The New President Forever Results Thread

[Gustaf]

YEHARGH!

Powell/Rice v Clark/Dean

PV was 57-43

I got over 80% in ID, over 70% in AK, MT, UT and SD.

[PBrunsel]

YEHARGH!

Powell/Rice v Clark/Dean

PV was 57-43

I got over 80% in ID, over 70% in AK, MT, UT and SD.

Clark still won Iowa though.

A landslide andClark still took Iowa!

[King]

YEHARGH!

Powell/Rice v Clark/Dean

PV was 57-43

I got over 80% in ID, over 70% in AK, MT, UT and SD.

Clark still won Iowa though.

A landslide andClark still took Iowa!

Poor PBrunsel

[MHS2002]

Goldwater wins!!
278-260

I ran ads in every state in the last week of campaigning. I had a +900ish momentum at one point.

Next up: Mondale/Reagan or McGovern/Nixon

[PBrunsel]

YEHARGH!

Powell/Rice v Clark/Dean

PV was 57-43

I got over 80% in ID, over 70% in AK, MT, UT and SD.

Clark still won Iowa though.

A landslide andClark still took Iowa!

Poor PBrunsel

It's tough to live in a state like Iowa, Democratic since 1988.

[King]

YEHARGH!

Powell/Rice v Clark/Dean

PV was 57-43

I got over 80% in ID, over 70% in AK, MT, UT and SD.

Clark still won Iowa though.

A landslide andClark still took Iowa!

Poor PBrunsel

It's tough to live in a state like Iowa, Democratic since 1988.

And they said Michael Dukakis didn't change the world...

[King]

Iowa has California Disease... After all those years a Republican stronghold...in 1992 it shifted course

[MHS2002]

Iowa has California Disease... After all those years a Republican stronghold...in 1992 it shifted course

Iowa looks like it's in the process of ridding itself of its "disease," can't say the same for California.

[12th Doctor]

In the newer update, they have the actual amount of votes. I've lost Louisiana once by 12 votes, but I won the election anyway-because I won New Hampshire by 55

I once won Ohio as one of my made up charecters by just 2 votes.  

[King]

Iowa has California Disease... After all those years a Republican stronghold...in 1992 it shifted course

Iowa looks like it's in the process of ridding itself of its "disease," can't say the same for California.

Yeah but Iowa has a mild case because it is just 7 EVs...California is 55...when California sneezes the whole country is sick...

[MHS2002]

Iowa has California Disease... After all those years a Republican stronghold...in 1992 it shifted course

Iowa looks like it's in the process of ridding itself of its "disease," can't say the same for California.

Yeah but Iowa has a mild case because it is just 7 EVs...California is 55...when California sneezes the whole country is sick...

True enough. At least the Republicans showed last election they can win without California

[PBrunsel]

1996:

Oliver North (R) vs. Bill Clinton (D) vs. Art Oliver (L)



Oliver North/Arlen Specter: 43% of the Popular Vote; 273 Electoral Votes

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 43% of the Popular Vote; 265 Electoral Votes

Art Oliver/Harry Browne: 13% of the Popular Vote; o Electoral Votes

I played as Colonel Oliver North and Mayor Art Oliver. As North I barely won Oregon, which gave me the lead and i won Alaska giving me barely enough electoral votes to win. I beat Clinton by 72,159 votes out of the 109,882,413 votes cast!

As Art Oliver I almost won Vermont and D.C. A great success for the Libertarian Party to say the least.

[King]

1996:

Oliver North (R) vs. Bill Clinton (D) vs. Art Oliver (L)



Oliver North/Arlen Specter: 43% of the Popular Vote; 273 Electoral Votes

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 43% of the Popular Vote; 265 Electoral Votes

Art Oliver/Harry Browne: 13% of the Popular Vote; o Electoral Votes

I played as Colonel Oliver North and Mayor Art Oliver. As North I barely won Oregon, which gave me the lead and i won Alaska giving me barely enough electoral votes to win. I beat Clinton by 72,159 votes out of the 109,882,413 votes cast!

As Art Oliver I almost won Vermont and D.C. A great success for the Libertarian Party to say the least.

and you still lost Iowa...

[King]

Sorry PB, I tried playing Bush and getting it...

PV was 61-39, my best state was Texas with 72.6%. I got 49.0% in Iowa.

