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« Reply #275 on: February 23, 2009, 08:15:26 AM »

Crépeau's map is a regional one+traditional RadSoc one (Tarn-et-Garonne, Lot, Eure-et-Loir among others).

Corse is a bit weird, especially Haute-Corse.

Garaud's one is difficult because of a nationally low score. But I would say that, apart from her regional "stronghold" in Poitou and Touraine, it's a nationalist map, i.e. a map similar to first FN maps of the 80s.

You think that map is hard to analyze? I made a Renouvin map a while ago Grin
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« Reply #276 on: February 23, 2009, 10:13:39 AM »


Yes, that's certainly better than my map.
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« Reply #277 on: February 23, 2009, 10:39:38 AM »

Re; Alsace, I'm surprised at how many leftish cantons there are up in the Vosges. Always assumed that that area was quite right-wing.
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« Reply #278 on: February 23, 2009, 12:39:09 PM »

Did the PS ever release the results for the first round of the first secretary election (Royal v. Aubry v. Hamon)?
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« Reply #279 on: February 23, 2009, 02:08:45 PM »

I didn't find it, but maybe I didn't search enough.
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« Reply #280 on: February 23, 2009, 04:02:04 PM »

Did the PS ever release the results for the first round of the first secretary election (Royal v. Aubry v. Hamon)?

I don't think they did. Probably too busy in their little civil war.

Re; Alsace, I'm surprised at how many leftish cantons there are up in the Vosges. Always assumed that that area was quite right-wing.

Until recently, a large part of the areas northwest of Mulhouse were potash mining areas. And Cernay is a largely working-class city.

Do note that some of those I classified as DVG were classified as Independents upon their election but get classified DVG since they caucus with the opposition. Saint-Amarin for example.
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« Reply #281 on: February 24, 2009, 03:11:52 AM »

Crépeau's map is a regional one+traditional RadSoc one (Tarn-et-Garonne, Lot, Eure-et-Loir among others).

Corse is a bit weird, especially Haute-Corse.

Garaud's one is difficult because of a nationally low score. But I would say that, apart from her regional "stronghold" in Poitou and Touraine, it's a nationalist map, i.e. a map similar to first FN maps of the 80s.

You think that map is hard to analyze? I made a Renouvin map a while ago Grin

Yeah... But Renouvin is a real real joke (not a real royalist), whereas Garaud is only a real joke... (I mean, by 1981; now she is a real real joke)
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« Reply #282 on: February 24, 2009, 03:25:34 AM »

Did the PS ever release the results for the first round of the first secretary election (Royal v. Aubry v. Hamon)?
Unfortunately not. It's difficult to find something perfect in political science...
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« Reply #283 on: February 24, 2009, 07:41:18 AM »

Crépeau's map is a regional one+traditional RadSoc one (Tarn-et-Garonne, Lot, Eure-et-Loir among others).

Corse is a bit weird, especially Haute-Corse.

Garaud's one is difficult because of a nationally low score. But I would say that, apart from her regional "stronghold" in Poitou and Touraine, it's a nationalist map, i.e. a map similar to first FN maps of the 80s.

You think that map is hard to analyze? I made a Renouvin map a while ago Grin

Yeah... But Renouvin is a real real joke (not a real royalist), whereas Garaud is only a real joke... (I mean, by 1981; now she is a real real joke)
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Renouvin's campaign video makes my history teacher seem interesting and engaging. Listen to his campaign video Grin if you don't fall asleep Smiley.
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« Reply #284 on: March 01, 2009, 12:43:21 PM »

Bumpity. Any requests?
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« Reply #285 on: March 01, 2009, 12:45:19 PM »

Anyways. I was lucky enough to fall on an old RFSP article that had a map of the 1962 election by constituency. And I had a 1958 constituency map. So...

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« Reply #286 on: March 01, 2009, 12:57:20 PM »


Since there is no appropriate thread may I ask you if you could draw a Green map for the last communal, legislative and european elections in Luxembourg ?
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« Reply #287 on: March 02, 2009, 08:17:51 PM »

The '62 map is fascinating. Like a different world in some ways, very familar in others. Can you do zoom-ins for the big cities?

(and obviously more maps like that for other years would be great, but I'm not going to pushy. I've done that sort of thing myself and know how long they can take).
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« Reply #288 on: March 02, 2009, 08:46:05 PM »

The '62 map is fascinating. Like a different world in some ways, very familar in others. Can you do zoom-ins for the big cities?

(and obviously more maps like that for other years would be great, but I'm not going to pushy. I've done that sort of thing myself and know how long they can take).

The base map doesn't have an inset for urban areas, sadly.

I'll try to do more maps but in a lot of departments, I don't know which constituency is which.

I might do 1967 if I find data I can work with.
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« Reply #289 on: March 04, 2009, 04:03:37 AM »

I'm going to try to find a map with constituency numbers for you and with zoomings on big cities (constituency boundaries are the same from 62 to 81, IIRC).

As for 1967, 1968 and so on, I'm afraid I've got only detailed datas on paper: if I can find some time, I may give you a "short" list with parties affiliation only. Please let me know which parliamentary elections are missing in your files.
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« Reply #290 on: March 04, 2009, 08:11:59 AM »

I'm going to try to find a map with constituency numbers for you and with zoomings on big cities (constituency boundaries are the same from 62 to 81, IIRC).

