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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« on: August 04, 2004, 11:26:50 PM »
« edited: August 04, 2004, 11:33:00 PM by Better Red Than Dead »

OK, let's say in the future there's a civil war, and the country is split up into many smaller ones. This is a map:



The rulers of the new nations are:

Northwest - StevenNick
Southwest - Brambila
Midwest (all the red from Michigan to the Dakotas and Nebaraska) - BRTD
Indiana and Kentucky (ignore the fact that Kentucky borders Missouri with the same color) - bandit73
Southcentral (gray area from Texas to Missouri) - jmfcst
Southeast (red from Florida to Tennessee) - StatesRights
blue from Ohio to NC - Josh22
DC, Maryland and Delaware - RightWingNut
Pennsylvania and NJ - Keystone Phil
Northeast - migrendel

since there was just a civil war, it is VERY unstable. So what happens now?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2004, 11:54:46 PM »

Certainly Rightwingnut wouldn't last long as leader of MD and DC!

I'd organize a coup against him and then try to reunite us with New England.

You'd have to get through Keystone Phil's area though. that's a messy war.
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BRTD
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2004, 11:56:03 PM »

You swapped me out and Brambila in.

I guess what happens is that I lead the Camp Pendelton Marines to victory in a revolt against Brambila's government.

I figured he'd be more interesting. But let's say he gets annoyed you aren't taking enough action socially, so he has a coup.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2004, 11:57:31 PM »

I think a new war would break out in the middle of the nation.

The Kentucky/Tennessee border would be pretty bloody, border skirmishes between bandit and States' forces all the time. Same with the border between me and jmfcst. Me and bandit would probably ally...
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BRTD
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2004, 12:04:59 AM »

Migrendel might give you some support. North NJ would be insanely militarized, so would NYC. Probably would have troops on every street corner.
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BRTD
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2004, 12:42:28 AM »
« Edited: August 05, 2004, 12:43:54 AM by Better Red Than Dead »

Pennsylvania and NJ become new nations and I'm the leader. Interesting. I'll admit my views would not be very favorable in most of Philadelphia however Northeast Philly would accept my views. My guess is that Philadelphia divides with NE Philly still part of the PA - NJ nation and the rest of Philadelphia independent.

no, you'd just have more difficulty occupying Philly, although it would no doubt spawn lots of guerillas if NickG's forces came around. I can already see Handzus the rebel leader.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2004, 12:47:00 AM »
« Edited: August 05, 2004, 12:49:58 AM by Better Red Than Dead »

I wonder what would happen if you captured him? execute him the same way Stalin executed rebels? that sounds more along the lines of StatesRights or Brambila though.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2004, 12:53:34 AM »

with the way you two fight if you captured him you'd probably execute him the same way Stalin executed rebels.

Execution, BRTD? Alittle extreme don't you think?

well if we're talking about rebels who knows. But I edited it because even if you would execute people I don't see using the Stalin method.

for the record he would hang them, but instead of a noose stick a hook in the back of their necks, which would usually take around 3 hours. Most of them were Nazi sympathizers though.
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BRTD
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2004, 12:53:58 AM »
« Edited: August 05, 2004, 12:55:03 AM by Better Red Than Dead »

no one is reading my posts.. oh well, i'm having fun Cheesy

I am.

I don't really see RWN siding with migrendel though, and in fact his government would probably collapse very quickly due to how laissez-faire it would be.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2004, 12:55:30 AM »
« Edited: August 05, 2004, 12:56:44 AM by Better Red Than Dead »


see edit.

btw, by controlling ND, I control most of the country's nukes Cheesy

of course I'd dispose of most of them, considering my ideology.

i'm also wondering what Tweed would do. Go up into upstate NY and then try to sneak into Phil's nation?
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2004, 12:59:28 AM »

you know there isn't really anywhere Tweed would be happy. Closest is probably RWN's nation.
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BRTD
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2004, 01:12:27 AM »

I kind of wonder what Lunar would do. nclib would probably be leading partisan raids against Josh's government.
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2004, 01:11:57 PM »

....well darn, I guess I'm not involved in this at all . . . I suppose I'm statesright's left hand man or something

I can see you leading the resistance against him.
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BRTD
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2004, 07:11:07 PM »

The Mid-west election

This is the first election after the war. BRTD is the likely candidate to win. He is running on the Red Party. The Red party is a left wing party, who wants to stop all war. And destroy all nukes they have.

There is another candidate too, PBrunsel. He is running on the Hoover Party. The HP is a right wing party who wants to join the West and make one big nation. And keep the nukes.

BRTD was head by a lot when the election started. But it quickly went down, after people found out how he stood on issues.

With two days until the election, the polls show that 51% of the nation wants BRTD and 48% wants PBrunsel.

And this is the out come of the election...

Green- PBrunsel(Hoover party)
Dark Red- Better Red Then Dead (Red Party)

Map--


any nation set up by me would not use the Electoral College.
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BRTD
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2004, 07:42:00 PM »
« Edited: August 05, 2004, 07:43:45 PM by Better Red Than Dead »

Also if the West continued their aggression to us and the Hoover Party supported them I'd ban them as a terrorist front.

But I'd probably use some parlimentary system. So parliment would have 101 seats except third parties would draw more. As it is my party would most likely win and Texasgurl would be Prime Minister.
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BRTD
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Posts: 113,030
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2004, 07:51:34 PM »

here's a breakdown of the parlimentary elections:

Reds - 45% (46 seats)
Hoover Party - 37% (37 seats)
Foundation of Democracy - 16% (16 seats)
United Workers - 2% (2 seats)

The Foundation of Democracy is a center-center right party which supports our sovereignty and opposes Western agression but is opposed to most of my far left economic policies.

The United Workers are a fringe left faction who want unleash our nuclear arsenal on the west and south.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,030
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2004, 10:23:06 PM »

I would probably be a far left member of the Foundation of Democracy, or form my own party.

Smiley

I'd appoint you governor of Minnesota.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,030
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2004, 11:20:23 PM »

Why am I still listed as the leader of the Keystone Republic? I thought there was an "incident" that ended my leadership.

I think Josh and I are running parallel timelines...mine just started, his is much more advanced.

Oh, ok. Well hey atleast I'm still a leader...and alive. Smiley

despite numerous assasination attempts, and repeated attacks on government and military installations by Marxist insurgents which intelligence later discovers is receiving funds and weapons from The United Socialist States of the Midwest... Smiley
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,030
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2004, 11:23:04 PM »

Handzus is a modern day Che Guevera.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,030
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2004, 02:23:25 AM »

Pennsylvania and NJ become new nations and I'm the leader. Interesting. I'll admit my views would not be very favorable in most of Philadelphia however Northeast Philly would accept my views. My guess is that Philadelphia divides with NE Philly still part of the PA - NJ nation and the rest of Philadelphia independent.

Not if I can help it!

haha, I was right. You'd be the rebel leader. The new Che Guevara. And of course you'd have some bases and training camps based in The United Socialist States of the Midwest.
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BRTD
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Posts: 113,030
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2004, 02:27:52 AM »

I would not try to destroy Harry. I would team with him and invade Bandits nation and have him hung as well as all his goons.

bandit would tell everyone that you would force all schoolkids to wear school uniforms, and they'd put up massive resistance against you.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,030
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2004, 01:26:23 PM »

you can be in my cabinet.
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