The world in Constituencies

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France

Good luck drawing China :lol:

[WMS]

There are lots of international political organizations. Elections would work like Euro elections. Parties with the same ideology (Canada NDP, British Labour, Australian Labour, etc; US Republican, Canada+British Tory, Aust Liberal) would run under one banner.

The difficult question is how would parties unite outside EU-US-Canada-Australia.

Aren't the Christian Democrats and Liberal Democrats two big international parties in Latin America? They would seem to have an advantage.

[2952-0-0]

I think there should be 2000 seats. Anyway, let's explore the mind of a world politician:

"Oh dear. I gotta tour Venezuela soon and skip Haiti, and meanwhile I have to finish my crash course in Chinese. Meanwhile my grassroots network in Indonesia is falling apart because of my comment on East Timor. Then I have to investigate the burning of my regional campaign office in Sao Paulo and there's the controversy over placing my Russia office at the Red Square. Phew."

[Blerpiez]

Brazil

In places where states were split up, I didn't know where to put the boundaries between contituencies, so I used straight lines.

[YoMartin]

There are lots of international political organizations. Elections would work like Euro elections. Parties with the same ideology (Canada NDP, British Labour, Australian Labour, etc; US Republican, Canada+British Tory, Aust Liberal) would run under one banner.

The difficult question is how would parties unite outside EU-US-Canada-Australia.

Aren't the Christian Democrats and Liberal Democrats two big international parties in Latin America? They would seem to have an advantage.

Yes, there are some important parties that are members of christian democrat and socialist internationals (liberals not so much), but in many countries parties don´t belong to any. And even some of those who do belong to a international, I don´t think they´d really run under that umbrella. I mean, many of those who belong to democrat international wouldn´t dare to run under a label that includes Republicans in the US... And in Asia, that concentrates most of the seats, I don´t think the political divissions go along the same lines than in the West.

Can we think of a second chamber to avoid being completely dominated by a couple of asian countries that would have almost the plurality of seats by themselves?

[Blerpiez]

Argentina, Chile, and Bolivia


Peru and Ecuador

[ilikeverin]

I think there should be 2000 seats. Anyway, let's explore the mind of a world politician:

"Oh dear. I gotta tour Venezuela soon and skip Haiti, and meanwhile I have to finish my crash course in Chinese. Meanwhile my grassroots network in Indonesia is falling apart because of my comment on East Timor. Then I have to investigate the burning of my regional campaign office in Sao Paulo and there's the controversy over placing my Russia office at the Red Square. Phew."

Wooooooooooo East Timor

[freek]

Yes, there are some important parties that are members of christian democrat and socialist internationals (liberals not so much), but in many countries parties don´t belong to any.

I think this can be compared with elections for the European Parliament. MEPs are elected to the EP for their national party, but in the EP they form fractions with other MEPs, who think alike on most subjects. And that seems to work out pretty fine.

In some groups the cooperation is more intensive than in others, but I don't think that that is a problem.

[Bono]

I think there should be 2000 seats. Anyway, let's explore the mind of a world politician:

"Oh dear. I gotta tour Venezuela soon and skip Haiti, and meanwhile I have to finish my crash course in Chinese. Meanwhile my grassroots network in Indonesia is falling apart because of my comment on East Timor. Then I have to investigate the burning of my regional campaign office in Sao Paulo and there's the controversy over placing my Russia office at the Red Square. Phew."

Wooooooooooo East Timor

What's up with you and East Timor. You seem to have some kind of fixation for it...

[ilikeverin]

I think there should be 2000 seats. Anyway, let's explore the mind of a world politician:

"Oh dear. I gotta tour Venezuela soon and skip Haiti, and meanwhile I have to finish my crash course in Chinese. Meanwhile my grassroots network in Indonesia is falling apart because of my comment on East Timor. Then I have to investigate the burning of my regional campaign office in Sao Paulo and there's the controversy over placing my Russia office at the Red Square. Phew."

Wooooooooooo East Timor

What's up with you and East Timor. You seem to have some kind of fixation for it...

LOL, I dunno.  It's the newest country.

But I'm not entirely sure why I like it so much

I'm also fixed on the Netherlands

[angus]

yet another ing map!



this shows who they like "over there"

thought it might help out

[Beet]

Uruguay would go for Kerry.

[M]

Saudi Arabia probably for Kerry. (I know CP Abdullah backed Bush, but the population is largely Islamists and in these internationalist straw polls Islamists have consistently backed Kerry). Bush would win Cuba. Manitoba and Saskatchewan MIGHT be competitive. Kerry does probably win Uruguay. Bush wins Poland? If so, he probably wins much of Eastern Europe, it wouldn't be an isolated incident. Also, a chance at Italy and Iberia? Certainly wins Iran and Afghanistan, and probably Iraq. Maybe also Japan, Australia, Russian bloc??? And China is a complete unknown. Bush also certainly wins Israel, can't see if you have it on there.

[Horus]

This is really a great idea.

