Poll trend on Handgun possession

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Oh Lord.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

The issue that makes so many international people unnerved, even if, like Switzerland you have quite open gun laws, is the utter obsession that people have with this. If a well-armed citizenry made for a safer society, then America would be the safest country in the world... it's not. The over-abundance of guns leads to situations that interested parties can claim their need for them.

Need I point out that all the guns in the massacres, Columbine, V/Tech, all the other school shootings, the Omaha mall shooting were all legally obtained.

The logic of the gun lobby, completely boggles my mind.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

No, it most certianly isnt legal to carry handguns in Australia.

But as far as I'm concerned the two ideas are linked anyway. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Need I point out that all the guns in the massacres, Columbine, V/Tech, all the other school shootings, the Omaha mall shooting were all legally obtained.

You can point it out all you want, but it doesn't make it true.  Cite?

http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/breaking/wb/113294
- Virginia Tech

I'm still hunting for the others, I've heard something about others, so I'm tracking them down.

Although the complete unwillingness to accept that this gun obsession and over abundance doesn't have significant negative consequences is quite staggering.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Like in Switzerland.

No, in Switzerland guns are not treated as sacred.

Yes, the availibility is similar to the US (in fact well beyond), but yet, they don't go bonkers over them.
Also the Swiss laws will change next year when they become part of the Schengen treaty. The Swiss also restrict the degrees to which weapons can be carried outside of homes.

Plus the US has a sizeable military, the circumstances between the US and Switzerland on this key issue is so different that comparisons are pointless. Mind you the 2nd amendment was quite similar to this, mind you it was written before there was a standing Army.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Like in Switzerland.

Mind you the 2nd amendment was quite similar to this, mind you it was written before there was a standing Army.

Excuse me, but, there was indeed a standing army at the time the Second Amendment was adopted, if a rather small one.

Please do not make

Permit me to clarify.

It was written at a time when state militia would have been the first line of defence in the event of invasion.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Sorry, been wrapping presents, and mopping up after leaving a window open during a storm.

I suppose the bottom line of your point is correct.

The US is a "unique" place on many things.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

No, it most certianly isnt legal to carry handguns in Australia.

But as far as I'm concerned the two ideas are linked anyway. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia

Er, that article says it IS legal to own handguns in Australia, just only ones below a certain size.

Own them yes, but not to carry them around.