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Kaine for Senate '18
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« on: September 13, 2007, 03:10:25 PM »

For this change, 1 EV=500,000 people.  I may have rounded up on some states, if they just barely miss an EV, though:

Tell me what you think of the map, and the change.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2007, 03:26:54 PM »

Sure. the GOP would so lose with this.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2007, 03:39:04 PM »

Sure. the GOP would so lose with this.
The only reason the map looks like that is because I just picked a random year on the calculator.  This is 2004:
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2007, 04:58:31 PM »

Sure. the GOP would so lose with this.

For about two election cycles, but then they would adapt to do what they had to to win.  Why does everyone think the parties are so static?  "They will lose for sure" only works if they aren't willing to adjust their possitions a little (like the Libertarians or Greens).
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2007, 08:05:52 PM »

Sure. the GOP would so lose with this.
The only reason the map looks like that is because I just picked a random year on the calculator.  This is 2004:


No thanks on that change haha; that would be 285-253 Democrat. Only problem with that map is the rust belt (MI, OH, PA, NY, NJ?) would not gain anything, they would lose EV's.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2007, 08:11:05 PM »
« Edited: September 13, 2007, 08:40:09 PM by Warner for Senate '08 »

No thanks on that change haha; that would be 285-253 Democrat. Only problem with that map is the rust belt (MI, OH, PA, NY, NJ?) would not gain anything, they would lose EV's.
Most of the states with large EV totals gain EV's.  The states that lose them are really small (WY, ND, SD, etc).  Also, the GOP would still win, 311-285.  The map doesn't add up to 538, that's part of the change.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2007, 11:03:53 PM »

I like the system the way it is.
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2007, 02:37:59 AM »

I'm not a fan of changes to the actual Electoral College.  500,000 per Representative would be much better.  That would increase the House size by 165 (600 total) and you'd end up with 703 EVs and a distribution roughly similar to this:


(Republicans win 376-327)

If you used the actual apportionment method used by Congress I'd expect some of the larger states to go down and the smaller ones to go up.  My map is based purely on dividing the states' current populations by 500,000 making it less accurate.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2007, 10:32:55 AM »

No thanks on that change haha; that would be 285-253 Democrat. Only problem with that map is the rust belt (MI, OH, PA, NY, NJ?) would not gain anything, they would lose EV's.
Most of the states with large EV totals gain EV's.  The states that lose them are really small (WY, ND, SD, etc).  Also, the GOP would still win, 311-285.  The map doesn't add up to 538, that's part of the change.

oh, ok. all i did was add up the Dem states
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2007, 11:21:25 AM »

For this change, 1 EV=500,000 people.  I may have rounded up on some states, if they just barely miss an EV, though:

Tell me what you think of the map, and the change.

I'm pretty sure Maine and Nebraska are given with two votes too many on your map. Seems to be a problem with the map generator.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2007, 02:55:34 PM »

For this change, 1 EV=500,000 people.  I may have rounded up on some states, if they just barely miss an EV, though:

Tell me what you think of the map, and the change.

I'm pretty sure Maine and Nebraska are given with two votes too many on your map. Seems to be a problem with the map generator.
I think you're right, thanks.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2007, 03:09:46 PM »

For this change, 1 EV=500,000 people.  I may have rounded up on some states, if they just barely miss an EV, though:

Tell me what you think of the map, and the change.

I'm pretty sure Maine and Nebraska are given with two votes too many on your map. Seems to be a problem with the map generator.
I think you're right, thanks.

I would say if there are more than 250,000 people left over, then go ahead and add another one, otherwise divide them up.  For instance, Kansas has 2.8 million people.  I would go ahead and give them a 6th EV.  Oklahoma has about 3.6-3.7 million people, so I would keep them at 7.  Looks like you did that with Missouri who has 5.9 million people.

For my curiosity alone, would you either make another map with my proposed changes, or tell me how to do it, please.

Thanks,

Jeff -- Kansas City Indy
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2007, 03:20:07 PM »

For this change, 1 EV=500,000 people.  I may have rounded up on some states, if they just barely miss an EV, though:

Tell me what you think of the map, and the change.

I'm pretty sure Maine and Nebraska are given with two votes too many on your map. Seems to be a problem with the map generator.
I think you're right, thanks.

I would say if there are more than 250,000 people left over, then go ahead and add another one, otherwise divide them up.  For instance, Kansas has 2.8 million people.  I would go ahead and give them a 6th EV.  Oklahoma has about 3.6-3.7 million people, so I would keep them at 7.  Looks like you did that with Missouri who has 5.9 million people.

For my curiosity alone, would you either make another map with my proposed changes, or tell me how to do it, please.

Thanks,

Jeff -- Kansas City Indy

1.  Go to the calculator, pick any random year since 1964, so you have all 51 states.
2.  Copy and paste the image onto a post.
3.  Find the population for all 51 states, and divide each state by 500,000
4.  Then change the EV of each state to fit that number, and post.
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