Australia General Discussion

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Statement from Bishop

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Well, that's an emphatic endorsement isn't it?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I feel this is appropriate.

[Barnes]

I feel this is appropriate.

I saw that earlier and died laughing.

Yes, I'm sure Julia is having quite a nice weekend now.

[Platypus]

Statement from Bishop

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Well, that's an emphatic endorsement isn't it?

"I am telling literally everyone who has the ability to turf him to turf him, but he has put words in my mouth so in public I need to be a loyal deputy. Which is why for the next three days I have laryngitis and will stay at home to call text my collegues to ensure they do not support the current leadership."

[Barnes]

Statement from Bishop

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Well, that's an emphatic endorsement isn't it?

"I am telling literally everyone who has the ability to turf him to turf him, but he has put words in my mouth so in public I need to be a loyal deputy. Which is why for the next three days I have laryngitis and will stay at home to call text my collegues to ensure they do not support the current leadership."

We saw how effective some nicely timed dental surgery was for John Major in 1990!

[BaconBacon96]

Well looks like Bishop ain't running. Turnbull on the other hand ain't denying anything.

The question is, can they get the numbers for the spill motion? I'm not convinced they have them yet.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Well looks like Bishop ain't running. Turnbull on the other hand ain't denying anything.

The question is, can they get the numbers for the spill motion? I'm not convinced they have them yet.

I don't think the numbers are there for a spill, without a challenger. Should Turnbull stand up and say he's going to have a run, I think the numbers could swing. Momentum is a big deal.

The Gillard coup was not a wide-ranging conspiracy. It was maybe 10 people driving it, but once there was a direction and a path to follow, there was a domino effect.

[Lurker]

Overthrowing party leaders seem to be extremely easy, and unusually common, in the Australian system. Have their ever been any proposals to reform the rules (i.e., requring a full conference, party members vote, or simillar, rather than jut a majority of MPs)?.

[BaconBacon96]

Overthrowing party leaders seem to be extremely easy, and unusually common, in the Australian system. Have their ever been any proposals to reform the rules (i.e., requring a full conference, party members vote, or simillar, rather than jut a majority of MPs)?.

Party members voting is now the policy of the Australian Labor Party, although MPs have weighted votes so they still have influence. It takes a month or so for the whole process.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Suggestions that the party meeting might be brought forward to Monday, to avoid an especially embarrassing Question Time. 

[BaconBacon96]

Suggestions that the party meeting might be brought forward to Monday, to avoid an especially embarrassing Question Time. 

Wouldn't that reduce the time the dissidents have to lobby MPs and Senators to vote for the spill though? Perhaps that's the idea.

[morgieb]

Interesting - ReachTEL are saying 55/45 Shorten, but also 51/49 Bishop and 54/46 Turnbull.

[Mr. Morden]

Overthrowing party leaders seem to be extremely easy, and unusually common, in the Australian system. Have their ever been any proposals to reform the rules (i.e., requring a full conference, party members vote, or simillar, rather than jut a majority of MPs)?.

Labor reformed their rules around the time of the last election, so that it's much harder to depose a leader, and the choice is made with input by the wider party membership now.  But the Liberals are still using the same old system, where basically any MP can call a leadership vote at any time for any reason.

[You kip if you want to...]

Interesting - ReachTEL are saying 55/45 Shorten, but also 51/49 Bishop and 54/46 Turnbull.

Hypotheticals, Kevin Rudd, etcetc. But these numbers should move some wavers against Tone.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Remarkable amount of leaking re: Abbott v Bishop. If Abbott holds on, which really is a crap-shoot at this point... it's clear their relationship has completely broken down.

[Barnes]

Are there any specifics on the time of the party room? Has it been moved up ahead of Question Time?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Are there any specifics on the time of the party room? Has it been moved up ahead of Question Time?

There's been no indication that the meeting will be changed. I wouldn't be surprised if Abbott tries to use Question Time on Monday as some kind of final rallying call.

I think a lot of this is down to what Turnbull does this weekend.

[Barnes]

If that's the case, I'll have to make sure and catch QT on Monday. Should be more farcical than usual!

[Barnes]

The LNP party room is meeting in Queensland now to elect a leader and deputy.

[BaconBacon96]

Does anyone know what time on Tuesday the meeting is scheduled?

[Barnes]

Supporters of Turnbull saying he will challenge Abbott - The Canberra Times

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[BaconBacon96]

Sky News reporting that Lawrence Springborg has been elected Leader of the Queensland LNP (again).

[Barnes]

Yeah, Springborg's been elected Leader and John-Paul Langbroek has been elected Deputy Leader.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Sky News reporting that Lawrence Springborg has been elected Leader of the Queensland LNP (again).

The N has certainly started to re-assert it's authority over the LNP

[morgieb]

lolololoololollol.

Talk about going back to the future.