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« Reply #975 on: September 16, 2013, 11:35:46 PM »


Gotta love those meaningless 'gestures' - reduction from First to Business probably lowers the cost from about $10k to $8k... it's good for the cheap seats through - hence their victory.

And Bishop will NEVER be leader ... if it was about merit and effectiveness - why isn't Kelly O'Dwyer at least a Parli Sec? You're telling me there wasn't ANY female talent in the junior pool worthy of elevation to Cabinet? Give me a break.

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« Reply #976 on: September 17, 2013, 07:21:26 AM »
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Gotta love those meaningless 'gestures' - reduction from First to Business probably lowers the cost from about $10k to $8k... it's good for the cheap seats through - hence their victory.

And Bishop will NEVER be leader ... if it was about merit and effectiveness - why isn't Kelly O'Dwyer at least a Parli Sec? You're telling me there wasn't ANY female talent in the junior pool worthy of elevation to Cabinet? Give me a break.



I was surprised O'Dwyer wasn't promoted, she ought to be, it was probably more about her faction (O'Dwyer being a wet, and this is coming from a dry) than her gender. While I do approve the cut from First to Business Class, they should have gone one step further to Economy Class.
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« Reply #977 on: September 17, 2013, 05:19:03 PM »

Victorian Labor back in front with Newspoll.

41 (-2) - 38 (+3) - 13 (+1) to the Coalition, making for 51-49 to the ALP on 2PP.

Napthine approval - 53 (nc)/31 (+5)
Andrews approval - 38 (+3)/32 (-2)

Preferred Premier 47/25 to Napthine (-2/-1).
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« Reply #978 on: September 17, 2013, 07:45:07 PM »

Tony Abbott is now Australia's 28th Prime Minister. Cool Rest of the Cabinet will be sworn in starting about 15 min from now, and Mirabella has just conceded.
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« Reply #979 on: September 17, 2013, 08:31:58 PM »

Tony Abbott is now Australia's 28th Prime Minister. Cool Rest of the Cabinet will be sworn in starting about 15 min from now, and Mirabella has just conceded.

One nugget of good news in that pile.
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« Reply #980 on: September 17, 2013, 09:11:02 PM »

Abbott didn't choose Julie Bishop as his deputy, she was the deputy under Turnbull and when the Turnbull coup happened it was agreed that she would hold the deputy's position unchallenged to placate the Western Australians, who were sick of all the leader options being from the suburbs of Sydney.

Abbott-Turnbull-Nelson-Howard all having essentially neighbouring seats is not unnoticed within the party. Add in Hockey and the trend is even clearer - Bennelong, North Sydney, Bradfield, Warringah, Wentworth.

All we need now is for Labor to go with Albanese and Plibersek and Sydney's dominance will be absolute Tongue
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« Reply #981 on: September 17, 2013, 09:21:04 PM »

Abbott didn't choose Julie Bishop as his deputy, she was the deputy under Turnbull and when the Turnbull coup happened it was agreed that she would hold the deputy's position unchallenged to placate the Western Australians, who were sick of all the leader options being from the suburbs of Sydney.

Abbott-Turnbull-Nelson-Howard all having essentially neighbouring seats is not unnoticed within the party. Add in Hockey and the trend is even clearer - Bennelong, North Sydney, Bradfield, Warringah, Wentworth.

All we need now is for Labor to go with Albanese and Plibersek and Sydney's dominance will be absolute Tongue

Huzzah!!!
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« Reply #982 on: September 17, 2013, 09:26:59 PM »

I'm just pleased that Bishop's a capable econodry, especially on IR (though that'll have to wait for the next Coalition cycle). Hopefully more young econodry stars emerge in the Abbott era. One can never have a deep enough leadership bench so far as I'm concerned.
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« Reply #983 on: September 17, 2013, 09:33:58 PM »

I'm just pleased that Bishop's a capable econodry, especially on IR (though that'll have to wait for the next Coalition cycle). Hopefully more young econodry stars emerge in the Abbott era. One can never have a deep enough leadership bench so far as I'm concerned.

and I look forward to another fight on IR with the econodries...  Tongue
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« Reply #984 on: September 17, 2013, 09:46:47 PM »

Alas, that's eons away. For now all focus will be on BEEB: boats, economy, energy, budget.
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« Reply #985 on: September 17, 2013, 09:47:54 PM »

Forgive my ignorance, but what is an "econodry"?  I tried googling "Julie Bishop econodry", but all it gave me were links to Atlas posts by RogueBeaver.  Tongue
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« Reply #986 on: September 17, 2013, 09:52:10 PM »

Someone who's economically dry, or fiscally conservative.