[ThePrezMex]

I played the scenario someone created called: 2008 The Return of Clinton. With Clinton vs Bush, both able to run for a third term. I played Clinton/Lieberman against Bush/Rice
It was awesome! Clinton landslide. But I have good news for Brunsel: Bush won Iowa!! by 4 points.
Clinton 485 ev Bush 53 ev
PV: Clinton 56.7% Bush 43.3%
Closest states: well, actually there were no close states. The closest were: IN, ND and MI by approx. 2.5%
Best state for Clinton (bar DC) was ME - 67.3%
Best state for Bush was NE - 60.7%
I won Utah due to heavy advertising the last three days.
Bush made some silly things; he decided to spend a disproportionately amount of time in MI, which worked at the end for him, but only there.

[King]

I played the scenario someone created called: 2008 The Return of Clinton. With Clinton vs Bush, both able to run for a third term. I played Clinton/Lieberman against Bush/Rice
It was awesome! Clinton landslide. But I have good news for Brunsel: Bush won Iowa!! by 4 points.
Clinton 485 ev Bush 53 ev
PV: Clinton 56.7% Bush 43.3%
Closest states: well, actually there were no close states. The closest were: IN, ND and MI by approx. 2.5%
Best state for Clinton (bar DC) was ME - 67.3%
Best state for Bush was NE - 60.7%
I won Utah due to heavy advertising the last three days.
Bush made some silly things; he decided to spend a disproportionately amount of time in MI, which worked at the end for him, but only there.

Kentucky liked Clinton in 92 and 96...

[ilikeverin]

1996:

Oliver North (R) vs. Bill Clinton (D) vs. Art Oliver (L)



Oliver North/Arlen Specter: 43% of the Popular Vote; 273 Electoral Votes

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 43% of the Popular Vote; 265 Electoral Votes

Art Oliver/Harry Browne: 13% of the Popular Vote; o Electoral Votes

I played as Colonel Oliver North and Mayor Art Oliver. As North I barely won Oregon, which gave me the lead and i won Alaska giving me barely enough electoral votes to win. I beat Clinton by 72,159 votes out of the 109,882,413 votes cast!

As Art Oliver I almost won Vermont and D.C. A great success for the Libertarian Party to say the least.

How do you do so well?

[PBrunsel]

1996:

Oliver North (R) vs. Bill Clinton (D) vs. Art Oliver (L)



Oliver North/Arlen Specter: 43% of the Popular Vote; 273 Electoral Votes

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 43% of the Popular Vote; 265 Electoral Votes

Art Oliver/Harry Browne: 13% of the Popular Vote; o Electoral Votes

I played as Colonel Oliver North and Mayor Art Oliver. As North I barely won Oregon, which gave me the lead and i won Alaska giving me barely enough electoral votes to win. I beat Clinton by 72,159 votes out of the 109,882,413 votes cast!

As Art Oliver I almost won Vermont and D.C. A great success for the Libertarian Party to say the least.

How do you do so well?

I run adds on the last two days of the election in every state.

I also just barnstorm. I never make speeches.

[King]

A Kerry/Leadership ad 1 week for the Election in Dynasimn as Bush gives me a 20 point boost and Kerry a 20 point loss...I have gone as low as 29% in the polls  and win after a 1 week prior attack...

[Gustaf]

My best result ever as Kerry.

Kerry/Clark v Bush/Cheney

Kerry: 448 EVs 53% of PV

Bush: 90 EVs, 47% of PV

Closest states were KY (50-49), CA (52-47), NV (52-47) and OH (48-51).

I got over 60% in MA, MI, IL, VT, NJ, RI, NM and WA.

[ThePrezMex]

I played the scenario someone created called: 2008 The Return of Clinton. With Clinton vs Bush, both able to run for a third term. I played Clinton/Lieberman against Bush/Rice
It was awesome! Clinton landslide. But I have good news for Brunsel: Bush won Iowa!! by 4 points.
Clinton 485 ev Bush 53 ev
PV: Clinton 56.7% Bush 43.3%
Closest states: well, actually there were no close states. The closest were: IN, ND and MI by approx. 2.5%
Best state for Clinton (bar DC) was ME - 67.3%
Best state for Bush was NE - 60.7%
I won Utah due to heavy advertising the last three days.
Bush made some silly things; he decided to spend a disproportionately amount of time in MI, which worked at the end for him, but only there.

Kentucky liked Clinton in 92 and 96...

Yeah, don't know what happened there. I lost KY by almost 6 points.

