Let's face it: Polls won't improve for Biden.
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« on: May 21, 2024, 07:12:20 AM »

There. I said it. People already have an opinion of these two men, and no amount of ads or ground game will change that. Trump already has healthy leads in the NPV and swing states according to polling. I don't think anything can change the fact that people just really hate Biden, and see Trump as the lesser evil after everything. Even a conviction doesn't change anything in the long term, because everyone already knows Trump's a criminal; they either don't care or are already voting for Biden.

Biden's only hope is a massive, systematic polling error in his favor, and he needs it against a candidate who's greatly outperformed his polls twice. It's looking pretty bleak.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2024, 07:57:08 AM »

you never think a Democrat will win.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2024, 08:07:49 AM »

you never think a Democrat will win.

If Biden won 49 states, Snow would doom that the one he lost was a bad omen for Democrats.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2024, 08:11:42 AM »
« Edited: May 21, 2024, 08:15:45 AM by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers »

Alot of these users never served as Eday judge or clerk. Provisions ballots always go 2/1 D that's how Biden won last time, all the swing states came in on provisions ballots, Trump thought he got cheated because he never was a politician, Walker and Bevin lost on provisions ballots

If you served as one you will know how close a Trump 3 lead is it's 150K votes and any amount of a batch of Provisions ballots can wipe that out. Just because I live in CA or a safe D state doesn't mean diddly squat the same rule applies to all swing state

I am just glad we will have a real primary in 28 some of the weaknesses and there are weaknesses with Biden is due to Harris I have already ENDORSED Newsom

At least he's not AZ Ice tea, Eastwood or Iceman whom said Mark Penn polls Harris X was the only right one and Marist polled this race and IPSOS AND HAD IT BIDEN 3 LAST WEEK
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2024, 08:21:17 AM »

Alot of these users never served as Eday judge or clerk. Provisions ballots always go 2/1 D that's how Biden won last time, all the swing states came in on provisions ballots, Trump thought he got cheated because he never was a politician, Walker and Bevin lost on provisions ballots

If you served as one you will know how close a Trump 3 lead is it's 150K votes and any amount of a batch of Provisions ballots can wipe that out. Just because I live in CA or a safe D state doesn't mean diddly squat the same rule applies to all swing state

I am just glad we will have a real primary in 28 some of the weaknesses and there are weaknesses with Biden is due to Harris I have already ENDORSED Newsom

At least he's not AZ Ice tea, Eastwood or Iceman whom said Mark Penn polls Harris X was the only right one and Marist polled this race and IPSOS AND HAD IT BIDEN 3 LAST WEEK

Im not even thinking about 28 right now.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2024, 08:35:42 AM »

"Healthy lead in the NPV" isn't accurate, fwiw
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2024, 09:00:01 AM »

"Healthy lead in the NPV" isn't accurate, fwiw

It's just another SL doomer threaf

It's quite remarkable he's right back at his old shtick habits after the tempban expired. And it's tiresome, tbh.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2024, 04:26:37 PM »
« Edited: May 21, 2024, 05:34:20 PM by Progressive Pessimist »

It seems like it's going to take something very significant.

The State of the Union speech barely moved the needle. So something bigger than that.
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2024, 05:23:35 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2024, 07:42:49 PM »
« Edited: May 21, 2024, 08:21:16 PM by Obama24 »

It seems like it's going to take something very significant.

The State of the Union speech barely moved the needle. So something bigger than that.

The average person does not like Biden. He was only elected because Trump mangled the handling of a once in the lifetime pandemic. Biden is not charismatic. He doesn't know how to effectively market himself. He doesn't know how to sell his accomplishments. He suffers from an image problem. He barely holds press conferences compared to his immediate predecessors. He isn't Obama, he isn't Bill Clinton. He's not inspiring or charismatic or charming nor is he himself a particularly activist President. His administration may be, but he isn't.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2024, 07:52:38 PM »

Thanks, feeling more confident Biden will win after this thread.
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2024, 05:18:32 AM »

It seems like it's going to take something very significant.

The State of the Union speech barely moved the needle. So something bigger than that.

