Redistricting Wales

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The term redistricting is being used as everyone knows what it means and as I'll be doing this more than once (might even try a blatent gerrymander at some point, to see if it's possible).

Anyways, the first map and so on will be for an 80 seat Assembly elected by something along the lines or IRV, AV or etc. All details will be posted here, as will maps and so one when finished.

For this map, I'll be using the UA boundaries, though will combine a few when it's logical to do so (as it often will be).

More soon

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Wales

Seats: 80
Quota: 27,915

Isle of Anglesey

Seats: 2
Quota: 24,915

Gwynedd

Seats: 3
Quota: 30,607

Conwy

Seats: 3
Quota: 29,380

Denbigh & Wrexham

Seats: 6
Quota: 27,157

Flint

Seats: 4
Quota: 28,652

Ceredigion

Seats: 2
Quota: 26,257

Pembrokeshire

Seats: 3
Quota: 29,943

Carmarthenshire

Seats: 5
Quota: 26,693

Swansea

Seats: 6
Quota: 29,349

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Powys problem looming now. Back soon.

[Harry Hayfield]

Well, that's nice to know. 26,000 to get an elected offical. So as Election 2007 gave us:

Plaid 0.58 quota
Lib Dem 0.38 quota

on a first past the post method, does that assume 1 Plaid and 1 Lib Dem?

[minionofmidas]

Wales is mapped fine as is. Please do the non-british parts of the United Kingdom with Welsh-sized constituencies instead.

[afleitch]

Wales is mapped fine as is. Please do the non-british parts of the United Kingdom with Welsh-sized constituencies instead.

What do you mean by non British? Northern Ireland? Or do you mean map the rest of the UK with constituencies of around 55,000?

[minionofmidas]

Wales is mapped fine as is. Please do the non-british parts of the United Kingdom with Welsh-sized constituencies instead.

What do you mean by non British?

Saxon or Gaelic.

[afleitch]

Wales is mapped fine as is. Please do the non-british parts of the United Kingdom with Welsh-sized constituencies instead.

What do you mean by non British?

Saxon or Gaelic.

As a resident of 'Strathclyde' I don't know whether or not to be offended

[minionofmidas]

Wales is mapped fine as is. Please do the non-british parts of the United Kingdom with Welsh-sized constituencies instead.

What do you mean by non British?

Saxon or Gaelic.

As a resident of 'Strathclyde' I don't know whether or not to be offended

Oh yes, a Briton of the North. But only people from Cumberland (ie Welshland) and Dumbartonshire (ie Brits' Rock County) have my personal leave to take offense.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Wales

Seats: 80
Quota: 27,915


Neath-Port Talbot & Powys

Seats: 7
Quota: 29,456

Bridgend

Seats: 4
Quota: 25,384

Rhondda-Cynon-Taff & Merthyr Tydfil

Seats: 8
Quota: 25,660

Vale of Glamorgan

Seats: 3
Quota: 29,549

Cardiff

Seats: 8
Quota: 29,562

Caerphilly & Blaenau Gwent

Seats: 7
Quota: 26,542

Torfaen

Seats: 3
Quota: 23,205

Newport & Monmouth

Seats: 6
Quota: 28,569

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Unless I've miscounted, that's 80 in all. Funny that my anti-Cardiff bias should make things fit isn't it?

[minionofmidas]

Neath-Port Talbot & Powys

Seats: 7
Quota: 29,456

What will that cross-border seat look like, I wonder?

[minionofmidas]

Wales is mapped fine as is. Please do the non-british parts of the United Kingdom with Welsh-sized constituencies instead.

Alright, starting with London. In a new thread. Good ward maps are found at the election commission. Of course I've (in almost all places) no indepth knowledge of local ties.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Neath-Port Talbot & Powys

Seats: 7
Quota: 29,456

What will that cross-border seat look like, I wonder?

Well the core of it would be the Upper Swansea Valley, though I'm not sure how much of Brecon outside the Ystradgynlais area would be in it.

Btw, to show quite how close ties are in that area, a map:



The highlighted ward is in Powys, as are Ystradgynlais and Cwm-twrch. The area south of the name "Gurnos" is in Neath-Port Talbot.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Bump and apologies. Cardiff is just being started.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Cardiff

Seats: 8
Quota: 29,562

Note: all names are to be prefixed with "Cardiff"



1. Bay & Canton

Wards: Butetown, Grangetown, Canton, Riverside
Electorate: 33,886

2. Llandaff

Wards: Llandaff, Fairwater, Ely, Caerau
Electorate: 34,329

3. Callaghan

Wards: Splott, Rumney, Llanrumney, Trowbridge
Electorate: 33,190

4. University

Wards: Cathays, Gabalfa, Heath
Electorate: 28,372

5. Roath

Wards: Adamsdown, Plasnewydd, Penylan
Electorate: 28,672

6. West

Wards: Creigiau/St. Fagans, Llandaff North, Radyr, Pentyrch, Whitchurch & Tongwynlais
Electorate: 28,692

7. North

Wards: Pontprennau/Old St Mellons, Cyncoed, Pentwyn
Electorate: 25,407

8. North West

Wards: Lisvane, Rhiwbina, Llanishen
Electorate: 23,955

Notes, Maps and Justifications coming soon...

