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« Reply #525 on: February 23, 2012, 10:00:37 pm »
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1. We need an all-communes map of the results! Grin

I've been working on this for a while. Far from finished, I know, but it might satisfy some.
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« Reply #526 on: February 23, 2012, 10:05:00 pm »
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« Reply #527 on: February 24, 2012, 05:28:51 am »
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Yeah, I wanted to do by arrondissements, but my base map (ripped off from Geoclip and pasted together into a single huge base map) didn't include them.

I can do cantonal maps for any candidate in 2002 or 2007, any major party in the 2009 EU elections or major lists in the 2010 regions, any major party in the 2007 legislative elections. So if you have requests, it'll give me a pass time.

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Chevènement 2002
Madelin 2002
Besancenot 2007
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And, for fun,
Boutin 2002
Bové 2007
Villiers 2007.
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« Reply #528 on: February 24, 2012, 07:10:38 am »
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Yeah, I wanted to do by arrondissements, but my base map (ripped off from Geoclip and pasted together into a single huge base map) didn't include them.

I can do cantonal maps for any candidate in 2002 or 2007, any major party in the 2009 EU elections or major lists in the 2010 regions, any major party in the 2007 legislative elections. So if you have requests, it'll give me a pass time.

I don't know if it requires too much work for you, but I'd really apreciate if you could do the map I asked you some time ago. Basically, a map showing left (Jospin+Laguiller+Chevènement+Mamère+Besancenot+Hue+Taubira+Gluckstein), right (Chirac+Bayrou+Saint-Josse+Madelin+Lepage+Boutin) and far-right (Le Pen+Mégret) nationally tied with UNS. If it's too complicated to do, no problem. There are plenty of other interesting things to do. Smiley
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« Reply #529 on: February 24, 2012, 11:58:48 am »

Yeah, I wanted to do by arrondissements, but my base map (ripped off from Geoclip and pasted together into a single huge base map) didn't include them.

I can do cantonal maps for any candidate in 2002 or 2007, any major party in the 2009 EU elections or major lists in the 2010 regions, any major party in the 2007 legislative elections. So if you have requests, it'll give me a pass time.

I don't know if it requires too much work for you, but I'd really apreciate if you could do the map I asked you some time ago. Basically, a map showing left (Jospin+Laguiller+Chevènement+Mamère+Besancenot+Hue+Taubira+Gluckstein), right (Chirac+Bayrou+Saint-Josse+Madelin+Lepage+Boutin) and far-right (Le Pen+Mégret) nationally tied with UNS. If it's too complicated to do, no problem. There are plenty of other interesting things to do. Smiley

Doing it by canton would kill me, but by constituency is fairly simple:



Landes (rofl), Pyrenees-Atlantiques, Correze and the Somme estuary are f-ed up.
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« Reply #530 on: February 24, 2012, 12:09:46 pm »
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Yeah, I wanted to do by arrondissements, but my base map (ripped off from Geoclip and pasted together into a single huge base map) didn't include them.

I can do cantonal maps for any candidate in 2002 or 2007, any major party in the 2009 EU elections or major lists in the 2010 regions, any major party in the 2007 legislative elections. So if you have requests, it'll give me a pass time.

I don't know if it requires too much work for you, but I'd really apreciate if you could do the map I asked you some time ago. Basically, a map showing left (Jospin+Laguiller+Chevènement+Mamère+Besancenot+Hue+Taubira+Gluckstein), right (Chirac+Bayrou+Saint-Josse+Madelin+Lepage+Boutin) and far-right (Le Pen+Mégret) nationally tied with UNS. If it's too complicated to do, no problem. There are plenty of other interesting things to do. Smiley

Doing it by canton would kill me, but by constituency is fairly simple:



Landes (rofl), Pyrenees-Atlantiques, Correze and the Somme estuary are f-ed up.

Thank you. Smiley

Indeed, it's a pretty strange map... How in the world does the right prevail over the left in so many southwest constituencies ? Huh
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« Reply #531 on: February 24, 2012, 12:27:03 pm »

Most certainly the fact of adding in Bayrou and Saint-Josse in the right's sum which wrecks matters. Both either had a favourite son appeal or performed abnormally strongly.
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« Reply #532 on: February 24, 2012, 12:37:54 pm »
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Most certainly the fact of adding in Bayrou and Saint-Josse in the right's sum which wrecks matters. Both either had a favourite son appeal or performed abnormally strongly.

