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« on: December 27, 2007, 02:03:21 AM »

YAY!  We're 2nd to last now!

[size]U.S. CENSUS, 2007 vs. 2006[/size]

States' Shifting Populations
12/27/07



The growth in the population of several of what have been the fastest-growing U.S. states – Arizona, Florida and Nevada, particular – is slowing as fewer Americans are moving there. The Census Bureau's annual estimate of state population changes cover the 12 months ending July 1, 2007. They also show that people continue fleeing the Midwest -- especially Michigan, one of two states to lose people – and that the Mountain states in the West continue to post large population gains as people arrive from California and elsewhere.   

State    2007 Population    2006 population    Net change    Percentage change  ↑
Nevada  2,565,382  2,492,427  72,955  2.9 
Arizona  6,338,755  6,165,689  173,066  2.8 
Utah  2,645,330  2,579,535  65,795  2.6 
Idaho  1,499,402  1,463,878  35,524  2.4 
North Carolina  9,061,032  8,869,442  191,590  2.2 
Georgia  9,544,750  9,342,080  202,670  2.2 
Texas  23,904,380  23,407,629  496,751  2.1 
Wyoming  522,830  512,757  10,073  2.0 
Colorado  4,861,515  4,766,248  95,267  2.0 
South Carolina  4,407,709  4,330,108  77,601  1.8 
Washington  6,468,424  6,374,910  93,514  1.5 
Oregon  3,747,455  3,691,084  56,371  1.5 
New Mexico  1,969,915  1,942,302  27,613  1.4 
Delaware  864,764  852,747  12,017  1.4 
Tennessee  6,156,719  6,074,913  81,806  1.3 
Montana  957,861  946,795  11,066  1.2 
Louisiana  4,293,204  4,243,288  49,916  1.2 
Oklahoma  3,617,316  3,577,536  39,780  1.1 
Florida  18,251,243  18,057,508  193,735  1.1 
South Dakota  796,214  788,467  7,747  1.0 
United States  301,621,157  298,754,819  2,866,338  1.0 
Virginia  7,712,091  7,640,249  71,842  0.9 
Kentucky  4,241,474  4,204,444  37,030  0.9 
Arkansas  2,834,797  2,809,111  25,686  0.9 
Alaska  683,478  677,450  6,028  0.9 
Minnesota  5,197,621  5,154,586  43,035  0.8 
California  36,553,215  36,249,872  303,343  0.8 
Alabama  4,627,851  4,590,240  37,611  0.8 
Missouri  5,878,415  5,837,639  40,776  0.7 
Mississippi  2,918,785  2,899,112  19,673  0.7 
Kansas  2,775,997  2,755,817  20,180  0.7 
Indiana  6,345,289  6,302,646  42,643  0.7 
Nebraska  1,774,571  1,763,765  10,806  0.6 
Illinois  12,852,548  12,777,042  75,506  0.6 
Wisconsin  5,601,640  5,572,660  28,980  0.5 
Iowa  2,988,046  2,972,566  15,480  0.5 
District of Columbia  588,292  585,459  2,833  0.5 
Puerto Rico  3,941,459  3,925,971  15,488  0.4 
North Dakota  639,715  637,460  2,255  0.4 
Hawaii  1,283,388  1,278,635  4,753  0.4 
New Hampshire  1,315,828  1,311,821  4,007  0.3 
Maryland  5,618,344  5,602,017  16,327  0.3 
West Virginia  1,812,035  1,808,699  3,336  0.2 
Pennsylvania  12,432,792  12,402,817  29,975  0.2 
New Jersey  8,685,920  8,666,075  19,845  0.2 
Massachusetts  6,449,755  6,434,389  15,366  0.2 
Maine  1,317,207  1,314,910  2,297  0.2 
Connecticut  3,502,309  3,495,753  6,556  0.2 
Vermont  621,254  620,778  476  0.1 
New York  19,297,729  19,281,988  15,741  0.1 
Ohio  11,466,917  11,463,513  3,404  0.0 
Michigan  10,071,822  10,102,322  -30,500  -0.3 
Rhode Island  1,057,832  1,061,641  -3,809  -0.4 

Source: U.S. Census Bureau
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2007, 04:12:22 AM »

Yeah, but how many people are digging up their deceased. and moving them out, as is occuring in Detroit?

