France General Discussion

[Silent Hunter]

Why do French rail workers go on strike so much?

They've got such a reputation for that, one of my French books at school featured a cartoon that ended with the discovery of a transport strike.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Why do French rail workers go on strike so much?

The unions that represent rail workers in France are controlled by Communists (CGT) and various other forms of hard-leftist, including (last time I checked) Trots.

Mind you, do they actually go on strike more than the RMT does on the tube these days? Serious question actually.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Why do French rail workers go on strike so much?

Big strikes, big demonstrations, that's a culture in France, "first we strike, then we speack".

It goes less and less, Sarkozy will end this I think. I think that these strikes will show that now a new time with new methods begin in France.

Currently, it's still actual, law men began to strike and public workers go on for it on Tuesday. Students still resist with 40 universities mobilized, sometimes and maybe most of the times by minorities. Rail workers are still on strike, even if it is less and less.

Most important thing is that we hear more and more a public opinion against these strikes, before they didn't like it but they said nothing, now they speack and they say they don't like, more and more. More of that bosses of unions have more and more problems to control their bases, unioners don't want to listen them cause they try to negociate feeling that time play against unions and that the possibilities of aquiring something are more and more tiny.

I'm alone to bet but I continue, and always with a bigger bet on Sarkozy.

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The strikes are a failure for the commies since only about 30% of the SNCF was on strike yesterday, around 25% of the RATP. I hope those wannabe Trots/Commies get their ass kicked and start working, lazy idiots.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Attorney

I would like to speack to you about what you've written about the PS (main current opposition party in France, for the one who don't know) in your signature.

You can't say that this party is a Milosevic lover one, a eurosceptic one or a communist one. In this party there are euroscpetics, there are some sorts of quite communists, but all of them are far  to be the majority, these are in PC (communist party) or in LCR (communist revolutionary league) or LO (working fight) or in any all quite hard leftists obscurate small parties. They are also not Milosevic lover at all, there are maybe one or two obscurate people of the party who could have been to don't intervene against Milosevic but not more and I say that but I don't know anyone, anyway there is surely people like that in all french parties, like in all parties all over the world.

This party, PS, is just fully lost in the globalization to me and he offers a poor very bad show and impeach a real and constructive opposition which could permit the France to go on by the cooperation and the compromise with the main political forces and which could permit to give more credit to politics in general.

Until now, lot of french thought they could live in a sort of "permanent revolution", "first we fight, then we speack". So until now, french political parties confronted themselves, each one with its truth and the none electec said "no" to all what the elected proposed on practically all subjects and all law except some very very important subjects which easily made general agreement.

All of this is currently changing in France now, this country is coming in the XXIst century globalization, more than ever.

[afleitch]

Why do French rail workers go on strike so much?

The unions that represent rail workers in France are controlled by Communists (CGT) and various other forms of hard-leftist, including (last time I checked) Trots.

Mind you, do they actually go on strike more than the RMT does on the tube these days? Serious question actually.

It's worse on the Glasgow Subway as the system is still 'state' run. You can't get them to work after 6pm on Sunday if theres a special event without a strike before hand

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The scums are at it again, after a tragic accident (collision with police car) which killed 2 youths (although their motorcycle had no headlights nor did they wear helmets), the scums of the suburbs (this time in Villiers-le-Bel, in Val-d'Oise) are burning libraries, schools (which shows these scum's lack of culture), cars, they're looting. And apparently they're using dangerous weapons against the police- hunting rifles among others. Around 80 policemen wounded in the incidents, a few by gun fire. I guess the deputy for the city won't care too much as he is none other than DSK who's got better things to do right now. Apparently it's also spread to other suburbs and also Toulouse where they also burned a library. Assholes.

These scums and such incidents make me pissed off. If I lived in the city, I'd be even more angry.

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Having a massive show of force in Villiers le Bel forced the idiots to stay home and it quickly solved the violence. And Sarkozy's response was much acclaimed, even by the perpetual whiners. And Arnaud Montebourg didn't have anything to say!!!

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The stupid baby Bayrou founded his new useless party with his 3/4 deputies this weekend. Related to him, Royal said she proposed to him to become PM if she'd won. Scary thought. A novice useless politician as President and a baby and worse Min. of Edu. ever as PM.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

I would like to give some precisions about what happened in France.