True, maybe the 3-way packing I proposed wasn't the right one... Still, can you tell me how many constituency each "side" won ? Since it's a 3-way tie, I wonder which of those has a geographic advantage.
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« Reply #533 on: February 24, 2012, 12:39:18 pm »
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That map confirms my dislike of Eastern France.
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« Reply #534 on: February 24, 2012, 01:21:07 pm »
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Fascinating maps. Smiley
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« Reply #535 on: February 27, 2012, 05:24:25 am »
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« Reply #536 on: February 28, 2012, 10:10:09 am »
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That map confirms my dislike of Eastern France.

Don't include Isère on that thoughts.
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« Reply #537 on: February 28, 2012, 12:34:55 pm »

That map confirms my dislike of Eastern France.

Don't include Isère on that thoughts.

Isère is a fascinating department. In reality, it acts like two departments, one of which should be in western France and the other of which should be in Lorraine. Sud-Isère is great, Nord-Isère is awful (politically).
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« Reply #538 on: February 28, 2012, 01:12:41 pm »
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I hope there are more of those maps to come.
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« Reply #539 on: March 15, 2012, 02:32:52 pm »
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result of all left political families on all elections since the beginning of the 5th republic.

Considered as "left" all parties wich admitt themselve this qualification. Considered too, ecologists from 1974 to 1994 (and the division of this family between two wings). After 1994, only LV and EELV are considered as left.


translation france/US :

presidentielle= presidential
legislatives = congressional
regionales=gubernatoral
cantonales= dunno. County election ?
europeennes = election for european parliament






based upon those stats, I think again and again than the victory of Hollande would certainly not as easy as french polls are saying right now.


(and I don't speak about the so important legislative election of june)
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« Reply #540 on: March 15, 2012, 04:34:40 pm »
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result of all left political families on all elections since the beginning of the 5th republic.

Considered as "left" all parties wich admitt themselve this qualification. Considered too, ecologists from 1974 to 1994 (and the division of this family between two wings). After 1994, only LV and EELV are considered as left.


translation france/US :

presidentielle= presidential
legislatives = congressional
regionales=gubernatoral
cantonales= dunno. County election ?
europeennes = election for european parliament






based upon those stats, I think again and again than the victory of Hollande would certainly not as easy as french polls are saying right now.


(and I don't speak about the so important legislative election of june)

I highly doubt the issue's that black and white.
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« Reply #541 on: March 15, 2012, 05:23:02 pm »
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Yeah, these generalisations don't tell much.
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« Reply #542 on: March 16, 2012, 06:36:06 am »
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et voilà..., make pretty graphics, and collect only not very sympathetic comments

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« Reply #543 on: March 16, 2012, 07:00:36 am »
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et voilà..., make pretty graphics, and collect only not very sympathetic comments

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We apreciate your efforts but, often, one summary graph doesn't tell enough. Congrats for your work, of course.
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« Reply #544 on: March 16, 2012, 05:49:50 pm »
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et voilà..., make pretty graphics, and collect only not very sympathetic comments

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We apreciate your efforts but, often, one summary graph doesn't tell enough.


a little, whatever, no ? The graphs show us than all lefts are rarely under the 50 %.

What make me perplexed is the fact than, after TEN years of UMP, TEN years of sarko, of nadine morano, of david douillet, and others inept right-wing politicians, the lefts are so weak at the first round

of course, on the 2e round, sarko could be beat, but it would be more an antisarko wave than a support for left ideas, no?
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« Reply #545 on: March 17, 2012, 03:09:19 pm »
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Well, yes. Then again, the problem may be right here:
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Considered as "left" all parties wich admitt themselve this qualification.

The pattern of MODEM voters for second rounds the last few years has not exactly been to support UMP en bloc.
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Well, yes. Then again, the problem may be right here:
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Considered as "left" all parties wich admitt themselve this qualification.

The pattern of MODEM voters for second rounds the last few years has not exactly been to support UMP en bloc.


yes, i admitt this point, but I don't considere than all non-left block belong to a right-block.

The only (from my point of view) way to calculate force of the lefts is to objectivically aggregate all parties wich themsleves considere belong to left.


If I would had made a graph of aggregate of the rights, I would not had include MODEM
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« Reply #547 on: March 18, 2012, 04:40:13 am »
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Yeah, not including them in such a historical graph makes sense... drawing conclusions from the graph for this year's presidential election without taking the factor into account is what doesn't. Smiley
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« Reply #548 on: March 29, 2012, 08:54:16 pm »

Something big will be up tomorrow (hopefully). Stay tuned or take guesses.
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« Reply #549 on: March 29, 2012, 09:17:34 pm »
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Looking forward ! Smiley
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