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« on: May 01, 2007, 06:16:14 PM »

joe manchin, obviously.
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2007, 06:17:30 PM »

John Kerry
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2007, 06:18:42 PM »


He would be a smart choice.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2007, 06:21:38 PM »


the only problem is he is pro-life.  he should start 'modifying' his position asap.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2007, 06:43:01 PM »

Bill Nelson- from a battleground, plus, he'd actually make Dodd seem less boring.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2007, 06:44:21 PM »

Dodd/Richardson
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2007, 10:21:33 AM »


uh no.
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2007, 11:23:21 AM »

He won't be in the race long enough to consider VP's
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2007, 11:51:55 AM »

He won't be in the race long enough to consider VP's
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2007, 12:33:26 PM »


yes, because conventional wisdom is always right.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2007, 12:46:29 PM »


yes, because conventional wisdom is always right.

Conventional wisdom said Casey would win.
Conventional wisdom said Blackwell would be crushed.
Conventional wisdom said Patrick would win in a walk.
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2007, 12:54:55 PM »


yes, because conventional wisdom is always right.

Conventional wisdom said Casey would win.
Conventional wisdom said Blackwell would be crushed.
Conventional wisdom said Patrick would win in a walk.

is dodd in any worse shape than john kerry was in in may 2003?  no.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2007, 01:22:27 PM »


yes, because conventional wisdom is always right.

Conventional wisdom said Casey would win.
Conventional wisdom said Blackwell would be crushed.
Conventional wisdom said Patrick would win in a walk.

is dodd in any worse shape than john kerry was in in may 2003?  no.

Actually he is.  I was a Kerry supporter from the beginning and never wavered.  I remember going to meet ups which consisted of 6 people in Pittsburgh.  But Kerry was always the "insider's choice".  And the only major competition he had to really knock off was Dean.  And Dean had never run a major campaign (just little ones in Vermont).

Dodd has 3 major opponents in Clinton, Obama, and Edwards.  He isn't the "insider's choice" (that is Richardson or Biden).  He's dead in the water.  No paddle.  Dennis "the Lawn Gnome" Kucinich may do better than him.
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2007, 09:13:56 PM »


yes, because conventional wisdom is always right.

Conventional wisdom said Casey would win.
Conventional wisdom said Blackwell would be crushed.
Conventional wisdom said Patrick would win in a walk.

is dodd in any worse shape than john kerry was in in may 2003?  no.

Kerry was the original frontrunner. Dean stole his momentum near the end of 2003 and in early 2004. You could actually compare Dodd to Dean at this point, but Dean had an issue and lots of ways to generate excitement about him. Dodd doesn't.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2007, 09:34:40 PM »
« Edited: May 02, 2007, 09:36:54 PM by © Boss Tweed »


yes, because conventional wisdom is always right.

Conventional wisdom said Casey would win.
Conventional wisdom said Blackwell would be crushed.
Conventional wisdom said Patrick would win in a walk.

is dodd in any worse shape than john kerry was in in may 2003?  no.

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Meaning, Kerry wasn't in a 20 million dollar hole to the frontrunners (presuming there were any) in May 2003.  Dodd has no chance.
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2007, 10:15:34 PM »


yes, because conventional wisdom is always right.

Conventional wisdom said Casey would win.
Conventional wisdom said Blackwell would be crushed.
Conventional wisdom said Patrick would win in a walk.

is dodd in any worse shape than john kerry was in in may 2003?  no.

Actually he is.  I was a Kerry supporter from the beginning and never wavered.  I remember going to meet ups which consisted of 6 people in Pittsburgh.  But Kerry was always the "insider's choice".  And the only major competition he had to really knock off was Dean.  And Dean had never run a major campaign (just little ones in Vermont).


Very similar to my thoughts. I remember two weeks before Iowa going to Nashville's Kerry HQ to make calls. Often, I was the only one there. Three weeks later, it was bustling with activity.
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2007, 08:16:59 AM »

i dont understand why you liberals are so hostile to dodd.  he has been fighting for oyur issues in the congress for 30 years.

you all have been won over by a man full of platitudes.  it's funny, really.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2007, 08:28:37 AM »

i dont understand why you liberals are so hostile to dodd.  he has been fighting for oyur issues in the congress for 30 years.

you all have been won over by a man full of platitudes.  it's funny, really.

I'm not hostile to Dodd, I'm just realistic about his chances.  I'm also realistic about Gravel's chances.  I was realistic about Vilsack's chances.  At the end of the day I still think Hillary will get the nom.  I don't think she would be the best candidate, but I think she will get the nom.  I said it back in 2004.  The only way the GOP could prevent a Hillary Presidency was by electing John Kerry.
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2007, 03:08:51 PM »

Dodd's VP? Mike Gravel, duh.
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2007, 03:29:23 PM »
« Edited: May 03, 2007, 03:32:29 PM by Verily »

Dodd would choose someone young, someone not from another overwhelmingly Democratic state, and probably a minority or woman given the competition in the primary. Successful minority politicians are few and far between outside of the heavily Democratic states, so Dodd would probably go with a woman.

Edwards isn't a minority or a woman, but he's young and from a Republican state. OTOH, he's already been a VP candidate.

Napolitano is young for a VP candidate, and she is a woman and from a Republican state that could theoretically be flipped. She fits well with Dodd's message of being "a safe pair of hands".

Richardson isn't young, but he's a minority and from a very marginal state. Ditto with Napolitano on being a safe pair of hands.

Klobuchar is relatively young and inexperienced, but she's a woman from a weakly Democratic state, and her inexperience wouldn't hurt the almost overexperienced Dodd.

Shaheen is a woman from a weakly Democratic state with more experience than Klobuchar but still a message of relative youthfulness. She's also a former Governor, which would be a better match for a Senator than another Senator like Klobuchar. Disadvantage is she's from the Northeast.

Other women worth looking at include Christine Gregoire (not popular enough at home), Mary Landrieu (but it would surrender a Senate seat), Kathleen Sebelius (unlikely to accept and more useful to the Democrats in Kansas), and Jennifer Granholm (possible Constitutional issues with her candidacy).
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2007, 06:23:02 PM »

Dodd would choose someone young, someone not from another overwhelmingly Democratic state, and probably a minority or woman given the competition in the primary. Successful minority politicians are few and far between outside of the heavily Democratic states, so Dodd would probably go with a woman.

Edwards isn't a minority or a woman, but he's young and from a Republican state. OTOH, he's already been a VP candidate.

Napolitano is young for a VP candidate, and she is a woman and from a Republican state that could theoretically be flipped. She fits well with Dodd's message of being "a safe pair of hands".

Richardson isn't young, but he's a minority and from a very marginal state. Ditto with Napolitano on being a safe pair of hands.

Klobuchar is relatively young and inexperienced, but she's a woman from a weakly Democratic state, and her inexperience wouldn't hurt the almost overexperienced Dodd.

Shaheen is a woman from a weakly Democratic state with more experience than Klobuchar but still a message of relative youthfulness. She's also a former Governor, which would be a better match for a Senator than another Senator like Klobuchar. Disadvantage is she's from the Northeast.

Other women worth looking at include Christine Gregoire (not popular enough at home), Mary Landrieu (but it would surrender a Senate seat), Kathleen Sebelius (unlikely to accept and more useful to the Democrats in Kansas), and Jennifer Granholm (possible Constitutional issues with her candidacy).

good list.

amy klobuchar sounds like a nice pick.  she is relatively moderate.
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