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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2004, 12:23:07 PM »


Privatize the USPS and end their monopoly, and privatize AMTRAK.

End all trade barriers unilateraly.

Patients have a right to malpractice law suits.

Increase imigration permits to skilled workers.

The United States Constitution does not provide for lifetime appointment of federal judges, but only for a term of office during good behavior.  Support Congressional enforcement of the Constitutional rule of good behavior and to restrain judicial activism by properly removing offending judges through the process of impeachment provided for in Article I, § 2 and 3 of the Constitution.

Limit the national income tax to a max of 10%. Only flat taxation.

Wage and price control are abominations. Illegalize them through a constitutional ammendement.

It is the intended purpose of civil government to safeguard life, liberty and property - not to redistribute wealth.

Wow, that was extreme libertarianism. Above are the only points in which I agree with your platform.
The last one, about the purpose of civil government I would say: It is the "main" purpose of civil government.... and property, and create conditions of economic opportunity for everybody".

Well, at least we agree on something. Cheesy
But those are just the ideal positions. Compromises could be reached, for example, in the public schools issue, instead of banning them we could return them to local government and end federal and state intervention.

Just a question:
You support eveything on each topic when you only quoted part of it, or you just agree with the part you quoted?

Also, I could drop the stand on drugs easily.

I agree with the part I quoted.
I don't believe that Federal Government is necessarily worse than local and state governments. I always favor small governments, low and simple taxation, no deficits - But I don't believe that certain things need to strictly be done by state and local governments and only a very limited role for Federal Government.
When you say, and I totally agree that the main role of government is to "safeguard life, liberty and property", then I see no need for everybody to carry guns everywhere - That's the role of the government, to protect us. I totally believe in the principle that Clinton said in his speech on Monday night: "put more police on the streets and assault weapons off the street".
I'm very tough on crime, and thus I favor strong gun controls.
Following that argument is my position on drugs. I can favor one of these two options: or every body, all the world, legalizes drug production and consumption and in that way eliminate the incentives to create criminal organizations to trade it (but in order to work it needs to be legalized by everybody), or you really push very hard to enforce and fight against them - No intermediate positions like some drugs are fine and some not, etc.


If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. NYC and DC have huge gun control, and compare them to Oklahoma City.(OK has very little gun control).
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2004, 12:42:08 PM »

If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. NYC and DC have huge gun control, and compare them to Oklahoma City.(OK has very little gun control).

But they had terrible crime rates even before they implemented gun control.  New York has had gang violence at least since the 1850's.  It's the chicken or the egg scenario.

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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2004, 01:01:17 PM »

I don't know what I'd call it, but my major issues would be

- slight raise in taxes on the rich, slight decrease on poor and middle class

-increase of minimum wage to $7.00

-complete seperation of Church and State, including removal of "Under God" from Pledge of Alligence, "in God we trust" from currency

-full marriage rights to gays

-further stem cell research

-marijuana legaliztion

-disband the FCC and invest in equipment so parents can control their own TVs better

-standard psychological exam for all those trying to buy guns

-cut back money on "war on drugs"

-invest more money into military defensive strategy than offensive (missile defense, threat detection systems)

-reel back any tax breaks to companies that send jobs overseas

-lower voting age to 17

-lower drinking age to 18, more money towards  "responsible drinking" education than "don't drink" programs


Overall, I'd try to remove so called "victimless crimes" and push a socially liberal agenda.  

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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2004, 01:22:41 PM »

If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. NYC and DC have huge gun control, and compare them to Oklahoma City.(OK has very little gun control).

But they had terrible crime rates even before they implemented gun control.  New York has had gang violence at least since the 1850's.  It's the chicken or the egg scenario.



What good has gun control done, than? If the situation is the same, better not run over the 2nd ammendment.
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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2004, 01:59:45 PM »
« Edited: July 28, 2004, 02:00:26 PM by Southwest AFRNC Chairman Josh22 »

My party would be like this...

-Outlaw abortions
-Outlaw Gay marriages and civil unions
-Outlaw Drinking.. or just higher the price of it.
-Teach "No sex before marriage" not "safe sex" in school
-Ban smoking in public places
- Make a flat tax rate at about 15%
-Let religion back in schools
-Raise the min wage to $6.30
- Have free trade with human rights
-Stop giving money to other countries.
- Get out of the UN, way to liberal and most of them hate us anyways
-Start our own group like the UN, but have it more consv.
- lower the voting age to 16
-have it where you can't go into the army until you are 21

Thats some of my party..
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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2004, 02:55:49 PM »

My party would be like this...

-Outlaw abortions
-Outlaw Gay marriages and civil unions
-Outlaw Drinking.. or just higher the price of it.
-Teach "No sex before marriage" not "safe sex" in school
-Ban smoking in public places
- Make a flat tax rate at about 15%
-Let religion back in schools
-Raise the min wage to $6.30
- Have free trade with human rights
-Stop giving money to other countries.
- Get out of the UN, way to liberal and most of them hate us anyways
-Start our own group like the UN, but have it more consv.
- lower the voting age to 16
-have it where you can't go into the army until you are 21

Thats some of my party..

