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority

Well, in this case, we are playing with an even number... but okay... a majority.

Some might not vote, however.

[12th Doctor]

could you make that a majority instead of 50% +1?

Do you mean a plurality?  Cause a majority is 50% + 1

No, 59% + 1 is not necessarily a majority.

If there an odd number of votes, 33 for example, a majority 17 in whole numbers (majority means more than half).  Exactly 50% of 33 is 16.5.    50% + 1 of 33 is 17.5 (or 18 in whole numbers).  You'd end up needing a bit more than a majority with 50% + 1.

You might want to check Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority

Well, in this case, we are playing with an even number... but okay... a majority.

Some might not vote, however.

yeah, you have a point

[12th Doctor]

Wow... sorry, I forgot to set a timetable for this ballot... it will end at 11pm on Tuesday

[12th Doctor]

I won't have the results for you until at least Thursday, but likely Friday or Saturday.  I'm heading home and will be without the spread sheet.  Sorry guys.

[12th Doctor]

I'll have results out tomorrow fellas. I am acctually kinda stalling until more people come back, and there is a good reason for this, trust me.

[ilikeverin]

I hope you counted my vote for myself

[12th Doctor]

I hope you counted my vote for myself

Sniffle... sorry guys, once again I have failed you... but I had a date. 

[12th Doctor]

Oy...  I promise I have not forgotten this, fellas... I'm just very busy reorganizing my life right now.  Trying to move my sh**t back to Central PA, find a job, etc etc