Romney's New Ad

[Lincoln Republican]

I see ignorance, intolerance, bigotry, and stupidity still runs rampant on this forum against the faith of a major Presidential candidate.

Grow up!   

[Lincoln Republican]

I see ignorance, intolerance, bigotry, and stupidity still runs rampant on this forum against the faith of a major Presidential candidate.

Grow up!   

I count one (1) person in this thread who showed any kind of deliberate intolerance towards Romney's faith.

I never knew that a single person was capable of "running rampant" to such a degree.

Read my post.  I said forum, not thread.  

There are many derogatory and bigoted remarks on this forum aimed squarely at Romney's faith.

[Lincoln Republican]

Hi my name is Mitt Romney.

I think that only material the church of latter days saints approve of should be seen on tv.

I will be sure to legislate my religion on the people of the United Church oh I mean States of America.

I really am conservative..... what I really am! Would a fake conservative has as nice hair as I do?

I'm Mitt Romney and the church approves this message.

Hi, my name is poughies.

I'm a bigot.

I'm poughies and The Bigots Society Of America approves this message.

[Lincoln Republican]

Well, I think that the people have right to attack Romney because of his religion. If you're crazy enough to believe something that has been proven to be a charade, what makes you think your political beliefs aren't also whacky?

Then again, I am an atheist.

This is about the mentality of what I would expect from someone who calls himself "South Park Conservative," who approves of "attack Romney because of his religion."

This is low, this is disgusting, this is bigoted, to attack anyone because of their religion.

I find it incredible that such narrow minded attitudes still cast their dark and decaying shadow over 21st century society.   

[Lincoln Republican]

It's not attacking Romney that is bigoted, it is attacking his faith that is bigoted.

There is a BIG difference.

Attack Romney all you want, I don't care. 

Leave his religion out of it.

[Lincoln Republican]

Attack Romney all you want, I don't care.

Leave his religion out of it.

If he wants to suppress free speech based on what his religious says is objectionable, then it's completely fair game.

I don't care if, say, Harry Reid is a Mormon.  Great for him.

Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. 

Romney speaks for what he believes.  He does not speak for his church, his church does not speak for him.

It is never "fair game" to attack anyone's church.  Rather, it is repugnant, no matter how you try to disguise it.

As President, Romney will have no control over his church, and his church will have no control over him.

Romney is a firm believer in the separation of church and state.   

Wants to supress free speech?  Nonsense.

[Lincoln Republican]

Romney is a firm believer in the separation of church and state.   

Wants to supress free speech?  Nonsense.

From what objective and secular logic does he determine that pornography and allegedly violent or offensive TV shows should be censored?

That's right... he's proposing that we legislate his religious beliefs into government policy which affects everyone.  The ad clearly states that he wants to improve the culture of America based on his religious views.

If you want to see real attacks on his religion though, how about the fact that Mormonism is a cult that was started by a drunken adulterer and lunatic who tricked people into thinking he could read Egyptian heiroglyphics from a bunch of tablets with special glasses that only he had access to?  Or the fact that the church he started makes decisions overturning their past polygamy, racism, and sexism only when suddenly politically expedient?

You see, his church is a complete fraud and sham, but again, what matters here is that he wants to legislate religious beliefs into public policy.

You have truly demonstrated your complete ignorance of and your unbridled prejudice toward The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a church you so obviously know nothing about.

It is ignorance and attitudes like yours that perpetuate narrow minded bigotry in the 21st century.

You must be a direct descendant of some of the fanatics who presided at the Salem witch trials. 

[Lincoln Republican]

I will not be drawn into this type of an internet dialogue with individuals who are obviously predisposed to an already unenlightened stance and prejudicial attitude.

[Lincoln Republican]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a heretical church based on lies and the false prophet Joseph Smith, and a complete perversion of the truth of Jesus Christ.

Go spew your lies, bigotry, ignorance, and your venomous hatred on some hate site  where bigots like you have a good time getting together to perpetuate your sheer stupidity. 

[Lincoln Republican]

I will not be drawn into this type of an internet dialogue with individuals who are obviously predisposed to an already unenlightened stance and prejudicial attitude.

That's what we like to call dodging the bullet.

Tell me, though.  Are you willing to admit that Mitt Romney is a bigot against the non-religious?