[ilikeverin]

1996:

Oliver North (R) vs. Bill Clinton (D) vs. Art Oliver (L)



Oliver North/Arlen Specter: 43% of the Popular Vote; 273 Electoral Votes

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 43% of the Popular Vote; 265 Electoral Votes

Art Oliver/Harry Browne: 13% of the Popular Vote; o Electoral Votes

I played as Colonel Oliver North and Mayor Art Oliver. As North I barely won Oregon, which gave me the lead and i won Alaska giving me barely enough electoral votes to win. I beat Clinton by 72,159 votes out of the 109,882,413 votes cast!

As Art Oliver I almost won Vermont and D.C. A great success for the Libertarian Party to say the least.

How do you do so well?

I run adds on the last two days of the election in every state.

I also just barnstorm. I never make speeches.

Strange, I do both (although I only do 1 day of ads, not 2)

[King]

1996:

Oliver North (R) vs. Bill Clinton (D) vs. Art Oliver (L)



Oliver North/Arlen Specter: 43% of the Popular Vote; 273 Electoral Votes

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 43% of the Popular Vote; 265 Electoral Votes

Art Oliver/Harry Browne: 13% of the Popular Vote; o Electoral Votes

I played as Colonel Oliver North and Mayor Art Oliver. As North I barely won Oregon, which gave me the lead and i won Alaska giving me barely enough electoral votes to win. I beat Clinton by 72,159 votes out of the 109,882,413 votes cast!

As Art Oliver I almost won Vermont and D.C. A great success for the Libertarian Party to say the least.

How do you do so well?

I run adds on the last two days of the election in every state.

I also just barnstorm. I never make speeches.

Strange, I do both (although I only do 1 day of ads, not 2)

Well if he did it both for Republican and Libertarian, and Libertarians take away Republican vote...it adds up.

[Polkergeist]

In my British states scenario, I ran Bush v Blair. Blair was in front for the whole race but Bush won the election:

Bush (R): 329 ev, 69,559,064 45.7%
Blair (D): 326 ev, 75,168,468 49.4 %
Nader (I): 0 ev, 5,981,988 3.9%
Nolan (L): 1,517,113 1.0%

Interesting states:
all won by Bush

HI: 50.7-45.8
Ireland: 52.9-42.1 (It usually goes Dem)
OR: 48.3-47

Dems still won CA.

Has anyone else had results that overturn popular vote victories ?

[JohnFKennedy]

Blair Vs. Bush in Polkgergeist's Scenario (which is excellent btw)

England (85):

Blair: 68.7% (15,049,183)
Bush: 31.2% (6,840,751)

Scotland (11):

Blair: 71.4% (1,696,782)
Bush: 28.5% (677,207)

Wales (7):

Blair: 76.4% (1,008,667)
Bush: 23.5% (310,273)

Ulster (5):

Blair: 54.2% (430,901)
Bush: 45.7% (363,947)

Ireland (9): (Note, Ireland is not part of the UK Polkergeist )

Blair: 54.5% (1,007,117)
Bush: 45.4% (839,047)

Indiana (11):

Blair: 54.9% (1,484,282)
Bush: 45.0% (1,216,332)

Kentucky (:

Blair: 49.9% (889,971)
Bush: 50.0% (891,075)

Florida (27):

Blair: 53.7% (3,821,515)
Bush: 46.2% (3,287,974)

Georgia (15):

Blair: 48.9% (1,764,085)
Bush: 51.0% (1,842,024)

New Hampshire (4):

Blair: 50.5% (278,905)
Bush: 49.4% (273,049)

South Carolina (:

Blair: 53.1% (944,439)
Bush: 46.8% (832,764)

Vermont (3):

Blair: 54.4% (145,884)
Bush: 45.5% (122,189)

Virginia (13):

Blair: 56.0% (1,750,440)
Bush: 43.9% (1,371,061)

North Carolina (15):

Blair: 54.4% (1,930,680)
Bush: 45.5% (1,614,867)

Ohio (20):

Blair: 53.8% (2,715,341)
Bush: 46.1% (2,328,948)

West Virginia (5):

Blair: 56.9% (453,584)
Bush: 43.0% (342,841)

Connecticut (7):

Blair: 55.7% (835,115)
Bush: 44.2% (663,357)

Delaware (3):

Blair: 60.8% (210,187)
Bush: 39.1% (135,042)

Illinois (21):

Blair: 63.7% (3,488,466)
Bush: 36.2% (1,983,101)

Maine (4):

Blair: 57.9% (326,931)
Bush: 42.0% (237,142)

Maryland (10)

Blair: 58.6% (1,368,374)
Bush: 41.3% (965,394)

Massachusetts (12):