Oh, and BTW, you need to correct the color coding of New Jersey and Delaware.

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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 04:16:47 AM »

Yeah, but how many people are digging up their deceased. and moving them out, as is occuring in Detroit?

Oh, and BTW, you need to correct the color coding of New Jersey and Delaware.



That's the Wall Street Journal'ssize, not mine.
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2007, 05:05:18 AM »

Yeah, but how many people are digging up their deceased. and moving them out, as is occuring in Detroit?

Oh, and BTW, you need to correct the color coding of New Jersey and Delaware.



That's the Wall Street Journal'ssize, not mine.

Yeah, they make some really stupid mistakes at times.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2007, 09:31:24 AM »

Ok, looking at the map we can see they went south ........why is is this such a shock?
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2007, 03:41:10 PM »

Ok, looking at the map we can see they went south ........why is is this such a shock?

And west. And mostly into Republican states. Actually, looking just at intra-US-migration, 9 of the 10 most popular destinations include Republican states, while 9 of the 10 states where most people "flee" are Democratic states.

Hard to imagine that California grew below 1%. Emigration to other US states outweighed international immigration in 2006-07, while there were 330.000 more Births than Deaths.

Their Dept. of Finance meanwhile estimated the 2006-07 growth at 1.2% ...
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2007, 03:46:32 PM »

Wow...look how New Jersey is growing.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2007, 03:51:51 PM »

Top-10 states for relocating Americans (2006/07):

Texas: + 141.280
North Carolina: + 111.963
Georgia: + 94.004
Arizona: + 90.402
South Carolina: + 53.993
Tennessee: + 48.665
Nevada: + 41.338
Florida: + 35.301
Colorado: + 33.438
Washington: + 31.009

Top-10 states where Americans "fled" from (2006/07):

Rhode Island: - 10.031
Connecticut: - 19.377
Massachusetts: - 35.121
Maryland: - 36.270
Ohio: - 51.842
Illinois: - 60.265
New Jersey: - 69.160
Michigan: - 94.420
New York: - 189.765
California: - 263.035

http://www.census.gov/popest/states/NST-comp-chg.html
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2007, 04:14:57 PM »

The political question thus becomes who are these people that moving. If democrats are moving to republican areas, then more of the country will come up for grabs. If they are republicans fleeing from liberal places, then the democrats will grow isolated. ...but why aren't people like me in the middle of Hicktown, WY moving to Chic, California?
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2007, 07:00:42 PM »

...but why aren't people like me in the middle of Hicktown, WY moving to Chic, California?
Dozens of reasons probably.  Some are lazy, others are poor.  Some don't want to deal with all the hassles of living in Cali.  Some prefer mountains to beaches.  Personally, I'd need my income to go up about 7 or 8 times what it is now before I'd even think about moving there.  I enjoy the fact that I've never been through a serious earthquake or brownout.
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2007, 01:55:45 AM »

Top-10 states where Americans "fled" from (2006/07):

Rhode Island: - 10.031
Connecticut: - 19.377
Massachusetts: - 35.121
Maryland: - 36.270
Ohio: - 51.842
Illinois: - 60.265
New Jersey: - 69.160
Michigan: - 94.420
New York: - 189.765
California: - 263.035

http://www.census.gov/popest/states/NST-comp-chg.html

People are "fleeing" Connecticut because it is extremely expensive to live here. In most towns, you can't get a single family home for under $300,000. There are few condos compared to other states, and almost no zero trailers.

Once kids go away to college, they don't come back to the state.

Glad to see people are moving to other states besides California, Florida and Texas. Those three are getting too big.
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2007, 06:41:26 AM »

Ok, looking at the map we can see they went south ........why is is this such a shock?

And west. And mostly into Republican states. Actually, looking just at intra-US-migration, 9 of the 10 most popular destinations include Republican states, while 9 of the 10 states where most people "flee" are Democratic states.