On a more solemn note, Keating's eulogy for the Unknown Soldier will be cast in bronze at the War Memorial.
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« Reply #987 on: September 17, 2013, 11:25:24 PM »

Forgive my ignorance, but what is an "econodry"?  I tried googling "Julie Bishop econodry", but all it gave me were links to Atlas posts by RogueBeaver.  Tongue


To add to what RogueBeaver said, the opposite of a dry is, predictably, a wet. The terms first came in use in 1980s Britain, coined by the late, great Margaret Thatcher herself to refer to the division in the UK Conservative Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wets_and_dries

The terms are used to a lesser degree in Australia and Canada, and probably New Zealand as well.


While Paul Keating isn't one of my favourite PMs, that speech is easily one of the best I've read from an Australian PM.
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« Reply #988 on: September 18, 2013, 01:00:50 AM »

Forgive my ignorance, but what is an "econodry"?  I tried googling "Julie Bishop econodry", but all it gave me were links to Atlas posts by RogueBeaver.  Tongue


Econ-O-Dry is a line of coin operated laundry dryers, usually found pained with Econ-O-Wash coin operated washing machines.
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« Reply #989 on: September 18, 2013, 04:31:08 AM »

Tony Abbott is the Minister for Women....


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/18/tony-abbott-womens-minister-portfolio
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« Reply #990 on: September 18, 2013, 05:06:28 AM »

And this just gets better...
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« Reply #991 on: September 18, 2013, 05:11:34 AM »

Forgive my ignorance, but what is an "econodry"?  I tried googling "Julie Bishop econodry", but all it gave me were links to Atlas posts by RogueBeaver.  Tongue


An hardliner. A left-winger could say they are dry because all compassion dried up and became paws for expanding neoliberalism and destroy the social net, but it would be a bit exagerated.
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« Reply #992 on: September 18, 2013, 06:15:28 PM »

ACT is moving to enact SSM by year's end, Macklin backs Albo, Gillard and the history wars.
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« Reply #993 on: September 18, 2013, 06:34:49 PM »


We'll have all seen it, but it's always nice to rewatch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOPsxpMzYw4
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« Reply #994 on: September 18, 2013, 08:34:00 PM »

Another unsurprising vote for Shorten: Howes.
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« Reply #995 on: September 18, 2013, 08:45:06 PM »

Forgive my ignorance, but what is an "econodry"?  I tried googling "Julie Bishop econodry", but all it gave me were links to Atlas posts by RogueBeaver.  Tongue


An hardliner. A left-winger could say they are dry because all compassion dried up and became paws for expanding neoliberalism and destroy the social net, but it would be a bit exagerated.

When maxQue write "an hardliner" I picture Jean Chretien saying it.
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« Reply #996 on: September 18, 2013, 08:49:19 PM »

Speaking of Howes, am I the only one who finds it amusing that a key player in Rudd's overthrow claims he won't run for that NSW Senate seat because of potential divisiveness? He's still got plenty of time, especially if the House is his real goal.
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« Reply #997 on: September 21, 2013, 09:55:17 AM »

By-election in the NSW state seat of Miranda on October 19. Obviously Labor won't win, bit it will be interesting to see the swing, particularly as incumbent member Annesley wants to return to NRL administration.
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« Reply #998 on: September 21, 2013, 10:47:23 AM »

The swings in Sydney in 2011 were totally hysterical, that seat is nowhere near a natural 20%+ seat. It'll come down to how much anti-Labor venom remains. If there's still a bit, the swing could be -4-7% but I can see -10%+ pretty easily.
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« Reply #999 on: September 21, 2013, 11:01:56 AM »

Natural Liberal area and all that, but it was a Labor seat from 1999 until the Great Electoral Awfulness.
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