I came up with parties, sort of coalitions. There are eight total, let me know if you think there should be anymore.

Centrist Coalition - In the middle on most issues, tries to find a common balance between left and right ideas.

Conservative & Republican Coalition - Similar to the Republican party here, but perhaps a bit more liberal on social issues. The basic conservative party.

Greens & Agrarians - Far-left party putting Agriculture and the environment as number 1 issues and virtually forgetting about foreign policy.

Liberal & Social Democrats - Similar to the Democratic party here in the US and Labour in the UK. A fairly liberal party that doesn't go too far to the left.

Libertarian Party - There aren't many libertarians, but Libertarianism is growing and I think they could get a few seats in a world congress.

Muslim Alliance - There would have to be an Islamic party. Extremely far to the right on social issuse, I don't know where they'd be economically.

Populists & Christian Democrats - Left-leaning economically, centrist to right-leaning socially. That is on average.

Socialist Coalition - The closest thing left to communism. Virtually all of China would probably support this party.

[Blerpiez]

This is really a great idea.

I came up with parties, sort of coalitions. There are eight total, let me know if you think there should be anymore.

Centrist Coalition - In the middle on most issues, tries to find a common balance between left and right ideas.

Conservative & Republican Coalition - Similar to the Republican party here, but perhaps a bit more liberal on social issues. The basic conservative party.

Greens & Agrarians - Far-left party putting Agriculture and the environment as number 1 issues and virtually forgetting about foreign policy.

Liberal & Social Democrats - Similar to the Democratic party here in the US and Labour in the UK. A fairly liberal party that doesn't go too far to the left.

Libertarian Party - There aren't many libertarians, but Libertarianism is growing and I think they could get a few seats in a world congress.

Muslim Alliance - There would have to be an Islamic party. Extremely far to the right on social issuse, I don't know where they'd be economically.

Populists & Christian Democrats - Left-leaning economically, centrist to right-leaning socially. That is on average.

Socialist Coalition - The closest thing left to communism. Virtually all of China would probably support this party.

I think there would be group who opposed the international government.  This could be a party or only a caucus, but this group would be good-sized

[M]

Depends on how well established the system is. Our own anti-Federalists virtually disappeared within a few years of the ratification.

What basis is there to assume China would vote socialist? Have they done so before ever, in China's 3000 year history? (Answer: no). The current Chinese ideology is nationalist-huge government-capitalist, or some sort of Italo-fascist/corporate state system. But for all we know, most Chinese might vote for something completely different.

[minionofmidas]

Bush would win Cuba.

Keep dreaming.

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...seeing as they've just elected a Socialist President.

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Bush would have semi-decent poll results in Italy and over Eastern Europe, but Poland and Slovakia are the only countries where an actual win is possible.

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No reason to assume that (see what you said about Islamists)

[M]

Bush would win Cuba.

Keep dreaming.

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...seeing as they've just elected a Socialist President.

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Bush would have semi-decent poll results in Italy and over Eastern Europe, but Poland and Slovakia are the only countries where an actual win is possible.

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No reason to assume that (see what you said about Islamists)

The populations of Afghanistan and Iran are extremely hostile to Islamism. Iraq is hard to read, but though many are traditional most seem to be quite hostile to Islamism as well, consistently backing the war, democracy, and US troop presence in polls. Bush wins Cuba by 80+%. On what basis do you come to any other conclusion? Assuming all world govts disappeared Nov 1 and were replaced by a world body that ran Bush against Kerry on the 2nd, Cuba would be overwhelmingly for Bush, the candidate most closely linked with anti-Castroism. Bush likely wins Bulgaria and maybe Romania.

[Platypus]

Bush'd win Russia; and he'd have zilcho chance in AUS, btw.

[Hatman 🍁]

Believe it or not, Kerry would win Alberta. According to polls Kerry was way ahead there. Bush was strongest in Atlantic Canada for some reason, but even there Kerry would have won. (Alberta was 60% Kerry Atlantic Canada around 50%)

[Erc]

Given an actual world government based on these constituencies, the third world would vote itself the resources and capital of the US / Europe / Japan.

World Economic Collapse.  Game Over.


"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."
--Alexander Tyler

[Silent Hunter]

Not much wrong with Timor-Leste. Hope to see the country go places. It may have the lowest per capita GDP in the world, but it's a great sounding name.

[YoMartin]

I actually don´t think Bush would win in Cuba. Miami is different than the island. Kerry would definitely win Uruguay (90%-10% in the polls).

There would definitely be a strong "antiestablishment" party opposed to the new world government, with supporters from the left, the right, minorities claiming oppresion, religious people, everything. I guess the first parties would actually be a consequence of the pro/anti regime cleavage, not left/right. That´s a conflict that comes after the new order is stabilised.

[Hatman 🍁]

bump. Time for redistricting!

I'd like to see a 1000 seat world.

[Хahar 🤔]

Bangladesh looks very good. I'd come up with better names for the boringly-named constituencies, but my mental map is epic fail.

Map of Bangladesh shortly (maybe).