Actually, it is called not wasting my time with an exercise in futility.

I do not wish to expend the effort of launching a cruise missile to flatten an ant hill.

Mitt Romney is not a bigot against the non-religious.  He simply has a firm conviction that strong moral values make for a strong nation.  Strong moral values will prevent the nation from decaying from within.

[Lincoln Republican]

Mitt Romney is not a bigot against the non-religious.  He simply has a firm conviction that strong moral values make for a strong nation.  Strong moral values will prevent the nation from decaying from within.

He said that an atheist or agnostic should not be elected as President.  Are you saying that someone without the Christian faith does not have strong moral values?

America is a changing nation,People saw past Kennedy's Catholic faith and I think people will do the same with Romney.

Mitt Romney is closer to Al Smith than John Kennedy, in terms of this analogy you're trying to make.

My belief is that anyone, regardless of race, color, or creed, can have strong moral values, be they Christian or non Christian.

By the same token, anyone, be they Christian or non Christian, can have few if any moral values.

I know many non Christians, and I am proud to call them my friends.

[Lincoln Republican]

I will not be drawn into this type of an internet dialogue with individuals who are obviously predisposed to an already unenlightened stance and prejudicial attitude.

That's what we like to call dodging the bullet.

Tell me, though.  Are you willing to admit that Mitt Romney is a bigot against the non-religious?

Actually, it is called not wasting my time with an exercise in futility.

I do not wish to expend the effort of launching a cruise missile to flatten an ant hill.

Mitt Romney is not a bigot against the non-religious.  He simply has a firm conviction that strong moral values make for a strong nation.  Strong moral values will prevent the nation from decaying from within.

So basically he doesn't like non-religious people but that doesn't make him a bigot towards them?

It is entirely untrue to state that Mitt Romney does not like non religious people.  As a good Christian, Romney has love for all mankind. 

I am aware that Romney has stated that a person of faith should be President.  This by no means should be construed to indicate that Romney believes that only a Christian should be President.  A  person of faith is one who has values and principles that are for the betterment of society, and a person of faith is one who believes in a Supreme Being.  Clearly, a person of faith can be Christian, non Christian, Jewish, Muslim, what have you.

[Lincoln Republican]

I will not be drawn into this type of an internet dialogue with individuals who are obviously predisposed to an already unenlightened stance and prejudicial attitude.

You don't know what you are even talking about. And you dodged my question? Do you support the FLDS?

I have made it a policy of mine not to discuss my personal life on this forum.  However, let me make it perfectly clear, like Mitt Romney, for example, like John Edwards, for example, like most of the Presidential candidates, for example, I am a devout Christian, and my Lord and Savior is Jesus Christ.

Never at any time, not in the past, not now, and at no time in the future, have I, or am I, or will I ever be, a member, or supporter, or have any association with, in any way, shape, or form, with the FLDS.

I am proud to number among my friends Christians and non Christians alike, and I am as well proud to number among my friends people of many different races, nationalities, and creeds.

[Lincoln Republican]

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If you ask me, you sound like a hypocrite. And my comments on this thread had nothing to do with Romney's religion. In fact, when I see Romney speak on CNN or wherever, he has always seemed like a great person. I still believe that he truly believes in everything he did in 1994, too. Also, I'd proudly vote for Harry Reid or any other Mormon like him. Anyway, your comments just aren't consistent.
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Conan, I have never said at any time in this thread anything about any of your comments, nor have I said that any of your comments had anything to do with Romney's religion.  I agree, none of your comments had anything to do with Romney's religion.   

The only comment I have made to you is in answering a question you posed to me.  That's the extent of any dialogue between yourself and me.

In fact, I appreciate the comments you made above about Romney.  They are most magnanimous. 

On the other hand, as to you referring to me as a hyprocite, and as being inconsistent, I disagree, but, well........ that's another matter altogether.

[Lincoln Republican]

Well me and most of the people I know don't believe in a "Supreme Being". I guess we can't run for President according to Romney.

No, that was me, not Romney, that made reference to a Supreme Being.

So, if you or your friends never run for President, or never become President, blame me. 

[Lincoln Republican]

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

[Lincoln Republican]

Mitt Romney evokes the same kinds of passions and emotions that America's great Presidents, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan, have awakened in the hearts and minds of the American people.