First, I also can't bear what happened in poor Parisian suburbs, these silly stupid burnings of library, schools, cars and all the rest.

On the other hand, I would add that France harvests what it seeded. 40 years ago France has made come a lot of immigrants from its old colonies (most of them from North Africa and Western Africa) but also from her territories in the French Antilles. They came to build the new infrastructure of France and to work in big French factories. France has put all these peoples in closed ghettos which formed suburbs of the cities without taking care neither of the peoples nor of the infrastructure of these ghettos and it never tried to make these immigrants come in the French community of the French republic (France has the tradition of a unified country where the French community of the French republic is more important than the small different communities, even if it is less and less). These immigrants didn't complain about what they lived, they worked and asked nothing, but, they made some children and these children grew. First, the children did not complain about what they lived, or not more than the other categories of the French population, but they were rejected from the rest of the French population. Just cause of their name, the color of their skin or of where they lived they couldn't have a job, have their own home outside of the ghetto suburbs or even enter in night clubs. More of that their parents did not speak and read French language or not really good and the schools, which were more of that ghetto schools with not many financial means, told them to educate their children without their traditional methods of authority, so the parents were lost and so was the education of their children. Here we are, with uneducated young peoples, who saw that nobody took care about their parents and who feel that nobody want of them.

For sure I don't excuse and I blame all the ones who burned the slightest public dustbin. I consider that all these burnings (from the dustbin to the library) and these violent acts (shooting on the police) are so bad and so stupid and have all to be repressed with the good proportions, from lightly for the bins to hardly for the shootings.

But also for sure, we have to take care about these suburbs and to consider the peoples who live in, they merit respect and to be treated as all the other ones. If the French Republic doesn't want to do it, riots will start again, again and again, and always more violent, is that what France and French peoples want?

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Concerning Bayrou, I like the vision of the society he has.

Unluckily, I consider he had a bad strategy to reach the power and so, he fell down. More of that he is closing his-self in a sort of full alone strategy where he seems to consider that he is a sort of "chosen" who will win at the end no matter the reality.

Well, let us see, but I currently think that the most probable is that the reality will win on him.

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Concerning Bayrou, I like the vision of the society he has.

Unluckily, I consider he had a bad strategy to reach the power and so, he fell down. More of that he is closing his-self in a sort of full alone strategy where he seems to consider that he is a sort of "chosen" who will win at the end no matter the reality.

Well, let us see, but I currently think that the most probable is that the reality will win on him.

Bayrou had an actual program/vision? News to me, since every time I saw him he was complaining or whining about the UMP/PS.

If he's elected President, then I'd give up my French nationality.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Concerning Bayrou, I like the vision of the society he has.

Unluckily, I consider he had a bad strategy to reach the power and so, he fell down. More of that he is closing his-self in a sort of full alone strategy where he seems to consider that he is a sort of "chosen" who will win at the end no matter the reality.

Well, let us see, but I currently think that the most probable is that the reality will win on him.

Bayrou had an actual program/vision? News to me, since every time I saw him he was complaining or whining about the UMP/PS.

If he's elected President, then I'd give up my French nationality.

I like the values he does the promotion, he has some and he try to build a vision with it, he tries to do the promotion of putting his values in the actual society.

He was also the first to say publicly in France that now, left, right, all of this is quite dead and has to be redefine.

That's what I meant when I spoke about his vision.

Unluckily, like I said, I consider that he is too bad in political strategy and that he doesn't make the good choices to lead his ideas to the power.

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Every time I see him, he's whining and complaining.

Get a platform and I'll vote for him.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

You can't say he's always whining and complaining, it's just not true.

He just speaks with a sort of energy of despair.

There is a point on the one we can agree. It's that I also like when Montebourg or any Peillon just don't speak.

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You can't say he's always whining and complaining, it's just not true.

He just speaks with a sort of energy of despair.

There is a point on the one we can agree. It's that I also like when Montebourg or any Peillon just don't speak.

It's not me, every time he's on TV he's complaining about something. Blame the TV if you want.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

I find that some of his complains about the actual society and the French political system are legitimate.

Like I say from the beginning, where we can blame him it is on its bad political strategy which makes that he can't lead his ideas to the power to rule these complains, so yes, if he continues in this way he's condemned to complain, but it doesn't impeach his complains to be legitimate.

