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« on: October 21, 2007, 08:22:17 PM »

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/32e19f68-7ff9-11dc-b075-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1


If only this were possible, I'm afraid not even the coming landslide (not Presidential) won't even be enough for us to silence the neo-cons and religious right and move forward.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2007, 08:35:49 PM »

You mean he wants  the Republican party to move to the left of the Democratic party? That's not going to happen.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2007, 08:42:55 PM »

Arnold Schwarzenegger is certainly one of the more tolerable Republicans, and I'd even vote for him if his opponent was an idiot.

Unfortunately, 2008 will not be the year that the Republican party runs for the center.  It will be the first year in a long time that running as far right as possible will actually hurt them, which is significant.

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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2007, 09:36:32 PM »

The Democrats have already seized the center. Of course, if the Republicans seized the left of center, that'd be pretty cool.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2007, 09:50:42 PM »

The Democrats have already seized the center. Of course, if the Republicans seized the left of center, that'd be pretty cool.


With a congressional approval rate of 11% I'd say the center doesn't really belong to anyone.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2007, 11:50:37 PM »
« Edited: October 21, 2007, 11:53:45 PM by Goa Tse »

The Democrats have already seized the center. Of course, if the Republicans seized the left of center, that'd be pretty cool.


With a congressional approval rate of 11% I'd say the center doesn't really belong to anyone.

At 11%, I would say that no one belongs to anyone. The conservatives just fillibuster things by talking about their homoerotic encounters in which they claimed they canceled out they gayness by saying "no homo" and the liberals are too principled to stop them from shutting down congress.


Unfortunately, 2008 will not be the year that the Republican party runs for the center.  It will be the first year in a long time that running as far right as possible will actually hurt them, which is significant.

Could 2008 be the next 1968 (where the opposition urges normalcy) or 1972 (when the lingering majority runs such a radical campaign, that for the next 40 years, a majority of americans will not vote for them), basically a political Stalingrad for the party that has defined America for the past third century?
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 01:52:08 AM »

You mean he wants  the Republican party to move to the left of the Democratic party? That's not going to happen.

Or maybe just roll back the clock to, say, the far more tolerable GOP of the 1980s.

Remember?  When the GOP was for limited government (and meant it), balanced budgets, intelligent foreign policy, and for keeping out of people's private lives?
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2007, 02:43:26 AM »

You mean he wants  the Republican party to move to the left of the Democratic party? That's not going to happen.

Or maybe just roll back the clock to, say, the far more tolerable GOP of the 1980s.

Remember?  When the GOP was for limited government (and meant it), balanced budgets, intelligent foreign policy, and for keeping out of people's private lives?

Its best not to post in response to him, he doesn't understand.
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2007, 03:05:54 AM »

I'd say the Democrats own the center simply due to the shear number of "Bush seats" they hold in comparison to the GOP's "Kerry seats." 
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2007, 07:50:21 PM »
« Edited: October 22, 2007, 07:52:18 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

You mean he wants  the Republican party to move to the left of the Democratic party? That's not going to happen.

Or maybe just roll back the clock to, say, the far more tolerable GOP of the 1980s.

Remember?  When the GOP was for limited government (and meant it), balanced budgets, intelligent foreign policy, and for keeping out of people's private lives?

Well, Reagan was far more tolerable than Bush, but that's not saying much. Maybe you meant the pre-1980 GOP? Of course, I would want the Democrats to back to their pre-1980 roots, too, with people like Senators Frank Church, George McGovern, and Birch Bayh.

The Democrats may have regained the Senate (3 different times) since 1980, but they have never truly recovered from the 1980 Senate elections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_1980
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2007, 05:47:25 AM »

The Democrats have already seized the center. Of course, if the Republicans seized the left of center, that'd be pretty cool.


With a congressional approval rate of 11% I'd say the center doesn't really belong to anyone.

Congressional approval rating has nothing to do with the perception that the Democrats are the moderate party and the Republicans extreme. 
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