Blair: 63.2% (1,768,371)
Bush: 36.7% (1,025,497)

Michigan (17):

Blair: 59.3% (2,595,996)
Bush: 40.6% (1,778,438)

Mississippi (6):

Blair: 45.8% (574,995)
Bush: 54.1% (678,654)

Missouri (11):

Blair: 50.6% (1,253,714)
Bush: 49.3% (1,221,448)

New Jersey (15):

Blair: 62.7% (2,324,454)
Bush: 37.2% (1,378,538)

Oklahoma (7):

Blair: 53.1% (808,204)
Bush: 46.8% (712,144)

Pennsylvania (21):

Blair: 55.4% (3,040,000)
Bush: 44.5% (2,440,436)

Rhode Island (4):

Blair: 62.9% (290,361)
Bush: 37.0% (170,701)

Tennessee (11):

Blair: 55.8% (1,412,982)
Bush: 44.1% (1,116,856)

Texas (34):

Blair: 52.5% (4,897,056)
Bush: 47.4 (4,417,789)

D.C. (3):

Blair: 83.4% (210,571)
Bush: 16.5% (41,656)

Arkansas (6):

Blair: 48.6% (573,042)
Bush: 51.3% (604,698)

Alabama (9):

Blair: 50.8% (996,858)
Bush: 49.1% (963,613)

Arizona (10):

Blair: 57.2% (1,299,038)
Bush: 42.7% (970,829)

Colorado (9):

Blair: 52.5% (996,025)
Bush: 47.4% (900,168)

Kansas (6):

Blair: 54.2% (641,959)
Bush: 45.7% (541,391)

Louisiana (9):

Blair: 52.0% (1,025,434)
Bush: 47.9% (943,833)

Minnesota (10)

Blair: 55.5% (1,202,678)
Bush: 44.4% (962,663)

Nebraska (5):

Blair: 42.9% (324,076)
Bush: 57.0% (430,077)

New Mexico (5):

Blair: 55.0% (443,477)
Bush: 44.9% (361,947)

New York (31):

Blair: 60.4% (5,047,257)
Bush: 39.5% (3,299,259)

North Dakota (3):

Blair: 41.1% (116,387)
Bush: 58.8% (166,609)

South Dakota (3):

Blair: 43.6% (145,278)
Bush: 56.3% (187,522)

Wisconsin (10):

Blair: 52.7% (1,257,377)
Bush: 47.2% (1,125,346)

Wyoming (3):

Blair: 44.1% (95,999)
Bush: 55.8% (121,697)

Idaho (4):

Blair: 35.5% (202,871)
Bush: 64.4% (367,687)

Iowa (7):

Blair: 56.3% (726,034)
Bush: 43.6% (561,901)

Montana (3):

Blair: 42.1% (167,725)
Bush: 57.8% (230,197)

Nevada (5):

Blair: 52.6% (463,233)
Bush: 47.3% (416,363)

Utah (5):

Blair: 35.8% (352,227)
Bush: 64.1% (630,724)

California (55):

Blair: 57.3% (8,677,703)
Bush: 42.6% (6,451,180)

Hawaii (4):

Blair: 59.6% (319,196)
Bush: 40.3% (215,634)

Oregon (7):

Blair: 59.1% (891,020)
Bush: 40.8% (615,401)

Washington (11):

Blair: 57.2% (1,485,903)
Bush: 42.7% (1,109,207)

Alaska (3):

Blair: 43.6% (120,596)
Bush: 56.3% (155,774)


Overrall Totals:

Blair/Lieberman: 591 Electoral Votes - 57% (88,348,951)
Bush/Cheney: 64 Electoral Votes - 42% (64,454,190)

Map:



Those with names listed in the map were in my electoral strategy, I only lost one (Arkansas) and won six that were not in my strategy (North Carolina, South Carolina, Indiana, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Kansas)

Blair Top Five:

D.C. - 83.4%
Wales - 76.4%
Scotland - 71.4%
England - 68.7%
Illinois - 63.7%

EV Value of Blair Top Five - 127 Electoral Votes

Bush Top Five:

Idaho - 64.4%
Utah - 64.1%
North Dakota - 58.8%
Montana - 57.8%
Nebraska - 57.0%

EV Value of Bush Top Five - 20 Electoral Votes

Five Closest States:

Kentucky - Bush by 0.1%
New Hampshire - Blair by 1.1%
Missouri - Blair by 1.3%
Alabama - Blair by 1.7%
Georgia - Bush by 2.1%