Trugarez! That would be appreciated.

As for 1967, 1968 and so on, I'm afraid I've got only detailed datas on paper: if I can find some time, I may give you a "short" list with parties affiliation only. Please let me know which parliamentary elections are missing in your files.

I was planning on using the National Assembly records for those elections, but they're divided up by parliamentary group and not party. If you have stuff on party affiliation for the MPs in 1967 and so on I'd really appreciate that.
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« Reply #291 on: March 04, 2009, 08:21:35 PM »

The political evolution of Bretagne since in ten years is fascinating.

In 1998, right before the 1998 cantonal elections, the cantonal CG situation was the following in terms of left/right:



Today, after the 2008 elections, the situation is as follows:



For those who prefer things in terms of parties, here are the maps

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« Reply #292 on: March 04, 2009, 09:30:21 PM »

Sneak preview of upcoming stuff. Concerns old elections.



More similar stuff for Lille and Bordeaux, and also starting on a 1967 map, nationwide.

I'll also work on a big ass map of the Grande Couronne and Petite Couronne, by 1962 constituency.
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« Reply #293 on: March 05, 2009, 03:56:08 AM »

Sneak preview of upcoming stuff. Concerns old elections.



More similar stuff for Lille and Bordeaux, and also starting on a 1967 map, nationwide.

I'll also work on a big ass map of the Grande Couronne and Petite Couronne, by 1962 constituency.

How do you make it for Grande and Petite Couronnes in 1962 ?
Remember it wasn't the same departements (and so, not the same constituencies).

Val d'Oise, Yvelines, Essonne, Val de Marne, Seine-Saint-Denis, Hauts-de-Seine and Paris were all created to replace Seine and Seine-et-Oise in 1967.

Ile-de-France maps I've sent you are OK from 1968 (sure) or 1967 (maybe) until 1981 included.

As for Corsica, your 1962 map is OK until 1973 included; national maps I've sent you are OK for 1978 and 1981.

Oddly enough, Salmon, who says on his website that he has slightly redrawn Gaudillère's maps which were "mistaken" on some points, doesn't take into account these huge map evolutions in Ile-de-France and Corsica....

I'll try to contact him and make him work on this subject...
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« Reply #294 on: March 05, 2009, 07:39:50 AM »

Tell him to make insets for big cities and IdF Wink
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« Reply #295 on: March 05, 2009, 09:13:09 PM »

How do you make it for Grande and Petite Couronnes in 1962 ?
Remember it wasn't the same departements (and so, not the same constituencies).

Val d'Oise, Yvelines, Essonne, Val de Marne, Seine-Saint-Denis, Hauts-de-Seine and Paris were all created to replace Seine and Seine-et-Oise in 1967.

Ile-de-France maps I've sent you are OK from 1968 (sure) or 1967 (maybe) until 1981 included.

As for Corsica, your 1962 map is OK until 1973 included; national maps I've sent you are OK for 1978 and 1981.

Crap. I meant post-division maps, so 1967 onwards.

Anyways, cleaned up Salmon's base map (lots of black smudges and small pixels) for metro France and did the insets. Still working on the petite couronne base map, which should take quite a bit of time. Anyways, I did a 1978 map - Petite Couronne (however, I'll do the Petite Couronne 1978 map when my base map is finished).



I did 1978 because it's the top PCF result (86 seats). It's also quite interesting.

And I'll do 1981 next.
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« Reply #296 on: March 06, 2009, 03:15:31 AM »

Yeah, fine.

I didn't remember the PCF won all the constituencies in Gard...

The 1978 map is indeed interesting : almost a "classic" equilibrium between right and left.
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« Reply #297 on: March 06, 2009, 07:45:15 AM »


The 1978 map is indeed interesting : almost a "classic" equilibrium between right and left.

Yeah, 1978 is the only one that was really a close election (there were other "close" elections, but 1978 is by far the closest).

And almost one of the few French legislative elections that was a surprise. The left was really expecting to win this one, they led all polls. But their voters didn't turn out.
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« Reply #298 on: March 06, 2009, 09:45:01 AM »


The 1978 map is indeed interesting : almost a "classic" equilibrium between right and left.

Yeah, 1978 is the only one that was really a close election (there were other "close" elections, but 1978 is by far the closest).

And almost one of the few French legislative elections that was a surprise. The left was really expecting to win this one, they led all polls. But their voters didn't turn out.

Before the election, there was the famous Giscard speech at Verdun-sur-le-Doubs, which foresaw a "cohabitation": Giscard was OK and would have appointed a socialist PM (Rocard ? Mitterrand ? Mauroy ? I haven't read anything on whether he had already an idea).
This speech is referred to by public law and political sciences teachers and books, even today.

There were also famous images of Michel Rocard almost crying live on TV.

Nowadays, Rocard would have been applauded.

Then, Mitterrand said behind doors that that was one more evidence that Rocard is too weak to be the PS candidate.
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« Reply #299 on: March 07, 2009, 08:53:33 AM »

You want some "Red Belt"? Have this.

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