The average person does not like Biden. He was only elected because Trump mangled the handling of a once in the lifetime pandemic. Biden is not charismatic. He doesn't know how to effectively market himself. He doesn't know how to sell his accomplishments. He suffers from an image problem. He barely holds press conferences compared to his immediate predecessors. He isn't Obama, he isn't Bill Clinton. He's not inspiring or charismatic or charming nor is he himself a particularly activist President. His administration may be, but he isn't.

Lol wrong it is the Hunter Biden scandal and Tara Reade Scandal that has hurt him among indies, the Rs haven't beaten Biden since 2008 when he ran with Obama. Trump is the uncharacteristically one, he wants to pass tax cuts for the super rich. Why do users reply to SL threads he was banned for Doomers🤑

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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2024, 05:32:00 AM »

Just as you said this we got a poll improving for Biden lol
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2024, 05:49:36 AM »

The polls already have improved for Biden though? He was down by low single digits in January and is now tied. He’s sort of stalled out the last month or so but the idea that the polls cannot change because both candidates are well known is clearly untrue.
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2024, 06:37:49 AM »

Things getting tougher on the campaign trail for Biden.

Nice Old Man

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C66j-7VOUBf/

That is clearly disgusting behaviour. Just posting to highlight the point:

"Who would want to be a Presidential candidate in the US?"
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2024, 08:10:53 AM »

Things getting tougher on the campaign trail for Biden.

Nice Old Man

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C66j-7VOUBf/

That is clearly disgusting behaviour. Just posting to highlight the point:

"Who would want to be a Presidential candidate in the US?"

The guy criticizes the media for not playing the "**** Joe Biden" chants when obviously they don't do that. They never let unedited F bombs drop intentionally in any context, and I think some of them aren't even legally allowed to have that language in daytime hours.
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2024, 09:23:40 AM »

The polls already have improved for Biden though? He was down by low single digits in January and is now tied. He’s sort of stalled out the last month or so but the idea that the polls cannot change because both candidates are well known is clearly untrue.

Exactly lol, the polls have improved for Biden
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2024, 09:45:02 AM »

Money where your mouth is. Leave the forum if Biden wins, at least for a year. Put up or shut up.
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2024, 10:50:43 AM »

The polls already have improved for Biden though? He was down by low single digits in January and is now tied. He’s sort of stalled out the last month or so but the idea that the polls cannot change because both candidates are well known is clearly untrue.

Exactly lol, the polls have improved for Biden
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2024, 12:23:14 PM »

The polls already have improved for Biden though? He was down by low single digits in January and is now tied. He’s sort of stalled out the last month or so but the idea that the polls cannot change because both candidates are well known is clearly untrue.

Exactly lol, the polls have improved for Biden
No, they really haven't. The polls have been remarkably stable for a long time now. There are always going to be small shifts in the average due to statistical noise and polls falling in and out of the average. The basic picture is that Trump has solid leads in enough swing states to secure a pretty easy win despite only holding a narrow NPV lead, just like Obama in 2012.

SnowLabrador might be a perennial doomer, but he's absolutely right about this one. Biden is losing and we need something pretty dramatic to change that.
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2024, 12:28:48 PM »

Polls could improve but it would take a HUGE improvement for Biden to become the favorite, which is especially unlikely because polls have been incredibly stable for the last 3 months, only moving around +-1%
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2024, 01:44:19 PM »

I don't think this is a given
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2024, 02:09:43 PM »
« Edited: May 22, 2024, 02:12:52 PM by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers »


Lol all of Trump leads including NV are within MOE we have 275 that's all we need

People don't understand what a Trump +1/3 pt lead is 15o K votes that it

I am an Eday clerk I know the definition of  MOE means 150K votes
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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2024, 03:01:12 PM »

The polls have improved a little for Biden since March. They need to improve more for him to win the election. Thats why it’s too early to call because it’s close enough where it could tip either way
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2024, 03:45:19 PM »
« Edited: May 22, 2024, 03:59:39 PM by Progressive Pessimist »

Just as you said this we got a poll improving for Biden lol

See, this is why I think SnowLabrador's dooming is necessary. I do think he actively jinxes elections for Republicans. He has a superpower that is doing us all a favor.
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