Oh my...
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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2004, 02:58:29 PM »

My party would be like this...

-Outlaw abortions
-Outlaw Gay marriages and civil unions
-Outlaw Drinking.. or just higher the price of it.
-Teach "No sex before marriage" not "safe sex" in school
-Ban smoking in public places
- Make a flat tax rate at about 15%
-Let religion back in schools
-Raise the min wage to $6.30
- Have free trade with human rights
-Stop giving money to other countries.
- Get out of the UN, way to liberal and most of them hate us anyways
-Start our own group like the UN, but have it more consv.
- lower the voting age to 16
-have it where you can't go into the army until you are 21

Thats some of my party..

Oh my...

You took the words right out of my mouth. lol.
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« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2004, 03:46:37 PM »

What is wrong with my party?
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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2004, 03:59:16 PM »


For me, the following:
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I can understand gay marriege, but I think they deserve some form of legal aknowledgeble commitment.

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It has been done. Look at the results.

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Neither of the things should be taought. It's up to parents to give their children sexual education. But I agree sexEd should be banned from schools.

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If by public places you mean state owned places, it's ok. If not, your messing with proprety rights.
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One fine way to raise the unemployment rate.
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I can understand your position, but I think free trade regardless of what is the better policy.

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End the UN, yes. Creating a para-UN, no.
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That's ridiculous. It's just a way to get more ignorants to vote. personally, I think it should be raised to 21 again.

The rest either I agree or I don't really mind.
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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2004, 04:13:34 PM »

The Akno21 Party:

Legalize Gay Marriage
Legalize Abortion
Promote Stem Cell Research
Keep a Balanced Budget at all times, if possible
Universal Health Care
Heavy taxes on big business
Lower taxes on lower class
Stiff Environmental Regulations
Listen to the UN
Lower Voting Age to 12, if they can pass a test, once above 18, you can vote even if you are dumb
No age for alcohol consumption
Stiff penalties for law-breakers, pro-death penalty
Only trade with countries that respect human rights
Teach evolution, sexual stuff, everything in schools, let the kids see it
No censorship whatsoever
Increase educational spending
Focus on Homeland Security
"Under God" removed
Let people say whatever, show whatever on TV
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« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2004, 04:16:17 PM »

-Teach "No sex before marriage" not "safe sex" in school

Isn't it very authoritarian of you to teach one and not the other, I would favour teaching both if either so you can allow people to make a decision, what you seem to want to do is force your views into the minds of the youth and prevent them from choosing.
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« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2004, 04:16:55 PM »

My party would be like this...

-Outlaw abortions
-Outlaw Gay marriages and civil unions
-Outlaw Drinking.. or just higher the price of it.
-Teach "No sex before marriage" not "safe sex" in school
-Ban smoking in public places
- Make a flat tax rate at about 15%
-Let religion back in schools
-Raise the min wage to $6.30
- Have free trade with human rights
-Stop giving money to other countries.
- Get out of the UN, way to liberal and most of them hate us anyways
-Start our own group like the UN, but have it more consv.
- lower the voting age to 16
-have it where you can't go into the army until you are 21

Thats some of my party..

Your positions are just so....random...
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« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2004, 04:50:01 PM »

My party would be like this...

-Outlaw abortions
-Outlaw Gay marriages and civil unions
-Outlaw Drinking.. or just higher the price of it.
-Teach "No sex before marriage" not "safe sex" in school
-Ban smoking in public places
- Make a flat tax rate at about 15%
-Let religion back in schools
-Raise the min wage to $6.30
- Have free trade with human rights
-Stop giving money to other countries.
- Get out of the UN, way to liberal and most of them hate us anyways
-Start our own group like the UN, but have it more consv.
- lower the voting age to 16
-have it where you can't go into the army until you are 21

Thats some of my party..

Your positions are just so....random...

How are they random?
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« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2004, 04:50:55 PM »

Economics:

- National right to work law
- Drafting of free trade agreements
- Privatization of Social Security (partially at first)
- No raising of the minimum wage
- Across the board tax cut (but retain the graduated income tax)
- Create government incentives for companies researching renewable energy methods
- Sensible unemployment/welfare reform
- Significantly reduce pork barrel spending and advocate a balanced budget

Social Issues:

- Against gay marriage but repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy
- Elimination of immigration quotas, instead, charge a fee for those who wish to enter the U.S., crack down on illegal immigration
- Against abortion except for circumstances involving the life of the mother
- End race based affirmative action and experiment with class based affirmative action
- Create a 3 day waiting period for guns, institute background checks, otherwise pro second amendment
- End "three strikes" law
- Put away violent drug offenders/dealers, run a smarter, more cost-effective War on Drugs
- Against death penalty except for repeat murderers/terrorists actively plotting against the U.S.

