Australia General Discussion

[RogueBeaver]

Rudd will quit as leader when he loses.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I think Rudd will have to stay on for a year or 18 months after a loss. Especially since I expect a very narrow Coalition victory and the Greens keeping the BoP in the Senate now, they can't change horses that soon.

I think Rudd can legitimately hold on after a small loss, considering what the expected outcome was a week ago.

[Mr. Morden]

What if Labor actually *wins* the election?  I assume that Abbott is then toast as Liberal leader?

[Platypus]

I'd say so.

[Peter the Lefty]

Greg Combet is retiring from politics altogether:

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1783804/Greg-Combet-to-retire-from-politics

Quite sad to hear.  He was one of my favorite members of the cabinet.

[Peter the Lefty]

At least it's nice to see that Rudd's cabinet seems markedly more left-wing than Gillard's.

[Knives]

I don't care who wins the election, if Sophie Mirabella lost, I'd be happy forever.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

What if Labor actually *wins* the election?  I assume that Abbott is then toast as Liberal leader?

Without question, he'll step down on the night.

[morgieb]

I don't care who wins the election, if Sophie Mirabella lost, I'd be happy forever.

No chance.

[Хahar 🤔]

If Labor were to win 76 seats and Abbott did step down, who might replace him?

[Mr. Morden]

If Labor were to win 76 seats and Abbott did step down, who might replace him?

I would guess Joe Hockey or Malcolm Turnbull.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

If Labor were to win 76 seats and Abbott did step down, who might replace him?

I would guess Joe Hockey or Malcolm Turnbull.

It's difficult to tell... but yeah, I'd say they're the top chances, it still wouldn't shock me to see Julie Bishop have a crack after being deputy to three leaders in a row.

[Platypus]

Depends who is in the caucus. I think there's a solid 40% of the Liberals who would prefer anyone to Turnbull, about the same number who support him, and then the rest would support him if no other strong candidate was put forward - and Hockey isn't strong enough.

The problem is, I don't see anyone other than those two and maybe at a stretch Julie Bishop being real possibilities.

I'd say Abbott stays on if it's hung, but is challenged by Turnbull. If he loses and it's close, Bishop or Hockey take over; if he loses and it's a big loss, Turnbull has another crack.

All based on basically nothing though

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I really don't see Abbott staying on unless he forms government...

[Leftbehind]

At least it's nice to see that Rudd's cabinet seems markedly more left-wing than Gillard's.

This surprises me - that's not the feeling I was getting from Rudd's leadership at all? He seemed firmly on the Blairite centrist vote - not the left's man.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

At least it's nice to see that Rudd's cabinet seems markedly more left-wing than Gillard's.

This surprises me - that's not the feeling I was getting from Rudd's leadership at all? He seemed firmly on the Blairite centrist vote - not the left's man.

To be fair, it was the left that was loyal to him in 2010...

[Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends]

Incoming Foreign Minister Julie Bishop cutting back on travel expenses:
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bishop-cancels-first-class-tickets-to-new-york-20130913-2tq8p.html

All I can say is YES!

[Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends]

Here's Abbott's new ministry:

Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure and Regional Development - Warren Truss

Treasurer - Joe Hockey

Foreign Minister - Julie Bishop

Employment, Minister assisting the Prime Minister on the Public Service - Eric Abetz

Attorney-General, Arts - George Brandis

Finance - Mathias Cormann

Communications - Malcolm Turnbull

Indigenous Affairs - Nigel Scullion

Industry - Ian Macfarlane

Social Services - Kevin Andrews

Small Business - Bruce Billson

Trade and Investment - Andrew Robb

Health, Sport - Peter Dutton

Education - Christopher Pyne

Agriculture - Barnaby Joyce

Defence - David Johnston

Immigration and Border Protection - Scott Morrison

Environment - Greg Hunt

Disabilities and Aged Care - Mitch Fifield

Human Services - Marise Payne

Assistant Minister for Health - Fiona Nash

Assistant Minister for Immigration and Border Protection as well as Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Women - Michaelia Cash

Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister - Josh Frydenberg

Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Communications - Paul Fletcher

Chief Whip - Phillip Ruddock

Speaker - Bronwyn Bishop

[Hash]

Yeah Tony Abbott isn't a misogynist .

[Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends]

Yeah Tony Abbott isn't a misogynist .

Um, there are four women in the ministry, five including the Speaker. I think Mr. Abbott chose his ministry on merit, not on filling any quotas. And would a misogynist really choose a female as deputy party leader?

[Knives]

hmmm dont exactly think kevin andrews is qualified but whatevvs..

[Joe Republic]

Nobody for Science.  Can't say anybody should be surprised, really.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

That's more Nats than women, right?

And would a misogynist really choose a female as deputy party leader?

Of course.

[RogueBeaver]

AEC hopes to declare Indi by Thursday, but that's just a formality.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

That's more Nats than women, right?

And would a misogynist really choose a female as deputy party leader?

Of course.

Appointing a female deputy doesn't matter at all if she has no chance of becoming more than a placeholder until the party selects the next male leader if something unexpected should happen to the leader.