CO: Bob Schaffer announces Senate run

[Keystone Phil]

Udall vs Schaffer is going to be an epic fight

Are you being sarcastic? I really think there is about an 80% chance of Udall winning against Schaffer.

[Keystone Phil]

Udall vs Schaffer is going to be an epic fight

Are you being sarcastic? I really think there is about an 80% chance of Udall winning against Schaffer.

Are you really a Republican?  Or is this schadenfreude for you, pure and simple?  Because your own state is irrevocably blue do you gloat in the demise of red states?

Do me a favor...ask anyone on this forum if Keystone Phil is really a Republican. Ask anyone. No one can call me a RINO so do me a favor and get to know this forum a little better before you say stupid stuff.

By the way, kid, my state isn't solid Dem so get a clue on that as well.

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Schaffer is a weak candidate and Udall is a powerhouse. I'm not a "self hating Republican" because I can recognize the obvious.

And let me let you in on a little secret...saying there is an 80% chance of Udall winning doesn't mean I think he will win with 80% of the vote if that is what you are assuming I am saying.

Ultimately, I hope I am wrong. I hope I have to look like a complete ass when it comes to this prediction when all is said and done in 2008 because I want to keep the seat. Don't think that I am rooting for the Dems to pick up Colorado.

[Keystone Phil]

"Powerhouse?"  Udall, a powerhouse???  Why do you say that?  He's a lifetime congressman from the state's most liberal district?  That's like rolling out the representative from inner-city Philly or something and putting him up against the rep. from Scranton.  The Philly guy has to convince the whole state that he's not an uber-liberal lifetime politician.  But the Scranton guy is folksy, relatable, likeable, well-known, conservative, and is not a lifetime politician.  Even in blue Pennsylvania I would give the edge to the Scranton guy.  In Colorado--more conservative than PA--why wouldn't you give Schaffer the edge?

Is Udall not a big name (for good reasons) in Colorado?  

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I guess I'll have to take your word for it. Just because Schaffer has the same name recognition of Udall doesn't mean it is for good reasons.

[Keystone Phil]

Can someone (probably Rawlings) explain Schaffer's successful run for the state Board of Education? I found out about it here - http://www.bobschaffer.org/

When was the race? Did he run representing a specific district? If so, what area?

[Keystone Phil]

Are you really a Republican?  Or is this schadenfreude for you, pure and simple?  Because your own state is irrevocably blue do you gloat in the demise of red states?

He's been like that ever since Casey beat Santorum.  No reason to try any more.

Uh, what the hell has been your deal recently with the attacks towards me? I'm calling it as they are. Colorado isn't going our way but I think Louisiana will. How is that me just seeing everything as doom and gloom or not being a Republican?

[Keystone Phil]

Uh, what the hell has been your deal recently with the attacks towards me? I'm calling it as they are. Colorado isn't going our way but I think Louisiana will. How is that me just seeing everything as doom and gloom or not being a Republican?

I did not mean it as an attack, but Rawlings is right.  Hell, you conceded the John Warner seat the other day.

No, I didn't concede it totally but it is probably gone. It looks like he won't be running again and you know the Dems are going to do everything they can to get Mark Warner to run. If he doesn't go for it, we likely have the upper hand but if Governor Kaine runs, we might have a problem hanging on.

Secondly he could also have been talking about Davis's congressional seat.   The chances of the GOP retaining that seat without Davis is slim to nil. 

No, I was talking about the Senate seat. I don't know much about Davis' House seat.

[Keystone Phil]

It's not that you're pessimistic about Republican prospects.  It's that you're pessimistic about Republican prospects after you're the one who swore to everyone to the very end Santorum would win after all.

No, it's really unrelated. I was pessimistic about Colorado ever since Udall got in the race all the way back in 2004-2005.

Indeed, and it doesn't make the "We'll lose Virginia" prediction any more accurate than the "We'll win Pennsylvania" prediction.  It's trading one extreme for the other extreme, and a very depressing ride in the meantime.

The difference being that Santorum had a record of defying the electoral odds. Give me a candidate in Virginia and Colorado that can do the same. Sorry but Schaffer isn't that strong and I don't see anyone like that emerging in Virginia. I would have told you the same thing years ago.

[Keystone Phil]

That's a pretty awful example since Scranton is a solid Dem area. Any Republican elected there would have to be a brilliant politician. Schaffer would be equivalent to someone from those wacky counties in the center of the state.

Actually, PA 10 is not far from Scranton and could be considered the Scranton area. PA 10, as you know, is GOP country.