Foreign Policy:

- Build up U.S. military in the fashion of Reagan, expand benefits for current and retired servicemen
- Moderate hawkish views, support of pre-emptive strike policy

That's all for now. I know some of my views are probably mutually exclusive (for instance balancing the budget and expanding the military), but my party would be willing to compromise.
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« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2004, 06:31:03 PM »


It's scary
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« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2004, 07:27:12 PM »


and how is that?
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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2004, 07:37:01 PM »

My Political Party - Canadian based

-High Taxes on the Rich and Big Business (75000 +)
-Moderate Taxes on the Middle Class and Middle Businesses (30000 - 75000)
-Low Taxes on the Low Class and Small Businesses (20000-30000)
-No Taxes on those in Poverty and starting companies for the first year (-20000)
-Social Welfare for impoverished people
-Universal Healthcare Insurance Publically provided
-Strongly regulated business
-Ratification of the Kyoto Protocal
-Moderate military spending
-Military largely focused on reconstruction and building, not aggresive warfare, i.e. Haiti, Afghanistan, Former Yugoslavia, Africa.
-Effective Foreign aid
-Trade deals with inclusive labour rights
-Electoral Reform - Proportional Representation House of Commons(308), and an elected First Past the Post Regional Senate(308). (616)
-Strong backing of the UN
-Decriminalization of Marijuana
-Increased punishment in justice system for criminals convicted of crimes against women and children and violent crimes.
-Fishery control to the provinces, crack down on foreign fishing
-Redistribution of Alberta oil funds back to Alberta, not all but some more than now.
-No Quebec first policy, end preference and special treatment of Quebec in terms of Federal privileges.
-Decrease Censorship

That's just to begin with Wink

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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2004, 08:19:23 PM »

My Political Party - Canadian based

-High Taxes on the Rich and Big Business (75000 +)

So therefore.. i will be taxed high.. Tongue
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« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2004, 10:14:18 PM »



-High Taxes on the Rich and Big Business (75000 +)

That's unfair, tax the rich just for being rich. That seems like class warfare.
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« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2004, 10:17:18 PM »



-High Taxes on the Rich and Big Business (75000 +)

That's unfair, tax the rich just for being rich. That seems like class warfare.
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« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2004, 10:23:31 PM »



-High Taxes on the Rich and Big Business (75000 +)

That's unfair, tax the rich just for being rich. That seems like class warfare.

Nice to see that we still see eye to eye Keystone Phil. Smiley

I'm glad you oppose class warfare as much as me.
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« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2004, 10:26:24 PM »



-High Taxes on the Rich and Big Business (75000 +)

That's unfair, tax the rich just for being rich. That seems like class warfare.

Nice to see that we still see eye to eye Keystone Phil. Smiley

I'm glad you oppose class warfare as much as me.

I mean think about it. Someone works to get to be rich. They sacrifice, they work...we should be taxing them because they have achieved wealth? All those "raise the taxes on the rich!" Dems...give me a break!

Oh and we all know the Dems line of just raising taxes on the wealthy turns into raising taxes on most of America.
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« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2004, 10:31:33 PM »



-High Taxes on the Rich and Big Business (75000 +)

That's unfair, tax the rich just for being rich. That seems like class warfare.

Nice to see that we still see eye to eye Keystone Phil. Smiley

I'm glad you oppose class warfare as much as me.

I mean think about it. Someone works to get to be rich. They sacrifice, they work...we should be taxing them because they have achieved wealth? All those "raise the taxes on the rich!" Dems...give me a break!

Oh and we all know the Dems line of just raising taxes on the wealthy turns into raising taxes on most of America.

It's penalizing success and hard work, that's what heavy taxation of the wealthy is.
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« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2004, 10:36:28 PM »

Firstly, I'm not a Dem.

Second, a lot of people that are rich can do to have their taxes higher than those who are poor. It's called a progressive tax structure.

Thirdly, so what if it's class warfare, maybe that's what I think is right, you pay your share.

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« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2004, 10:36:29 PM »



-High Taxes on the Rich and Big Business (75000 +)

That's unfair, tax the rich just for being rich. That seems like class warfare.

Nice to see that we still see eye to eye Keystone Phil. Smiley

I'm glad you oppose class warfare as much as me.

I mean think about it. Someone works to get to be rich. They sacrifice, they work...we should be taxing them because they have achieved wealth? All those "raise the taxes on the rich!" Dems...give me a break!

Oh and we all know the Dems line of just raising taxes on the wealthy turns into raising taxes on most of America.

It's penalizing success and hard work, that's what heavy taxation of the wealthy is.

Exactly. No unfair tax on the wealthy! Oh and for the record, no I'm not rich so the arguement that I'm defending the rich because I am rich is false. I'm from middle class Northeast Philadelphia. Just wanted everyone to know that even if I wasn't going to be accused.

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