That's what I'm fed up with, I consider that he has good points of view but, to me, he doesn't make the right choices of political strategy to make them real.

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The Nouveau Centre-PSLE is a smarter centrist alternative in what I'm concerned.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

The Nouveau Centre-PSLE is a smarter centrist alternative in what I'm concerned.

Please, don't say this party is an alternative, it's a fair sarkozist party, nothing else. They can oppose them on quite nothing with UMP, they haven't any political thought, they are not alone in this case, but it's not a reason to blame the ones, like Bayrou who try to have one.

What I can recognize to the "Nouveau Centre" is that they adopted a strategy which in theory permit to lead some ideas to the power, but to do it, ideas are needed.

To be more clear, I think they should have create a wing of the UMP, in the UMP, it would have been more honest.

[Verily]

The Nouveau Centre-PSLE is a smarter centrist alternative in what I'm concerned.

The whole point of NC was a bunch of politicians who wanted to get reelected, not any sort of actual ideology. There just more UMPers.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Welcome in France!

Country of "le bon vivre" (the good life)! Peacefull and original part of the world, earth of cheeses, wines and other traditional good food, country of fashion and perfumes...

Oho! Wake up! We are in 2007!

Now! Bye bye clichés! A new time begins! With new methods! New ideas! New perspectives!

France was quietly sleeping in its quiet part of the world, saying the others: "Go on your way, let us be ourselves please". But French peoples were fed up with being themselves, they wanted money, they wanted security, they wanted to go fully in the globalization, they wanted... SARKOZY!!! And they got him.

As I said, now, "bye bye clichés". And it works for all clichés. You know, I forgot one, you know what I mean? That's it: France! The country of "Les droits de l'Homme" (translation: "Human Rights")!

Yes, this one too is down. Ok, we all knew that not any country can really respect "Human Rights", including France. But France was the country in which these rights were born and was still even a sort of reference in the current world, at least officially.

Why do I say "was"? Cause it seems that Sarkozy ended it today, or at least put a serious shot in these old principles which didn't need it.

Yesterday, Kadhafi (leader of Lybia, dictator for 37 years, ancient hard-terrorist, currently justifying Islamic terrorism in speeches, ancient taker of hostages) began a 5 days visit in France, invited by Sarkozy.

That France says that Kadhafi is better, or tries to be better, than before and that we have to receive him to encourage him to go on the way of "Human Rights" when it's just to make some trade with him, it hurts a little bit the image of the country and of the "Human Rights", but I can acknowledge that it's just some real politics like do all the states around the world, even if I don't like it.

But today Kadhafi was received with honors in the "Assemblée Nationale", official home of French democracy (could be like the Congress in USA to compare). Opposition opposed (but as it always does, we no more know when it opposes for good or bad reasons), the people of the government who is in charge of "Human Rights", Rama Yade, said in a newspaper that she opposes too but after having been at Sarkozy's office her position is more fair and the large majority of the UMPers (members of Sarkozy's party) tries to turn sentences in every direction to say us that there is totally no problem with it, that it's normal! Luckily some of the UMPers, but a few, kept their honor by saying that Khadafi had nothing to do in this home.

Nothing forced Sarkozy to do it (maybe unless a Kadhafi's blackmail for trade), to add to hypocrisy the insult in the principles of "Human Rights", so the insult in democracy and in republic.

Democracy and republic do not need such things to be some more and more famous pornstars, don't you think so?

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Maxime Gremetz out of the Amiens race. A poll showed Robien winning by the first round again.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Maxime Gremetz out of the Amiens race. A poll showed Robien winning by the first round again.

Wow! A old one could let his place to a... old one?

Clearly, even if Gremetz is a communist, he's a particular one, he seems to be a better politician than Robien, especially for mayor.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

A question to peoples who don't live in France:

Is it spoken about the new girl-friend of Sarkozy in your medias?

Thank you

[Silent Hunter]

A question to peoples who don't live in France:

Is it spoken about the new girl-friend of Sarkozy in your medias?

Thank you

Yep, complete with picture of her in a near see-through swimsuit (the ability of the UK press for gratuitous pictures of women in revealing outfits is legendary).