Hard to imagine that California grew below 1%. Emigration to other US states outweighed international immigration in 2006-07, while there were 330.000 more Births than Deaths.

Their Dept. of Finance meanwhile estimated the 2006-07 growth at 1.2% ...

Its very simple, California has become a high tax/high regulation state, and those seeking a better life are fleeing it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2007, 12:26:29 PM »
« Edited: December 28, 2007, 12:28:51 PM by David S »


Somehow "2nd to last" doesn't seem to have quite the same distinction as Dead-ass last. Wink

As for Michigan our problem is pretty straight-forward: People are leaving because there are not enough new jobs here to replace those lost in the auto industry.

Houses are not selling because there is no one to buy them. There are about 5 in our neighborhood that have been for sale for at least 6 months. Even though the prices are low compared to other states, there just aren't many buyers.
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2007, 02:19:04 PM »

Ok, looking at the map we can see they went south ........why is is this such a shock?

And west. And mostly into Republican states. Actually, looking just at intra-US-migration, 9 of the 10 most popular destinations include Republican states, while 9 of the 10 states where most people "flee" are Democratic states.

Hard to imagine that California grew below 1%. Emigration to other US states outweighed international immigration in 2006-07, while there were 330.000 more Births than Deaths.

Their Dept. of Finance meanwhile estimated the 2006-07 growth at 1.2% ...

Its very simple, California has become a high tax/high regulation state, and those seeking a better cheaper life are fleeing it.
Fixed. For those of us who can afford to live in Cali, life is sweet. I especially love how we're all minorities here.
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2007, 02:54:50 PM »

Ok, looking at the map we can see they went south ........why is is this such a shock?

And west. And mostly into Republican states. Actually, looking just at intra-US-migration, 9 of the 10 most popular destinations include Republican states, while 9 of the 10 states where most people "flee" are Democratic states.

Hard to imagine that California grew below 1%. Emigration to other US states outweighed international immigration in 2006-07, while there were 330.000 more Births than Deaths.

Their Dept. of Finance meanwhile estimated the 2006-07 growth at 1.2% ...

Its very simple, California has become a high tax/high regulation state, and those seeking a better life are fleeing it.

So, as the population increases in those other states, will those states become less attractive?
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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2007, 09:49:59 PM »


Somehow "2nd to last" doesn't seem to have quite the same distinction as Dead-ass last. Wink

As for Michigan our problem is pretty straight-forward: People are leaving because there are not enough new jobs here to replace those lost in the auto industry.

Houses are not selling because there is no one to buy them. There are about 5 in our neighborhood that have been for sale for at least 6 months. Even though the prices are low compared to other states, there just aren't many buyers.

Michiganders have been stupid and  thought we'd be able to lean on the auto industry forever - eventually all cities will wind up like Ecorse and Lincoln Park - where once booming blue collar worker-filled cities are turning into gang ridden slums.  Houses go from great to being stripped of piping to boarded up and condemned (I forget where you live - but all these cities are metro-Detroit).  It's sad - especially Linoln Park (my home town) - I see it going down and the south side of the city is scrambling to stop the degeneration from the north.
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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2007, 10:16:15 PM »


Somehow "2nd to last" doesn't seem to have quite the same distinction as Dead-ass last. Wink

As for Michigan our problem is pretty straight-forward: People are leaving because there are not enough new jobs here to replace those lost in the auto industry.

Houses are not selling because there is no one to buy them. There are about 5 in our neighborhood that have been for sale for at least 6 months. Even though the prices are low compared to other states, there just aren't many buyers.

Michiganders have been stupid and  thought we'd be able to lean on the auto industry forever - eventually all cities will wind up like Ecorse and Lincoln Park - where once booming blue collar worker-filled cities are turning into gang ridden slums.  Houses go from great to being stripped of piping to boarded up and condemned (I forget where you live - but all these cities are metro-Detroit).  It's sad - especially Linoln Park (my home town) - I see it going down and the south side of the city is scrambling to stop the degeneration from the north.

I know in NC we are having the problem of finding places to build the house for the people coming in. Then when we do build the house the school get over populated and have to be more schools to help out. Then they build more house and more people come and the new school get over populated as well.
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