Downwiththeleft (R) vs. Jamespol (D)

[Joe Biden 2020]

Down, libertarian-leaning northeast-Republican chooses Kevin, a Virginian conservative as his running mate.

Jamespol, a conservative-leaning Democrat from Missouri picks Nym90, a more liberal Democrat from Michigan as his running mate.

Who would you vote for?  Is there a strong third party?

[Smash255]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

[bullmoose88]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

Bingo.

Calling himself "libertarian-leaning" does not hide his conservative views.

[Bacon King]

I'd rather jump off a bridge here, actually.

[Gabu]

I voted for DWTL purely because I know you set this up to get jamespol to win.

[Dr. Cynic]

First thing I'd do is reverse the Democratic ticket. Nym has long been a forum buddy of mine, and I tend to agree with his views more than I would a hardcore right Republican, or an embarrassingly conservative Democrat.

[DownWithTheLeft]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

[Boris]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

[DownWithTheLeft]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

[Gabu]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

Prostitution doesn't?

[DownWithTheLeft]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

Prostitution doesn't?

No b/c it's a one-time or isolated event usually, not something that comes with a certificate

[nclib]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

If one believes (which you probably don't) that men and women and gays and straights are equal, how would gay marriage degrade society and make a mockery? Doesn't marrying and divorcing five times create a bigger mockery? Why should the latter be legal and the former not?

[DownWithTheLeft]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

If one believes (which you probably don't) that men and women and gays and straights are equal, how would gay marriage degrade society and make a mockery? Doesn't marrying and divorcing five times create a bigger mockery? Why should the latter be legal and the former not?

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

[they don't love you like i love you]

Oh yes, Osama bin Laden would be perfectly fine with the US if we simply dropped the campaign to legalize gay marriage.

[2952-0-0]

He would also not have ordered operatives to kill thousands of Americans, if only we had public hangings of gays at Madison Square Garden and forced all Jews to live in reservations in Nevada.

[Sensei]

down is not libertarian leaning.  He is hard right in social views.

I really hold zero conservative social views except for abortion (which there are plently of pro-life libertarians), gay marriage (religious), and support of the Patriot Act.  I more than make up for that with hardcore libertarian positions of opposing a National ID card, legalization of all drugs, legalization of prostitution, abolishment of the FCC, and other issues like that.  To say I'm more conservative than libertarian is absurd.

If you oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, wouldn't it be logical to also oppose the legalization of prostitution on the same grounds?

No, b/c prostitution is something that a person does an individual choice, an also against gay marriage b/c it degrades society and makes a mockery.

If one believes (which you probably don't) that men and women and gays and straights are equal, how would gay marriage degrade society and make a mockery? Doesn't marrying and divorcing five times create a bigger mockery? Why should the latter be legal and the former not?

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Then how do you explain your positive social score on the matrix?

[Gabu]

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

[2952-0-0]

You see my dear friend Gabu, Iran is the pinnacle of civilization. They recognize how the infidel Americans are the Great Satan and anyone who does not believe in their belief will burn in hell for eternity.

Actually, it's likely DWTL is like Hawkeye a while back. Regardless, he should understand he's lucky Dave did not ban him after his BlueDogDem account was uncovered.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two

[Gabu]

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two

If that was what the terrorists hated America for, why wouldn't they go after someone else?  America is one of the least tolerant places of gay people in the Western world.

[Democratic Hawk]

D/D (It's a given)

[Verily]

The fake Libertarian against the fake Democrat. I'll take option c, please.

[Conan]

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two

If that was what the terrorists hated America for, why wouldn't they go after someone else?  America is one of the least tolerant places of gay people in the Western world.

That's actually not true.

[Verily]

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two

If that was what the terrorists hated America for, why wouldn't they go after someone else?  America is one of the least tolerant places of gay people in the Western world.

That's actually not true.

"One of the" means Australia can be equally intolerant and not discredit the statement. (Poland is not part of the Western World.)

[Gabu]

Because being gay is not something to flaunt in the streets, deny it all you want but is the kind of stuff the terrorists get pissed off about and they are right to get pissed about it.  We anger the majority of the civilized world where religion is respected and not pissed on

Do you honestly believe that the terrorists hate America because America is tolerant of gay people, or are you just saying this to get a reaction?

A combination of the two

If that was what the terrorists hated America for, why wouldn't they go after someone else?  America is one of the least tolerant places of gay people in the Western world.

That's actually not true.

"One of the" means Australia can be equally intolerant and not discredit the statement. (Poland is not part of the Western World.)

Basically.  I mean, if the terrorists hate America because they don't lynch gay people, why wouldn't they instead blow up the CN Tower or something?  Canada has legalized gay marriage outright, for God's sake.  We're orders of magnitude more sinful and heretical than the godly Americans.