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WalterMitty
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« on: July 14, 2007, 06:41:07 PM »

chris dodd/blanche lincoln (d)

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bush/cheney
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2007, 06:52:46 PM »

chris dodd's wise choice of a veep pays big dividends.  together the dodd/lincoln ticket is able to get frustrated working class whites to the polls and get a bigger than expected black turnout to give them a 550 vote win in the state of arkansas.



dodd/lincoln: 50%, 270 EVs
bush/cheney: 49%, 268 EVS
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2007, 11:27:16 PM »

With Dodd as the Democratic nominee in 2004, Bush would have scored a crushing electoral victory. 

Dodd, though a good Senator from Connecticuit, is just that, a good Senator from Connecticuit.  He does not rise to the level of a national candidate.  Dodd is more suited to the workings of the Senate than he is to the rough and tumble of a Presidential campaign.

Lincoln is an imaginative and bold choice for Dodd's running mate, a capable Senator, however, she would fail to deliver any of the South to the Dodd candidacy, and dare I say it, not even her home state of Arkansas.  Gore couldn't deliver Tennessee in 2000 as the Presidential nominee, and Lincoln would not deliver Arkansas in 2004 as the Vice Presidential nominee. 

Sorry, but a Dodd/Lincoln ticket, though interesting, would not make any electoral breakthroughs into Republican states, and would lose most of the swing states to Bush/Cheney. 

Bush/Cheney                     338
Dodd/Lincoln                      200

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2007, 11:37:33 PM »

chris dodd's wise choice of a veep pays big dividends.  together the dodd/lincoln ticket is able to get frustrated working class whites to the polls and get a bigger than expected black turnout to give them a 550 vote win in the state of arkansas.



dodd/lincoln: 50%, 270 EVs
bush/cheney: 49%, 268 EVS

Please explain why Dodd would have been any better a candidate than John Kerry.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2007, 02:24:39 AM »

With Dodd as the Democratic nominee in 2004, Bush would have scored a crushing electoral victory. 

Dodd, though a good Senator from Connecticuit, is just that, a good Senator from Connecticuit.  He does not rise to the level of a national candidate.  Dodd is more suited to the workings of the Senate than he is to the rough and tumble of a Presidential campaign.

Lincoln is an imaginative and bold choice for Dodd's running mate, a capable Senator, however, she would fail to deliver any of the South to the Dodd candidacy, and dare I say it, not even her home state of Arkansas.  Gore couldn't deliver Tennessee in 2000 as the Presidential nominee, and Lincoln would not deliver Arkansas in 2004 as the Vice Presidential nominee. 

Sorry, but a Dodd/Lincoln ticket, though interesting, would not make any electoral breakthroughs into Republican states, and would lose most of the swing states to Bush/Cheney. 

Bush/Cheney                     338
Dodd/Lincoln                      200


Switch Michigan and I think that looks about right.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2007, 08:53:37 AM »

chris dodd's wise choice of a veep pays big dividends.  together the dodd/lincoln ticket is able to get frustrated working class whites to the polls and get a bigger than expected black turnout to give them a 550 vote win in the state of arkansas.



dodd/lincoln: 50%, 270 EVs
bush/cheney: 49%, 268 EVS

Please explain why Dodd would have been any better a candidate than John Kerry.

for one thing he would offer clear and definite alternatives to bush.  kerry didnt.

just wait until november of 2008 and youll see how dodd is different.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2007, 05:54:09 PM »

chris dodd's wise choice of a veep pays big dividends.  together the dodd/lincoln ticket is able to get frustrated working class whites to the polls and get a bigger than expected black turnout to give them a 550 vote win in the state of arkansas.



dodd/lincoln: 50%, 270 EVs
bush/cheney: 49%, 268 EVS

Please explain why Dodd would have been any better a candidate than John Kerry.

for one thing he would offer clear and definite alternatives to bush.  kerry didnt.

just wait until november of 2008 and youll see how dodd is different.

Dodd loses before Iowa.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2007, 06:48:27 PM »

chris dodd's wise choice of a veep pays big dividends.  together the dodd/lincoln ticket is able to get frustrated working class whites to the polls and get a bigger than expected black turnout to give them a 550 vote win in the state of arkansas.



dodd/lincoln: 50%, 270 EVs
bush/cheney: 49%, 268 EVS

Please explain why Dodd would have been any better a candidate than John Kerry.

for one thing he would offer clear and definite alternatives to bush.  kerry didnt.

just wait until november of 2008 and youll see how dodd is different.

t thompson loses before Iowa.

corrected that for you, jedi!
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2007, 07:50:30 PM »

chris dodd's wise choice of a veep pays big dividends.  together the dodd/lincoln ticket is able to get frustrated working class whites to the polls and get a bigger than expected black turnout to give them a 550 vote win in the state of arkansas.



dodd/lincoln: 50%, 270 EVs
bush/cheney: 49%, 268 EVS

Please explain why Dodd would have been any better a candidate than John Kerry.

for one thing he would offer clear and definite alternatives to bush.  kerry didnt.

just wait until november of 2008 and youll see how dodd is different.

t thompson loses before Iowa.

corrected that for you, jedi!

You know that you're not allowed to edit quotes without puttin gthe edited part in brackets.
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WalterMitty
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2007, 08:13:50 PM »

chris dodd's wise choice of a veep pays big dividends.  together the dodd/lincoln ticket is able to get frustrated working class whites to the polls and get a bigger than expected black turnout to give them a 550 vote win in the state of arkansas.



dodd/lincoln: 50%, 270 EVs
bush/cheney: 49%, 268 EVS

Please explain why Dodd would have been any better a candidate than John Kerry.

for one thing he would offer clear and definite alternatives to bush.  kerry didnt.

just wait until november of 2008 and youll see how dodd is different.

t thompson loses before Iowa.

corrected that for you, jedi!

You know that you're not allowed to edit quotes without puttin gthe edited part in brackets.

ban me.
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