[Harry Hayfield]

Cardiff

Seats: 8
Quota: 29,562

Note: all names are to be prefixed with "Cardiff"



1. Bay & Canton

Wards: Butetown, Grangetown, Canton, Riverside
Electorate: 33,886

2. Llandaff

Wards: Llandaff, Fairwater, Ely, Caerau
Electorate: 34,329

3. Callaghan

Wards: Splott, Rumney, Llanrumney, Trowbridge
Electorate: 33,190

4. University

Wards: Cathays, Gabalfa, Heath
Electorate: 28,372

5. Roath

Wards: Adamsdown, Plasnewydd, Penylan
Electorate: 28,672

6. West

Wards: Creigiau/St. Fagans, Llandaff North, Radyr, Pentyrch, Whitchurch & Tongwynlais
Electorate: 28,692

7. North

Wards: Pontprennau/Old St Mellons, Cyncoed, Pentwyn
Electorate: 25,407

8. North West

Wards: Lisvane, Rhiwbina, Llanishen
Electorate: 23,955

Notes, Maps and Justifications coming soon...

Some very interesting names there indeed. Cardiff North West would be a returning seat (last seen during the 1970's), Cardiff University was part of the University seat back in the 1930's and what greater tribute to Cardiff's former PM than for a constituency to bear his name:

"I being the acting returning officer for the Cardiff, Callaghan constituency..."

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Cardiff Bay & Canton

The name says it all really; the division is centered around Cardiff Bay and the Canton area and includes both the Welsh Assembly, Pontcanna (which is where all the Welsh media live) and all them posh flats around the bay. It also includes the one of Britain's oldest Black populations and the most deprived ward in Wales.
This would be, unsurprisingly, a safe Labour seat.

Cardiff, Llandaff

Despite being named for a rather middle class ward (albeit one with something of a trendy-lefty bent), the core of this division are the estates and working class suburbs on the western edge of the city. The division is larger than I'd have liked as the ward boundaries of Cardiff are very unhelpful at times.
This would also be a safe Labour seat.

Cardiff, Callaghan

A traditional working class area, Callaghan is named for the former Prime Minister who represented the area at Westminster from 1945 until 1987. This would be Labour's safest seat in Cardiff.

Cardiff, University

Public-sectordom; the south of the division is dominated by students, while the north is full of people working in the NHS. Methinks this would be a LibDem seat in low turnout elections, probably quite volatile (and prone to high swings) if not. There is a good chance that I am very wrong about that.

Cardiff, Roath

Generally a middle class urban area (dominated by people with professional occupations), but with a few student and working class areas here and there. I think this would be a safe LibDem seat, although there's a slight possibility that it might not be (but slight enough for there to be no need to elaborate).

Cardiff West

I'm not especially pleased with the boundaries of this one, but (once again) the strange shape of some Cardiff wards caused "problems".
This is a fairly homogeneous area; it's dominated by (very) middle class outer-suburbs and commuter villages with a few estates here and there. Despite it's affluence, this seat would normally vote Labour, though by much smaller margins than the three southern divisions.

Cardiff North

Named for the constituency that existed before 1983, not for its geographical location, this is a very diverse division, both politically and demographically, despite being carved out of some of the dullest suburbs in all Wales. A bit of an artificial creation, but an inevitable one. Most likely a Labour/LibDem marginal, but could easily be a nasty three-way electoral pile-up.

Cardiff North West

Cardiff's silly ward boundaries strike again; this district is a few thousand two small and wouldn't be if the people that drew said wards had much understanding of geography.
Also named for a former constituency, this would be a safe Tory seat.

Further Notes

There is a possibility that I might tweak the boundaries at some point; I'm not happy with the size of the Llandaff and North West seats.
Politically, I'm not sure if I've been unusually kind to the LibDems or if I've screwed them utterly...

[afleitch]

'Cardiff Callaghan?'

That's uncharacteristicly sycophantic of you :/ Unless you balance it by naming a chunk of
Caernarfon after Lloyd George.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

'Cardiff Callaghan?'

That's uncharacteristicly sycophantic of you :/

Yes it is, but then again an existing constituency in Wales is named after a person as is (Islwyn). An alternative name would be Cardiff East.
Several other divisions might have personal names in them as well, but none will be named after living people.

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It's possible, but would depend on boundaries and a lack of obvious interesting names.

[afleitch]

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It's possible, but would depend on boundaries and a lack of obvious interesting names.

Well in the interests of balance, a seat named after a prominent Welsh Tory and a member of PC should be kept in mind. FTR, there was a serious proposal to have Glasgow Shettleston (which only really skips around that area anyway) renamed Glasgow Maxton. The reasons for this were less partisan than you'd think; the commission would love to use the name Bridgeton, but that has traditional Protestant connotations for some inexplicable reason, with the 'Catholic' alternative being Calton. Evoking Maxtons ability to unify the area many years ago was proposed as a solution but failed.

If I get round to doing this for Scotland, which as it's the weekend I probably will, i'll see how Glasgow pans out.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Well in the interests of balance, a seat named after a prominent Welsh Tory and a member of PC should be kept in mind.

The obvious Tory would be Wyn Roberts; but he's still alive. I'd been planning to call a rural Carmarthenshire division Gwynfor (perhaps as an alternative name; would depend on the boundaries) anyway, btw.

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Interesting.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Had my third attempt at Pembrokeshire... and failed again. Might try something radical next time (say; crossing the Milford Haven, or linking North Pembroke with Haverfordwest rather than St Davids et al), but I'll probably do somewhere else first.